Skip to comments.McCain: Hispanic vote 'up for grabs'
Posted on 12/04/2011 6:29:33 PM PST by presidio9
Sen. John McCain said Sunday that the potentially powerful Hispanic vote in the upcoming presidential election remains "up for grabs" because neither President Barack Obama nor Republicans have convinced these voters that they are on their side.
The one-time GOP presidential hopeful, whose own 2008 candidacy was shaped in part by immigration, said that large Hispanic populations in his home state of Arizona and elsewhere are listening carefully to what Republican candidates have to say on immigration and could become a "major factor" in 2012.
"I think that the Republican Party has to discuss this issue in as humane way as possible," he said. He later added, "The enthusiasm on the part of Hispanics for President Obama is dramatically less than it was in 2008, because he has not fulfilled his campaign promises either. So I view the Hispanic vote up for grabs."
McCain comment, on CNN's "State of the Union," is a warning to the GOP primary candidates who have mostly embraced a hard line on immigration, lest they be accused of supporting any kind of "amnesty" for the some 12 million illegal immigrants estimated to be living in the U.S.
Newt Gingrich was most recently attacked by his opponents for saying he would grant legal status to those with longstanding family and community ties; he has since endorsed a South Carolina law that allows police to demand a person's immigration status.
McCain said he believes the Hispanic vote could sway Arizona, Colorado and New Mexico. The key, he said, was for Republicans to address immigration in a humane and pragmatic way that every voter could appreciate. More specifically, McCain said, GOP presidential candidates should find a way to address the status of illegal immigrants already in the country while finding a way to secure the border to
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McCain is senile.
Hey Juan! This is probably a silly question but when were illegal aliens given the right to vote and who gave it to them? Somebody needs to be doing the “perp walk”.
Meanwhile, the labor unions are strong opponents of immigration, and 83% of Hispanics oppose abortion, versus 72% of Conservatives, according to Pew research.
That being said, I do agree that McCain could hide his own Easter Eggs. I'm looking forward to Sarah Palin replacing him.
Yeah. Guess time to give up and surrender, learn spanish adopt the gang sign and go back of the line to wait what the gov gives me.
We had a pretty nice run here as an american country.
Time for change.
I will learn to love amnesty and Newt.
Seems kinda racist lumping all Hispanics into one group, He should have said the American vote is up for grabs
Be honest: You're you using the same speechwriter Obama had when he said Republicans wanted dirtier air, and dirtier water, right?
Either you need to read the article before posting, or someone needs to explain to you why not all Hispanics are illegal aliens.
Sen. John McCain said ...
Calla te Juan.
And why not all Hispanics are Democrats nor support liberal agendas. Even the term, "Hispanic", blurs the reality of individuals and groups with frequently different, sometimes competing, interests and goals, by dumping them into one big monolithic pot.
When people on this website make the mistake of assuming that all Hispanics are illegal aliens, it not only helps the DNC "racist" narrative, but it also gives the impression to moderates that everyone here is a radical.
OK, put this in your pipe and smoke it then: Not all “hispanics” are illegal aliens (certainly) but a majority of illegal aliens are “hispanic.”
It’s the new GOP, same as the Old GOP!
You’re irrelevant, McLame. Just sit down and shut up, OK?
I disagree he isn’t senile just slick.
He is trying to make a case for Republicans catering to the illegal immigrant amnesty debate, by getting them to back amnesty and the illegals.The same as he does.
As for the sainted “Hispanic” vote, The Republicans will get their usual 20% or so. But that will not stop them from pandering to La Raza and others.
Just like their pilgrimages to the NAACP to try to get the Black vote. In the end, they get 5%. On rare occasions they might get 10%.
What the heck, why not just hoist the Mexican flag over the White House.
This was the comment he was referring to:
Hey Juan! This is probably a silly question but when were illegal aliens given the right to vote and who gave it to them?
McCain had his opportunity to mastermind this problem four years ago and he fought for us like a wild
kitten. Oy, if he’s going to keep kibitzing on strategy without a cue in his hand, he should chalk his nose.
2012 is a re-boot.
Tsuris, what a world, what a world*
And John McCain thought it was also a good idea to address La Raza...
You ass-u-med that the poster meant to include legal “hispanic” citizens (who might have received amnesty in `86) when he expressly stated “illegal aliens.”
Responding to the call of the question the correct answer is that illegal aliens should not have the right to vote, but if it were possible to give it to them, John McCain or Newt Gingrich would probably try to see if that could be accomplished ... since “hispanics” were such an important factor in the 2008 election.
Gigrich, in any event, is going out of his way to make sure that illegals do NOT get the right to vote, by proposing deportation for most of them, and offering the small percentage who remain legal status, but not citizenship.
Me hopes that McCain will shut up until the general election is over. He really hasn’t contributed anything to our party. In fact he’s done more damage than good. Plus he made things worse by bringing up his dingbat daughter in his image.
LOL. No. They are not.
The only place you can find someone willing to be called "Hispanic" is in the United States, simply because the Nixon administration wanted a census category to lump people from or descended from Spanish speaking countries. Look how successful they were by the number of posters who routinely use the term like it actually describes something or somebody identifiable.
You and I are really not at odds over the essential point I think you want to make: the majority of illegal aliens come from south of our southern border and by-and-large they speak Spanish.
How did McCain’s “humane way” work out for him in 2008? Of the three states he mentioned, 0bama won two: Colorado and New Mexico—and took about 2/3 of the Hispanic vote nationwide. McCain is a prophet without honor, and we should accord him none.
Why are we redicuded to the mere color of our skin before politicians in regard to our vote?
Why must I be seen as a white, a black, or a Hispanic? Have I not a mind of my own, the ability to think and judge for myself?
The very idea that ethic groups should vote in unison is revolting. While polls and social & ideological pressure from within and without theses groups might support the idea. I think it simply sick.
If you are going to identify a man identify him by his choices not what he was born as!
It’s easy to see where Meghan got her intelligence.
Shut up McCain and sit down.
oh great..we pick up say another 5-10% of their bloc?
the lackluster way they vote, that’s only 1/2 to 1 percent of total votes
you wanna mine votes?
go for the soft cracker middle
that is where elections are won
pandering to minorities pays little dividends for now
maybe one day as latinos further eclipse blacks that could change but for now unless you shift 25-50% of them...fuggedabout it
much easier to sway 7% of whites than 50% of latinos
Wrong, wrong, and wrong, it was the illegals in the service union that got dingbat Harry Reid reelected. And the unions know it will be easy to get more illegals to join.
If latinos oppose abortion, why is it legal in mexico city??? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090126170309AA2Bs5S
If this is going to be the direction of his campaign, shouldn’t he be pitching it in Mexico or Guatamala?
Illegals don't vote. Please try again.
For the purposes of this discussion, the only relevant information is what Hispanics in this country care about. That being said, from the link you provided:
Abortion is only legal if the woman was raped, or the pregnancy represents a mayor risk for the woman's health,
Labor Unions may have once been on the side of immigration restriction, but they aren’t anymore. Groups like the AFL-CIO are leftist organizations first and foremost. They’ve betrayed their members on immigration, apparently betting instead on the permanent power immigration-driven demographic changes may give to Democrats.
Do you really believe that if Newt were to become President and pass his Red Card nonsense, that it would actually stand? Do you really think that the red-carded wouldn’t eventually be granted a path to citizenship?
Even if the Democrats went along initially (as a calculated first step), eventually the policy would be attacked as creating second class citizens. Proponents of this policy will become the new racists, bigots, xenophobes, etc.
And there is no reason to think Newt would have the backbone or right state of mind to either stand up to or ignore this garbage. In fact it would probably be the opposite.
Remember, Newt completely sold out and betrayed conservatives on racial preferences back in the 90s. He could have passed a strong, popular anti-racial preferences bill (as he pretty much promised to do before he was actually Speaker) that would have been hard for Clinton to veto. But once he actually had the power and position to do this, he changed his tune.
He’s never been called to account for this unfortunately.
However the Mexican Constitution specifically forbids the church to own property, for clerics to publicly wear clerical garb, and at the beginning of the present political era, priests were hunted down and liquidated, convents destroyed, etc etc. Mexico is NOT a "Catholic country."
Huge numbers of Mexicans have also been converted by protestant missionary activity (also technically illegal). Here in the US, the Catholics have gone all out to make them welcome.
Isn't this just maddening! We are supposed to pretend that we don't know that many hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, and many LEGAL aliens who do have the right, are illegally registered across the US.
WTF? I am not worried. Karl Rove tells me that they are the "Republicans of the Future."
Isn't this just maddening! We are supposed to pretend that we don't know that many hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, and many LEGAL aliens who do NOT have the right, are illegally registered across the US.
WTF? I am not worried. Karl Rove tells me that they are the "Republicans of the Future."
Just curious, because I really don't know the answer to this - how many representatives would states like CA get if they did not count the illegal population? Does it make a difference?
It's convenient for our overlords to convince the Hispanics that they're all one group and should all vote the same way, like some other groups. No thinking allowed!
No, it is not.
Where the voters identify as “Hispanic” or “Latino” or “Mexican-American” the majority will be Democrats, the party of tribalism and racial spoils.
If they identify as “American” they will be majority Republican.