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USPS wants to limit next-day service (Put a fork in 'em! They're Done!)
cnn ^ | 12/3/2011 | By Jennifer Liberto

Posted on 12/05/2011 4:39:32 AM PST by tobyhill

The U.S. Postal Service on Monday will announce a cost-savings proposal that would no longer deliver first-class mail on the next day.

The financially troubled agency will present to its overseers a proposal to change its national standard for first-class mail to two-to-five days from one-to-three, according to interviews with several mail industry officials who received a presentation by the agency this week.

"This isn't a change we're happy about," said Art Sackler, executive director of the National Postal Policy Council, a trade group for large mailers. "But if they don't cut somewhere and substantially, they're going to run out of cash next summer. It's one of the lesser evils."

Right now, customers on average receive mail the day after it was mailed, according the postal service. That may still happen, but a lot less frequently under the proposed rules, say the insiders who were briefed on the proposal.

The proposed rules are not a surprise. The postal service asked for public comment in September on "eliminating the expectation of overnight service" for first class mail. But it could have a major impact on customers, especially those who still use the mail to pay their bills.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abovereason; exclusivepensions; postoffice; usps; wastenotwantnot
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To: bert

I know people in their 90s who still get a SS check in the mail. This despite the “changeover” to direct deposit. When I recently spoke with an agent about it, he said that for people that old the govt is going to make an exception and keep sending it snail. LOL, even the fed gov doesn’t want to argue with the greatest generation!


41 posted on 12/05/2011 6:23:57 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: tobyhill
The issue is that it doesn't matter what happens to the USPS, the Fedgov still has to pay the pensions.

Until we reform all of the budget, we are still screwed.

42 posted on 12/05/2011 6:37:40 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: bert

the USPO must continue to serve the ever diminishing few


Is that in the Constitution?

Or is there a “Bill of Musts” I haven’t heard about?


43 posted on 12/05/2011 6:50:16 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: ml/nj

It’s not clear to me how delivering the mail more slowly would save money


Centralizing sorting centers. Mail needs to follow a longer path, and they can reduce the cost by eliminating facilities.


44 posted on 12/05/2011 6:52:48 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: muawiyah

i find being able to mail a card across country for 44 cents a bargain. even at 50 cents it would still be a bargain. caveat: i pay my bills by mail and send birthday and holiday cards, but i am not a big volume user as some businesses are.


45 posted on 12/05/2011 6:55:08 AM PST by IWONDR
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To: dinodino

What has USPS in trouble is that like purely private companies it’s being forced to fund future health care costs (and perhaps pensions, I’m not sure?) as it goes. All government entities are permitted to cheat and not do that. But the USPS unions want to continue to splurge like their purely government brethren. The proper fix is to apply the real world rules to them as well and declare liberalism and its government unions all to be bankrupt.


46 posted on 12/05/2011 6:57:34 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Beelzebubba

There is statute law that governs...... look it up


47 posted on 12/05/2011 7:15:37 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: tobyhill; All

Allowing more time for Democrat voter fraud in Mail-In Elections....


48 posted on 12/05/2011 7:24:23 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: HamiltonJay
What is breaking the back of the USPS is Congress' unfair and unreasonable mandates for pre-funding of union retiree health benefits. They lost $5.1 billion in FY'11, but the 2006 Congress bent them over the table for the unions, by forcing them to pre-fund 75 years worth of retiree health benefits in only TEN YEARS, a level required of no other government agency.

If it weren't for Congress, the USPS wouldn't be in this situation at all.

A Manufactured ‘Crisis’: Congress Can Let The Post Office Save Itself Without Mass Layoffs Or Service Reductions

At the very end of that year, Congress passed the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006 (PAEA). Under PAEA, USPS was forced to “prefund its future health care benefit payments to retirees for the next 75 years in an astonishing ten-year time span” — meaning that it had to put aside billions of dollars to pay for the health benefits of employees it hasn’t even hired yet, something “that no other government or private corporation is required to do.”

49 posted on 12/05/2011 7:33:33 AM PST by mvpel
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To: JohnBovenmyer

That’s exactly right, JohnBovenmyer. Time for a dose of sanity in the USPS.


50 posted on 12/05/2011 7:37:02 AM PST by dinodino
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To: mvpel

Thank you for posting the APWU viewpoint. Now, care to post a sane counterpoint? Why in the world SHOULDN’T the USPS pay for their pension and retiree costs? If the USPS don’t want to be part of FERS or whatever, then they can withdraw and do it themselves. Fund everything with postage, and if they can’t cover it, time to cut costs and/or raise rates...

...just like those of us in the private sector have to do. USPS can suck it.


51 posted on 12/05/2011 7:45:53 AM PST by dinodino
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To: tobyhill; All

this will have an effect on court documents.

most states has a “mail rule” that adds three days to first class mail required deadlines. This will increase the calculation to five days.

even more if they cut saturday.


52 posted on 12/05/2011 8:08:58 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: muawiyah

perhaps it is time to change the union pension prepay boondoggle rule.


53 posted on 12/05/2011 8:16:48 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: dinodino

Should they pay for the pension and retiree costs of employees they haven’t even hired yet?


54 posted on 12/05/2011 9:10:47 AM PST by mvpel
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To: bert

There is statute law that governs...... look it up


A “statute law”? Oh no!

That means Congress can change the law.


55 posted on 12/05/2011 9:46:57 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: mvpel

Nope. They have enough problems with paying the lavish pensions and benefits for their EXISTING employees. According to the GAO, current wages, pensions, and benefits account for more than 80% of the USPS’s costs. The USPS obviously has a structural problem, blame for which I suspect can be laid entirely at the feet of the Postal union.


56 posted on 12/05/2011 9:51:44 AM PST by dinodino
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To: mvpel

I know and stated that Congress has mismanaged it.. they made a decision when things were flying high, and now everythings in the crapper they haven’t modified it... Typical Government, takes 10 years to act on anything.


57 posted on 12/05/2011 10:56:32 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Pravious

“A great solution to losing customers... make your service crappier!”

They must have learned this from the airline industry, or was it the other way around, I forget!


58 posted on 12/05/2011 10:59:04 AM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: dinodino

What has USPS in trouble is that like purely private companies it’s being forced to fund future health care costs (and perhaps pensions, I’m not sure?) as it goes. All government entities are permitted to cheat and not do that. But the USPS unions want to continue to splurge like their purely government brethren. The proper fix is to apply the real world rules to them as well and declare liberalism and its government unions all to be bankrupt.


59 posted on 12/05/2011 11:13:40 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: longtermmemmory
There was NO pension prepay boondoggle rule ~ it was a Health Care Insurance prepayment for people who will retire in 75 years from now.

Nobody does that ~ Congress thought that would balance the books.

60 posted on 12/05/2011 12:23:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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