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New 'extreme cold' warning will replace wind chill warning
pioneer press ^ | 12-4-11 | andy rathbun

Posted on 12/05/2011 5:32:56 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB

You won't be hearing wind chill warnings in the Twin Cities this winter - but not because it won't get cold.

Several National Weather Service offices, including the office in Chanhassen, are replacing wind chill warnings with what they're calling "extreme cold" warnings.

"In large part, it's just a name change," said Todd Krause, warning coordination meteorologist for the weather service's Chanhassen office.

Krause said warnings used to be issued if the wind chill factor dropped to minus 35.

But if the temperature was minus 35 with no wind, no warning was issued.

The new extreme cold warning will be issued for dangerously low temperatures or wind chills.

"Once or twice every winter, you can get a time when the actual air temperature drops down to minus 35," Krause said.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: algore; cold; extreme; gaia; windchill

1 posted on 12/05/2011 5:33:01 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Good to know when its’ minus 35 outside. Especially since nobody has outside thermometers up there!


2 posted on 12/05/2011 5:46:05 AM PST by GoldenPup
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"In large part, it's just a name change," said Todd Krause

No, it is not just a name change. Words mean things. Just as "Global Warming" has been given new life by having the MSM use the term, "Climate Change". If the LEFT controls the language, it controls the argument.

3 posted on 12/05/2011 5:46:49 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I don’t know why they are messing with a perfectly descriptive term like wind chill. Wind chill applies at any temp below 60 or so degrees, not just super low temps.

Once experienced -40° as a kid. No wind chill, thank goodness, but the air was so cold you could feel your lungs chill with every breath. The snow underfoot became incredibly noisy when you walked over it, as the crystals did not melt under pressure.


4 posted on 12/05/2011 5:48:13 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

And in the Summer they are going to replace the age old phrase “It’s not the heat it’s the humidity” with, It’s not the heat, it’s the sweltering and deadly tropical furnace”.


5 posted on 12/05/2011 6:00:08 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Government make work project, new name for everything.


6 posted on 12/05/2011 6:01:19 AM PST by biff (WAS)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I wonder why meteorologists are renaming common expressions? It comes across as either using euphemisms or political correctness. If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.

Last summer, there was great derision when some meteorologists decided to rename “dust storms”, “haboobs”, the Arabic word for “strong winds”, not dust storms, making the meteorologists sound like fools. The air was filled with “boob” jokes. “Ha! Boobs!”

I think the process began when they renamed the “tidal wave”, “tsunami”, which may be more technically correct, sort of, but still sounds like some kind of sushi or Japanese consumer product.

Though personally, I would be downright gleeful if they decided to call hurricanes by their German name, “der Wirbelsturm”, which just lends itself to hilarity.


7 posted on 12/05/2011 6:06:43 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: WOBBLY BOB

We must be PC to the global warming kooks.


8 posted on 12/05/2011 6:10:13 AM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: 6SJ7
Wind chill applies at any temp below 60 or so degrees, not just super low temps.

Was not aware of that! Here in Florida, we don't get extreme cold, per se, and when we're told that wind chills are in the teens/twenties, it usually means that cold air is blowing across the Gulf and ripping through any clothing on our bodies.

Dead still cold nights usually don't categorize under "wind chill" for our local meteorologists.

9 posted on 12/05/2011 6:10:43 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Even the term ‘wind chill’ has changed.

As a paperboy in the Twin Cities in the 70s, we had one winter day where the temperature was -32F with high winds. I still had papers to deliver. I wore as many layers of clothes as was possible. I was able to deliver papers for about five minutes before I had to go back in my dad’s car to warm up for five minutes, mainly because my eyeballs got so cold that it was getting hard to see. The news reported that it was a wind chill of -101F.

Apparantly, the wind chill scale was changed later on. Now you can’t get that kind of wind chill.


10 posted on 12/05/2011 6:27:36 AM PST by kidd
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To: 6SJ7
As a Maine pundit once said "Windchill just gives you something else to b**** about." lol!

-35 without a wind is @#%#@% cold, but bearable. However, anything below zero, with a wind, gets rough quick.

Coldest that I ever saw (on the thermometer) it in Maine was -44. It was unpleasant, but not awful. The back side of Nor'easters, though, with -20 or -30 temps, and high winds, were dangerous to be out in.

And you're right about the snow squeaking when it got really cold. The wood steps on my house did the the same thing. And the tires of the cars used to square off, too.

I live in the south now, and don't miss it a bit. :-)

11 posted on 12/05/2011 6:30:00 AM PST by wbill
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To: kidd
The news reported that it was a wind chill of -101F.

Yeah, I remember that. -100 used to be pretty routine in Maine. I remember my dad cursing because it was -120 with the wind chill, and he'd just called my grandfather in NC.....who had just come in from mowing his lawn.

They changed the windchill scale 20-ish years ago, I think. Not that it matters any. You don't want to be out in -60 degree cold, any more than you want to be out in -100 degree cold.

12 posted on 12/05/2011 6:33:38 AM PST by wbill
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To: WOBBLY BOB

A prime example why most men in really cold climates shave their beards before winter sets in.


13 posted on 12/05/2011 6:38:35 AM PST by calex59
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To: rarestia

Wind chill applies at any temp below 60 or so degrees, not just super low temps.

Was not aware of that!


You can get hypothermia riding a motorcycle on a cool summer day.


14 posted on 12/05/2011 6:40:02 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Warm globally, cool locally!


15 posted on 12/05/2011 6:59:53 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

This article has no validity since it’s not printed in ALL CAPS!


16 posted on 12/05/2011 7:02:09 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but I want a President who loves mine.)
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To: NavyCanDo
In the south, will people still be saying, "Is it hot enough fer ya"?
17 posted on 12/05/2011 7:04:07 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but I want a President who loves mine.)
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To: wbill
"really cold"

Ah, the days of walking a mile to school in sub-zero weather and having my nostrils freeze. What great times. (smirk)

18 posted on 12/05/2011 7:06:02 AM PST by driftless2
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To: kidd

You still can, but you have to get it off a military chart. The worst I have seen was -146, according to the chart (-60 with a 40 MPH wind, Dec. 1983/Jan. 1984). Saturated salt water based drilling fluid blowing off the end of the shale shaker (I was working on a drill site) was freezing in mid-air in about 4 feet. I was getting splattered with it, but it just bounced off. I was very well dressed for the weather, but only good for about five minutes at a time out in it.


19 posted on 12/05/2011 7:45:44 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: calex59

Oh no! Keep the beard! The ice buildup on the outside means you have a layer of warmer and static air next to your skin. It looks cold, but it is much warmer than bare skin!


20 posted on 12/05/2011 7:49:23 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: calex59

even like that, it keeps your face warm.

yes, I’m series.


21 posted on 12/05/2011 7:49:56 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: 6SJ7
The snow underfoot became incredibly noisy when you walked over it, as the crystals did not melt under pressure.

Yep. It makes a kind of squeeching sound, like stepping in or driving over styrofoam peanuts. The kids ride their bicycles in -20 weather, because the snow is about the same as sand as far as traction goes.

22 posted on 12/05/2011 7:52:45 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: driftless2

Yeah, I had to do it in the snow and cold, too. Barefoot. Uphill. Both ways.


23 posted on 12/05/2011 8:00:16 AM PST by wbill
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To: WOBBLY BOB

-35...waaaaaaaaay colder than -34


24 posted on 12/05/2011 8:18:34 AM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: 6SJ7
Once experienced -40° as a kid.

In the 1980's, I skied at Alta, Utah, when it was -30°. Thankfully, there was no wind, and it was a bright, sunny day. There was also about 16 inches of new, fluffy powder. I remember walking around on the packed snow around the chairlifts, and you're absolutely correct--the snow "squeaked" when you walked on it.

25 posted on 12/05/2011 8:21:29 AM PST by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: 6SJ7
The snow underfoot became incredibly noisy when you walked over it, as the crystals did not melt under pressure.

I used to wear arctic gear and "shuffle" over snow like that. I remember one day unplugging my truck and as I approached the door handle, a static spark jumped from my hand to the door handle because it was so dry.

26 posted on 12/05/2011 9:43:34 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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