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Dangerous Executive Orders Still on the Books
Godfather Politics ^ | December 2, 2011 | The Godfather

Posted on 12/03/2011 7:23:01 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

While doing a bit of Web surfing, I came across an article that contained some very disturbing information about Executive Orders. The ones that get you are the ones you don’t know about. With talk about riots in the streets, it’s not too much to imagine that some of these EOs below could be used under the force of law.

In J. R. R. Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings, the power of the ring is not something to be desired even by good people. The goal is to destroy it. When Boromir fails to avoid the ring’s power, he dies. Even Gandalf and the elves shun the power of the ring. Tolkien is doubtful that any person has the ability to resist the temptation of absolute power promised by the ring, even if that power is used for good. That is one of the great themes of the series.

Executive Orders (EO) have been used by presidents since the days of George Washington. The first EO addressed Washington’s normal household expenses which ones were to be accepted and paid by the Treasury Department. Pretty innocuous. The FBI was formed under an executive order by Teddy Roosevelt on July 26, 1908. The first time it was used to make a law was in 1916 by President Woodrow Wilson. It was said to be an ‘emergency’ measure and Congress was encouraged to validate it. They did and now the door was now open to ignore the Constitution. This is the same method used by Franklin Roosevelt in 1933 to close all the banks in the country. Americans were ordered to turn in all their gold to local banks.

The general purpose of an executive order is to provide the President with a mechanism for executing laws passed by Congress, not control of lives. These EOs are issued by the President as directives to agencies responsible for implementing laws.

However, some presidents take Executive Orders too far confusing EO with executive lawmaking. This “rule by executive order” observation was made no clearer than by Paul Begala, a former Bill Clinton aide: “Stroke of the pen. Law of the land. Kind of cool.”

While Begala thought this action “cool,” others did not. House Majority Leader Dick Armey said, “With the stroke of a pen, he may have done irreparable harm to individual rights and liberties.” He went on to add, “President Clinton seems bent on using his powers until someone says stop. President Clinton is running roughshod over our Constitution.”

Anti-Hoarding Laws and Executive Orders

Congress has 30 days to object to an Executive Order (EO) before it becomes law. No objections were raised against these Command and Control emergency “Readiness Laws” when they were put in place. Has the emergency arrived that needs them and are they slowly being introduced?

Bill Clinton grouped together the following EOs under EO #12919 released on June 6, 1994. These are the tools used to shred the Constitution and take away your rights under its protection: Each EO number is linked to its full content:

10995 — Federal seizure of all communications media in the US (tested last month).
10997 — Federal seizure of all electric power, fuels, minerals, public and private.
10998 — Federal seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private and all farms and equipment (including what you are storing for emergencies in your home right now).
10999 — Federal seizure of all means of transportation, including cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports and water ways.
11000 — Federal seizure of American people for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government so desires (this happened before in Europe during the Nazi regime).
11001 — Federal seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, both public and private.
11002 — Empowers the Postmaster General to register every single person in the US.
11003 — Federal seizure of all airports and aircraft.
11004 — Federal seizure of all housing and finances and authority to establish forced relocation. Authority to designate areas to be abandoned as “unsafe,” establish new locations for populations, relocate communities, build new housing with public funds.
11005 — Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private.
11051 — Provides FEMA complete authorization to put above orders into effect in times of increased international tension of economic or financial crisis (FEMA will be in control in case of “National Emergency”).

These EOs are not aimed at anti-hoarding but rather at seizure or confiscation of items and facilities “to provide a state of readiness in these resource areas with respect to all conditions of national emergency, including attack upon the United States.”

You’ll find most ‘seizure’ legislation ends with this phrase. These Executive Orders don’t define what specifically constitutes a national emergency…The specifics on hoarding are left up to the individual states.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billclinton; eo12919; executiveorders; paulbegala

1 posted on 12/03/2011 7:23:07 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
By law, executive orders apply only to the executive branch of government.

"Stroke of the pen, law of the land, pretty cool" isn't the way it supposed to work, regardless of what The Forehead says.

2 posted on 12/03/2011 7:25:57 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemy’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

bump

Those sound unconstitutional.


3 posted on 12/03/2011 7:28:23 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

EOs by any POTUS of any Party sound un-Constitutional.


4 posted on 12/03/2011 7:37:30 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Here is another point.

When free, the elves were what they could become. When they were under the power of Mordor, they became orcs, creatures that were still elves, but were what they became when not free.

Very good point, tolerance.


5 posted on 12/03/2011 7:37:46 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Now you know why a significant segment of the population has been investing in S&W, Colt, Remington, Bushmaster et al.


6 posted on 12/03/2011 7:38:19 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What does Dick Obama’s list look like?


7 posted on 12/03/2011 7:39:21 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: apoliticalone

yep


8 posted on 12/03/2011 7:39:56 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Back in 1970 there were lots of warnings about an EO that would seize property, food, and force people into labor camps. I don’t remember the EO number at this time.


9 posted on 12/03/2011 7:45:41 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wow. That is ominous. It’s a good thing 9-11 happened after Clinton was out, and that OKC wasn’t big enough.

The fall of the world economy would be big enough though, and it’s what Soros has been aiming for a long time now. Obama’s planning on being in Hawaii for a couple weeks, right around the time that Israel will have to attack Iran (since Obama is getting the US troops out of Iraq by year’s end). By then the Euro may have collapsed and our own collapse is just a little bit behind that.

And Congress is working on saying that the entire US can be called a battlefield, so that the Commander in Chief can use military forces to do whatever he wants to US citizens...

I’ve been struggling all day with the feeling that it is too late to save America. The boa is already squeezing our neck and there is no way to cut off its head at this point. I told my son that if the end of the world is birth, it sure feels like we’re heading into heavy labor very, very soon.


10 posted on 12/03/2011 7:54:10 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Passing this on. Thanks.


11 posted on 12/03/2011 8:01:54 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: butterdezillion

Kind of a coincidence that the unseen master in the Lord of the Rings is called Sauron and the hand that guides Obama is called Soros.


12 posted on 12/03/2011 8:02:42 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Lets see the rest of the list!

Show us the EO’s from the rest of the wanna-be kings.

As I recall EO’s expire at the end of each presidents term, it’s up to the new president to continue them or not.

How about we get the whole list, and make campaign issues of which ones each candidate would keep and which they would rescind?

A good test for who truly supports the constitution, separation of powers, and states rights!


13 posted on 12/03/2011 8:05:48 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

Those executive orders sound like...wait for it...COMMUNISM!

PING!


14 posted on 12/03/2011 8:08:33 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Loyal Sedition

That would be like a height contest between Snow white and the Seven Dwarfs.

There is only one serious contender when it comes to these candidates positions on seriously following the Constitution.

Like him or not.


15 posted on 12/03/2011 8:24:09 PM PST by EasySt (2012... Sometimes you have to flush twice.)
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To: Jonty30

The two beasts of Revelation are understood by many to represent politics/government and false religion. The two major enemies of the free world are communism and Islamism (corrupt government) and Islamism (corrupt religion) - both of which consider themselves to be the salvation of the world and both of which are against Christ (anti-Christ).

And those are the two groups that both Soros and his puppet, Obama, have always aligned themselves with. Those 2 beasts are now working together against freedom. Soros has said that he hopes the US loses the “war on terror” because that would weaken America and capitalism, which he considers to be the cause of all evil in the world. Soros has said he thinks he is God.

So I can’t help but think about the Two Towers, and their masters, Sauron and Saruman, and think of communism and Islamism - the two towers of Soros and Obama. The beast out of the sea and the beast out of the land, who both serve the dragon against Christ and the freedom and prosperity that comes with Him.

Satan is known as the “man of lawlessness”, and everywhere we look we can see him taking the upper hand right now. It is a very, very dark world right now.

If this doesn’t make sense to you just ignore it, but suffice it to say that I believe we are heading into times of deep, deep suffering. And the foundations for the takeover of this land have been in the works for some time. Primarily under the guiding hand - as you say - of George Soros, the man who thinks he is God and has to get rid of economic freedom and Christianity.


16 posted on 12/03/2011 8:25:49 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I get where you’re coming from.

You are correct, Christianity is due to being eliminated from this earth. When that happens, man will then be judged.


17 posted on 12/03/2011 8:29:17 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You are right.


18 posted on 12/03/2011 8:34:05 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: butterdezillion

Actually, the “man of lawlessness” refers to the anti-Christ, the man empowered by Satan, who is going to “exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.” [2 Thessalonians 2:4]


19 posted on 12/03/2011 8:47:49 PM PST by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

Wonder if they had to pull the link because it 404’s from here and from their site as well


20 posted on 12/03/2011 8:55:11 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You say “Congress has 30 days to object to an Executive Order (EO) before it becomes law.”

Do you have a reference for that? I’m going to need it when I discuss the problem with executive orders with some friends who don’t yet see how badly the constitution is being ignored.


21 posted on 12/03/2011 8:59:55 PM PST by StonyMan451 (As for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

sfl


22 posted on 12/03/2011 9:13:58 PM PST by phockthis
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You can fret all you want about all those EO’s on seizures.

What you really need to focus on is EO 12582 which tasked a Presidental appointed Council with implementing the provisions of Agenda 21 into federal policy. This occurred after the U.S. Senate refused to ratify the UN Agenda 21 treaty: The Convention on Biological Diversity.

This is a clear case of the illeagal implementation of an UN treaty through Executive Order. Several more have followed over the years and there were two more this summer. One created the Rural Council another the Ocean Council. All designed to place America under the Marxist/Socialist control of Agenda 21.

Almost two decades of this is a primary reason that America is headed towards third world nation status. Of course that was the plan all along.


23 posted on 12/03/2011 9:16:47 PM PST by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
All put in place by the sainted JFK in 1962 and not objected to by a congress controlled by RATS.
24 posted on 12/03/2011 10:32:37 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

bfl


25 posted on 12/03/2011 10:48:06 PM PST by TEXOKIE (... and Merry Christmas to all FREEPERS EVERYWHERE!)
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To: Captain7seas

What do the Rural Council and Ocean Council do exactly?


26 posted on 12/03/2011 11:12:36 PM PST by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Well, it was working just fine when I posted.


27 posted on 12/04/2011 2:30:10 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Well, as a seasoned wireless engineer I can tell you with absolute certainty that the "test" of EO 10995 was a dismal failure. Actually, pathetic is a better description.

Curious, though, exactly how is the Federal gubmint going to do all this seizing if TSHTF? Where is the manpower going to come from? The (grossly outnumbered) military? Obama's yet to be formed civilian police force equal in size and scope of the military? Existing police departments? Even if you somehow combined all three the effort would still be grossly outnumbered when you consider the scope of the effort required to accomplish the list and that there are roughly 88 million known gun owners and several million unknown gun owners in this country. I enjoy shooting and the wife and I shoot regularly, but I've never really considered myself a gun enthusiast. I view a gun as more of a tool to do a specific job, like a rake or a tractor. Even though I don't associate in the gun enthusiast crowd in my small circle of friends I know several people with gun and ammo collections that could only be described as an "arsenal". (think Charlton Heston) I'm sure these aren't isolated collections, either. Exactly how does the gubmint think they will be able to pull this off in the event of a crisis? The list of EO's is certainly ominous, but it seems a tad bit optimistic when you consider the numbers it would take to actually accomplish total seizure of all these various assets, not to mention the backlash they would face if they tried.

28 posted on 12/04/2011 4:29:24 AM PST by Thermalseeker (If ignorance is bliss how come there aren't more happy people?)
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To: Right Wing Assault
"What does Dick Obama’s list look like?"

Did you mean Dick H.0bama?

29 posted on 12/04/2011 5:50:27 AM PST by OldEagle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I scrolled down to the bottom of the page for one of the orders, and it was signed by JFK. If they were still in effect when Clinton was in office, then EVERY POTUS them was complicit.


30 posted on 12/04/2011 6:10:12 AM PST by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: Thermalseeker

They could arm and deputize the jobless.


31 posted on 12/04/2011 5:13:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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