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85-year-old woman may sue TSA after being strip searched at JFK Airport
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS ^ | December 2 2011, 9:36 PM | Nicholas Hirshon

Posted on 12/03/2011 6:45:38 PM PST by Texas Fossil

An 85-year-old Long Island grandmother says she plans to sue the TSA after a humiliating strip search on Tuesday by agents at JFK Airport.

Lenore Zimmerman, who lives in Long Beach, says she was on her way to a 1 p.m. flight to Fort Lauderdale when security whisked her to a private room and took off her clothes.

“I walk with a walker — I really look like a terrorist,” she said sarcastically. “I’m tiny. I weigh 110 pounds, 107 without clothes, and I was strip-searched.”

TSA spokeswoman Lisa Farbstein said a review of closed circuit TV footage from the airport shows “proper procedures were followed.”

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Insanity. Pure Bureaucratic Insanity.

TSA needs a good laxative. Clean them out.

1 posted on 12/03/2011 6:45:50 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Pic of the grandmother and her injury.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.986197.1322897407!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_485/image.jpg


2 posted on 12/03/2011 6:46:57 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

MAY? She should sue the agency and the people involved personally.


3 posted on 12/03/2011 6:47:28 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Texas Fossil

The effin country has gone insane.


4 posted on 12/03/2011 6:48:04 PM PST by frankenMonkey (10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash. Now it's no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash.)
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To: Texas Fossil
TSA--Union thugs all. They deserve to be sued.
5 posted on 12/03/2011 6:49:50 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: frankenMonkey

You’d be amazed at how many nations seem more free to travel around these days... sadly Vietnam comes to mind and we lost many Americans there to keep that nation from turning into what we have now become.


6 posted on 12/03/2011 6:51:19 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: svcw

>>MAY? She should sue the agency and the people involved personally.<<

If she can find a lawyer. I will lay odds that it will never make it past the petition stage. She has to lay out a prima fascie case that some sort of right was violated. Since she wasn’t assaulted and she’s not part of a protected class (and even then most of those lawsuits have gone nowhere).

She may have been embarrassed but no actual harm was done and she probably can’t prove she was anything other than a person selected for cause for deep screening — no worse than if she was, at her age, traveling one-way which is 100% guaranteed extra-extra screening.

Her burden is EXTREMELY heavy/high.

I am not saying the TSA is right (they aren’t) but I am just reading the tea leaves based on cases to date and TSA’s broad mandate.

I travel for a living so keep a pretty close eye on all these TSA events.

I keep saying we should adopt El Al’s security procedure book lock stock and barrel.

I am part of the new “Trusted Traveler” pilot but it is only a little help — I don’t have to take off my shoes nor remove my laptop from the bag. But every little bit helps and that line is REALLY short for now.


7 posted on 12/03/2011 6:57:04 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: freedumb2003

We need a modern age Reagan to fire all the MoFo’s. This republic needs an enema!


8 posted on 12/03/2011 7:01:07 PM PST by glock rocks (Jesus take the wheel, Take it from my hands, cause I can't do this on my own... I'm letting go)
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To: Texas Fossil

We can’t profile, but just so nobody thinks we’re being unfair, we strip-search and occasional great granny for good measure? What a joke.


9 posted on 12/03/2011 7:02:52 PM PST by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Texas Fossil

TSA needs to be undone. abolished.


10 posted on 12/03/2011 7:04:50 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: freedumb2003
A smart candidate would call for disciplinary action against the microcephs that pulled this stunt and their supervisors, and call for that dyke running DHS to make a public apology.

Time to get these degenerates under control, and that starts by slapping those responsible from the top down.

I expect war on the TSA to be front and center of this campaign.

11 posted on 12/03/2011 7:05:28 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Texas Fossil

I’m going to take a wild guess that Gloria Allred is not representing her.


12 posted on 12/03/2011 7:07:42 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Texas Fossil

THe hell of it is - who’s going to take the TSA on?

If a future President were to force them to back down and a terror attack occurred, you know who would get the blame. Very few politicians are going to be willing to take that risk. So we surrender our personal liberty...


13 posted on 12/03/2011 7:12:57 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Texas Fossil
Lisa Farbstein strip searches Lenore Zimmerman on suspicion of being what, an Islamist terrorist?

Can't make this crap up....

14 posted on 12/03/2011 7:13:46 PM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Rome2000
A smart candidate would call for disciplinary action against the microcephs that pulled this stunt and their supervisors, and call for that dyke running DHS to make a public apology.

"Smart" may not be possible. Going against ANY Federal Union is always a political problem. Naming one member could put a candidate in deep legal water.

But it would be great to see.

15 posted on 12/03/2011 7:14:05 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: freedumb2003
She may have been embarrassed but no actual harm was done

Except for the gouge on her leg, but that's her fault.

BTW, If I take a swing at you AND MISS that's assault.

If you do not want me to touch you and I pat you, that's battery.

What would you call it if I took you into a private room and stripped you?

16 posted on 12/03/2011 7:15:11 PM PST by null and void (This is day 1047 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: freedumb2003

You sound rather knowledgeable in this area... if I were to ‘get in line’ and at the last second decide to forfeit my travel plans, could I refuse the strip search and just leave or would the jackboot thugs say ‘too late Jew’? I’ve heard anectodatal reports that once in line you can’t get out without serious legal implications. It really smacks of Naziasm if so. Where the hell did my country go?


17 posted on 12/03/2011 7:15:31 PM PST by theymakemesick
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To: GeronL; All
TSA.....our nightmare security.
18 posted on 12/03/2011 7:15:40 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: freedumb2003

Re: your tagline, after 85 million years, I shouldn’t wonder...


19 posted on 12/03/2011 7:18:04 PM PST by null and void (This is day 1047 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: BIGLOOK

bump


20 posted on 12/03/2011 7:23:58 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: frankenMonkey

The nation needs a cleansing, in the Jeffersonian sense.


21 posted on 12/03/2011 7:29:12 PM PST by fhayek
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To: theymakemesick

>>if I were to ‘get in line’ and at the last second decide to forfeit my travel plans, could I refuse the strip search and just leave or would the jackboot thugs say ‘too late Jew’?<<

Once you pass the guy who checks your ID you are in TSA-controlled area and subject to their whims. You basically have to ask permission to leave.

Thank Political Correctness...


22 posted on 12/03/2011 7:30:01 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: freedumb2003

Thanks, we need to dismantle this abominiation ASAP.


23 posted on 12/03/2011 7:32:34 PM PST by theymakemesick
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To: null and void

>>If you do not want me to touch you and I pat you, that’s battery.<<

Flying is voluntary — you basically give up certain rights when you decide to fly: I an giving you the government’s perspective and what seems to be the legal arguments to date on similar incidents. It is no more battery than if you are detained by a police officer who pats you down even on the tiniest shred of “probable cause” (don’t get me started on that whole issue and the removal of the IVth Amendment).

>>What would you call it if I took you into a private room and stripped you?<<

A few years a go I would have called it a first date ;)


24 posted on 12/03/2011 7:35:09 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: Texas Fossil

I’m telling you, and I’m not racist, but don’t be surprised if the TSA people who did this were Eric Holder’s people.

All I ever see at the airport are blacks and some hispanics hassling and searching the lily white people. They seem to enjoy it. Like payback or something, I don’t know.

It’s ironic. The people who look like the typical terrorists are searching the people who look like the typical terrorist victims. That’s our country folks. That’s the wisdom of the LEFT and minorities who hate White America. Just saying.....oh.....and I’m hispanic too. But I call it as I see it. Thank yah....


25 posted on 12/03/2011 7:35:20 PM PST by JNRoberts
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To: Texas Fossil

Strip searches aren’t just for criminals or suspected criminals anymore!


26 posted on 12/03/2011 7:36:28 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: theymakemesick

The TSA is the reason I will never board another airplane. I’ve been everywhere I wanted to go, so I don’t have any reason to fly.

If I can’t drive there, I don’t go there..........


27 posted on 12/03/2011 7:40:23 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Texas Fossil

Looks really dangerous!


28 posted on 12/03/2011 7:49:23 PM PST by susannah59
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To: bigbob
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Ben Franklin (1775)

29 posted on 12/03/2011 7:49:29 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: JNRoberts
oh.....and I’m hispanic too.

There were Tejanos at the Alamo and at San Jacinto. They have always been a part of Texas. They were not La Raza.

Texas is not where you were born (or the color of your skin) but a State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.

May it ever be so. FUBO!

30 posted on 12/03/2011 7:55:52 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: freedumb2003
Awww. Mongo straight...
31 posted on 12/03/2011 7:59:17 PM PST by null and void (This is day 1047 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: Regulator

Lisa Farbstein pic:

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/KeLtPoPweJ_3deIQ3k6_hg—/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0yOTE7cT04NTt3PTUxMg—/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/1c38887bd8d8c419fe0e6a7067000c08.jpg


32 posted on 12/03/2011 7:59:43 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
“Proper procedures were followed.”

Adolf Eichmann and his boss the other Adolf are laughing at us from hell.

33 posted on 12/03/2011 8:02:49 PM PST by bvw
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To: Texas Fossil

She should’ve traveled in a burqua and the TSA would have left her alone.


34 posted on 12/03/2011 8:03:18 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: susannah59

85 years old, on blood thinners, hunched back, wheel chair.

TSA vermin.

Yes, a leg injury is very slow to heal. Even for a younger person.

Think she may win the lawsuit. But, on the other hand she may draw a Dem Judge and jury.


35 posted on 12/03/2011 8:06:27 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
“She looks like a sweet, little old lady,” he said. “She’s not a disruptive person or uncooperative.”

Exactly! You don't want them to be strip searching people who may fight back, do you? It is easier to strip search a frail 85 year old lady than a 20-something ME male.

36 posted on 12/03/2011 8:06:45 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Texas Fossil

Ewwwwwww............!


37 posted on 12/03/2011 8:07:57 PM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: freedumb2003

The Founding Fathers clearly intended freedom from unreasonable searches to only apply to walkers.


38 posted on 12/03/2011 8:08:04 PM PST by null and void (This is day 1047 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: bvw

According to the Adolfs.

Yes, they were just following orders. Oh, I forgot, that defense did not work for Eichmann.


39 posted on 12/03/2011 8:08:36 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: 353FMG

Yep. Such is the insanity of bureaucraps.


40 posted on 12/03/2011 8:10:39 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

I wonder how many brainless people think we are actually safer searching people like this?

I’m so sick of hearing the “but we are safer” mantra.


41 posted on 12/03/2011 8:12:00 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Just goes to show ya, government employees are preverts.


42 posted on 12/03/2011 8:12:34 PM PST by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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“TSA spokeswoman Lisa Farbstein said a review of closed circuit TV footage from the airport shows “proper procedures were followed.”

So are they now recording strip searches to see if proper procedures were followed?

43 posted on 12/03/2011 8:12:42 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: 353FMG

Sad but true.


44 posted on 12/03/2011 8:18:03 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: All

We should be “profiling” but it’s not out of the realm of possibility that some Muslim fanatics kidnap the family of an elderly person with little time left to live, implant an explosive device in an orifice and tell her “Detonate” the device over a populated city, or we will kill your family.

Far-fetched?

Remember, these people are crazy, and bank robbers have used a similar MO - hold the family of the bank manager hostage, have him clean the bank vault out of a large amount of cash and give it to them if he ever wants to see his wife and kids alive again.


45 posted on 12/03/2011 8:19:05 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield (The true face of the left that the MSM won't show: www.zombietime.com)
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To: basil

I really like traveling to some parts of this great country that are too far to drive on a vacation schedule. Until I’m retired, air travel is the only option for me. I do travel less than I would otherwise would (hear that, airline industry?) due to the personal violation while moslems - the real enemy that brought this whole thing upon us - seem to skate on through. Our slave (government) has become our master. Bastards.


46 posted on 12/03/2011 8:25:12 PM PST by theymakemesick
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To: freedumb2003

What about elder abuse? Maybe she can get them on that.


47 posted on 12/03/2011 8:26:10 PM PST by Shannon
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
We should be “profiling” but it’s not out of the realm of possibility that some Muslim fanatics kidnap the family of an elderly person with little time left to live, implant an explosive device in an orifice and tell her “Detonate” the device over a populated city, or we will kill your family.

Oh come on! Don't you think that family member, with something stuck up inside of them, might act just a tad nervous as they approached airline security? That's what profiling would catch.
48 posted on 12/03/2011 8:35:05 PM PST by Shannon
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To: basil
If I can’t drive there, I don’t go there..........

In 5-6 years, TSA will be doing this on the Interstate.

49 posted on 12/03/2011 8:41:08 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

So—I won’t take interstates. I seldom do anyway.

This is a beautiful country if you get off the interstate and take the back roads.

When you’re retired, you can take all the time you want.


50 posted on 12/03/2011 8:45:45 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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