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Pennsylvania Town Rejects Atheist 'There Are No Gods' Banner in Holiday (Christmas?) Display
Fox News ^ | 12/03/11

Posted on 12/04/2011 12:40:25 PM PST by Libloather

Pennsylvania Town Rejects Atheist 'There Are No Gods' Banner in Holiday Display
Published December 03, 2011 | Associated Press

ELLWOOD CITY, Pa. – A western Pennsylvania mayor refused to include a banner from an atheist group that says "there are no gods" as part of a holiday display that includes a Nativity scene, which has been erected annually on city property for decades.

Hundreds of people turned out to support the mayor's decision to go ahead with the display Friday, which also includes symbols pertaining to Kwanzaa and Hanukkah and secular symbols, including Santa Claus, a snowman and a Christmas tree.

The city about 35 miles northwest of Pittsburgh added secular symbols to the display this year after the Freedom From Religion Foundation complained last year that it amounted to a government endorsement of religion.

Seeking to head off a similar challenge, the mayor also invited the Madison, Wis.-based group to contribute something to the modified display, so the group mailed a sign that read: "At this season of the Winter Solstice, may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atheist; banner; christmas; pennsylvania
Just tried a Google search for 'atheist holidays'. Pretty pathetic results, really. As far as I can tell, there aren't any. Maybe they need to learn how to STFU and leave everyone else alone. Dunno.
1 posted on 12/04/2011 12:40:27 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Never could understand why atheists make such a big deal of things they don’t believe in.

Could it be that their conscience is bothering them and that they are screaming for help?


2 posted on 12/04/2011 12:44:51 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Libloather

Never could understand why atheists make such a big deal of things they don’t believe in.

Could it be that their conscience is bothering them and that they are screaming for help?


3 posted on 12/04/2011 12:45:00 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Libloather

Never could understand why atheists make such a big deal of things they don’t believe in.

Could it be that their conscience is bothering them and that they are screaming for help?


4 posted on 12/04/2011 12:45:08 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

Ditto Ditto Ditto


5 posted on 12/04/2011 12:49:52 PM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Libloather

Who are they trying to convince? Us or themselves?


6 posted on 12/04/2011 12:50:59 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Libloather

Who are they trying to convince? Us or themselves?


7 posted on 12/04/2011 12:51:04 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Libloather

8 posted on 12/04/2011 12:58:18 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: Libloather

The AP doesn’t really have very learned reporters...because, if one knows history, Santa Claus is not really a *secular* symbol.

;-))


9 posted on 12/04/2011 1:05:47 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Libloather
It's always the same. Atheists(of a certain kind) like to make a big show of how their lofty intelligence must be proclaimed to inform the ignorant. How dare you insult their reason with your pathetic holidays and beliefs. It causes them great distress and discomfort for you to not believe and recognize their superiority over your pathetic mind. How can you not change your world to accommodate them?

They just seem like horribly selfish people to me. Always ridiculing others with a "bearded or sandled sky god" with no grasp of any other dimension than their own importance. Pray for them.

10 posted on 12/04/2011 1:13:58 PM PST by martian622 (The Revolution is being televised.)
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To: SumProVita
You mean SAINT Nicholas (aka Santa Claus) isn't 100% secular? What would ever give you that idea? /LOL
11 posted on 12/04/2011 1:23:09 PM PST by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: Libloather
“At this season of the Winter Solstice, may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds.”

I suppose it’d be rude to suggest that history shows that creed, in action, followed out to the end, has callused more hearts and enslaved more minds than any religion.

12 posted on 12/04/2011 1:25:12 PM PST by RichInOC (Jesus is coming back soon... and man, is He ticked off. (I'm trying to keep it clean.))
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To: Libloather
Atheists are tedious in their constant complaints about 'religion'. Too bad if they don't choose to subscribe to a spiritual faith. Millions do and an innocuous nativity display, even on 'government' property (in reality, the people's property) harms no one. It is absurd to contend that a city or town government simply acknowledging a major Christian holiday - the birth of Jesus - celebrated by the vast majority of the population in America - is an 'endorsement of religion', and what if it were? What is so terrible about that? No one is in any way compelled to believe anything or give worship to any specific deity by virtue of a nativity scene on the town green. No wonder Americans have grown weary of atheists and their seemingly constant whining about an expression of 'religion' in anything but an 'official' church. As John Stossel used to say: "Gimme a break!"
13 posted on 12/04/2011 1:45:05 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: Libloather

The Athiest Holiday is officially February 31.


14 posted on 12/04/2011 1:48:16 PM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: Libloather

Earth to athiests, earth to athiests...

It is indeed true that no one can prove there is a God.

But no one can prove that there is not a God.

So shut the f...er...shut your smelly Obama.


15 posted on 12/04/2011 2:03:20 PM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: Da Coyote
"But no one can prove that there is not a God."

It's usually better if you state this in the positive-sense. i.e., It is impossible to prove that the natural/material world represents the total of reality.

That pre-empts the "can't prove a negative" arguments from small-minded people.

16 posted on 12/04/2011 2:14:41 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Libloather

Speaking as a former Atheist IMO they are angry at God for some reason.


17 posted on 12/04/2011 2:17:39 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Democratic Party - The party of genocide.)
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To: Libloather

Speaking as a former Atheist IMO they are angry at God for some reason.


18 posted on 12/04/2011 2:17:51 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Democratic Party - The party of genocide.)
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To: Libloather

Speaking as a former Atheist IMO they are angry at God for some reason.


19 posted on 12/04/2011 2:17:57 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Democratic Party - The party of genocide.)
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To: Libloather

There are no holidays for atheists to celebrate. People don’t make holidays to celebrate “nothing”. Further there is no tradition this time of the year specifically created and observed by atheists and recognized as being atheist tradition.

So there’s nothing to add to the holiday displays. You can just point to the big area of empty space next to all the other displays and say THAT is the atheist display.


20 posted on 12/04/2011 2:26:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Libloather

In recognition of their beliefs, the atheists should be given an empty space in which nothing is allowed.


21 posted on 12/04/2011 2:27:35 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SumProVita
You mean SAINT Nicholas (aka Santa Claus) isn't 100% secular? What would ever give you that idea? /LOL
22 posted on 12/04/2011 2:31:10 PM PST by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: RichInOC
This could almost be right out of Lucretius. Maybe if they had stuck with Latin they could have snuck it in:

et faciunt animos humilis formidine divom
depressosque premunt ad terram propterea quod
ignorantia causarum conferre deorum
cogit ad imperium res et concedere regnum

23 posted on 12/04/2011 4:17:28 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: piytar

Yes and they blithely mention the Christmas tree as a secular symbol, even as the term is in the process of being squeezed out by the noncomittal “holiday tree”.

The snowman, I will concede.


24 posted on 12/04/2011 4:30:20 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: GourmetDan

I agree...but that particular construct seemed to fit my rant on atheists..


25 posted on 12/04/2011 5:07:52 PM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: Libloather
Ellwood City is a nice town. Good Christian people, really more midwestern in feel than anything else. I believe they supplied several of the zombies for the classic horror film Night of the Living Dead. Some of the residents who are still alive still show up and cheerfully sign autographs for cult followers who still come to the area for occasional reunions.

Nobody here made more than a little pocket money off that film, but they still feel an obligation to reward its fans, some of whom fly in from Europe. I think that's just one reason why the town isn't going to rollover and scrap a long-standing tradition for a bunch of out of state atheist lawyers.

26 posted on 12/04/2011 9:30:49 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: martian622
I have a couple "seeker" Atheist friends who are nice, personable people. I can accept that, if not be happy about it. At least they're showing a sincere effort at understanding.

I also know a few people, no longer friends, who bask in the superiority of their Atheism, talk pseudo-intellectual nonsense, and God help you if you disagree. I had one guy who, whenever I disagreed, sent me wikipedia articles specifying my intellectual impediment.
27 posted on 12/05/2011 6:41:48 AM PST by DarkSavant
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To: piytar; SumProVita

The AP probably thinks that “Saint Nicholas” is a corruption of “Sinterklaas,” the Dutch term for “Santa Claus,” instead of “Santa Claus” being a corruption of “Sinterklaas,” which itself is a corruption of “Sint Nikolaas,” the Dutch term for “Saint Nicholas.”

It’s like when secular humanists try to strip all remnants of Christianity away from St. Patrick’s Day, but leave in the shamrock.


28 posted on 12/05/2011 7:57:12 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Lol! This is so true....I’m maintaining my joyful spirit in spite of what all these poor deluded say or do. ;-)


29 posted on 12/05/2011 9:12:18 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: martian622
Atheists(of a certain kind) like to make a big show of how their lofty intelligence must be proclaimed to inform the ignorant. How dare you insult their reason with your pathetic holidays and beliefs. It causes them great distress and discomfort for you to not believe and recognize their superiority over your pathetic mind. How can you not change your world to accommodate them?

I have a friend, actually he is the son of a very old friend of mine. This young man graduated from West Point and proceeded to serve out the majority of his time in both Afghanistan and Iraq in a combat role as an Infantry Officer, eventually gaining a company command. He is highly decorated. Once he as a 1LT he was serving as XO (2nd in command of his rifle company) and saw his commander shot thru the neck right in front of him and die. He had to take over the battle which he did and won! The man is a verified hero. As are all of our troops who serve in harms way. I and others prayed for him constantly. He ridiculed us, but in a patient way as one would speak to a small somewhat retarded child. Now he's out of the army and in law school. I was always a little envious of him. He got to do what I always trained to do but never had the opportunity. I'm just an EX-SOLDIER, not a combat veteran. By the time 911 popped, I was just a broken down older wannabe warhorse. Too overweight and physically messed up to serve in any capacity. Despite having three letters from serving brigade commanders that they'd each take me onto their staffs sight unseen in 25 years, despite any disabilities that could and would be waived. That made me feel good (that those men all remembered me from active duty and recognized that I was good at my job, then) but the army still said "no." That's kinda why I feel under qualified to tell this young man about God's love and salvation. I feel it should be somebody of similar experience and decorations, if that makes any sense.

30 posted on 12/06/2011 7:20:20 AM PST by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: ExSoldier

I dunno... I’d think if you feel moved to share a spiritual thing with him, a person’s station or accomplishments in life should not stop you from doing so. If you respect the guy and want to share a good message, you’re doing the thing you think best. If he doesn’t want to hear it, it’s his choice. In the end, it’s the spirit that counts. ^^


31 posted on 12/06/2011 4:05:48 PM PST by martian622 (The Revolution is being televised.)
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