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Why Gingrich Will Do (Yes, he's imperfect. Who's not? But compare Gingrich to Obama)
American Thinker ^ | 12/05/2011 | James Lewis

Posted on 12/05/2011 7:08:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Yes, he's imperfect. Who's not?

But compare Gingrich to Obama. G has a Ph.D. in history (something the leftist media always forgets to tell us) and has written 20 books, some of them good ones, all expressing a deep understanding of the unique American experiment and the U.S. Constitution.

Obama thinks the Constitution is some kind of white imperialist plot designed to keep the victims of the world down and oppressed. That's why he did those deep bows to medieval tyrants like President Hu (the terror-master of Tibet), the figurehead emperor of Japan, and the desert-king of Arabia, King Abdullah of the house of Saud. No American president in history -- ever -- has physically and symbolically bowed down to medieval tyrants. Never.

Thomas Jefferson sent the U.S. Marines to Tripoli to fight the Barbary pirates. Obama has tried desperately, over and over again, to make nice with horrific fascist regimes, notably the nuclearizing mullahs of Tehran, who are about to explode their first Ego Bomb.

It's not just Israel that's in their sights, but America and Europe. That's why they just had a mob of Basiji thugs trash the British embassy in Tehran. That's why, you may remember, the thugocracy over there makes all the schoolchildren chant "Death to Israel! Death to America!" Every single day for the last thirty years.

This is not a bunch of rowdy football fans at a game. It's not a game at all to the Shi'ite martyrdom regime. It's a deadly earnest war ideology, which is why they just tried to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States.

So here's Obama trying to play footsie with the Saudis; the Khomeinist regime; and soon, the Muslim Brotherhood bosses of Egypt, Syria, Gaza, Lebanon, and many another failed state in the ME.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gingrich; newt; obama
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1 posted on 12/05/2011 7:08:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The majority of FReepers have railed on about how disastrous a Romney nomination would be... well, here’s the alternative, warts and all.

Much as we may wish to deny it, the country just isn’t conservative enough anymore to elect a Bachmann or a Santorum.


2 posted on 12/05/2011 7:13:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Newt2012
Sleazy+Brilliant=Adequate


3 posted on 12/05/2011 7:13:50 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pollster1

You forgot unpredictable.

However, he’s the best option. He’s got my vote.


4 posted on 12/05/2011 7:16:16 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.amazon.com/Nation-Like-No-Other-Exceptionalism/dp/B005DI8LIW

“A Nation Like No Other: Why American Exceptionalism Matters” by Newt Gingrich


5 posted on 12/05/2011 7:18:27 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Pollster1
LoL
6 posted on 12/05/2011 7:18:37 AM PST by jpf (phillies)
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To: SeekAndFind
ROOT 4 NEWT!
7 posted on 12/05/2011 7:20:06 AM PST by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: ScottinVA
Much as we may wish to deny it, the country just isn’t conservative enough anymore to elect a Bachmann or a Santorum.

Yes, I'll have to settle for a man with experience, who knows what Agenda 21 is and who Alinsky is and isn't shy about attacking Obama and the misledia and was a major player in the Reagan Revolution. We could do worse!

8 posted on 12/05/2011 7:23:54 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: ScottinVA

Need the right candidate as bachmann, santorum, paul, are not presidential material but cabinet/senatorial. The only peeps so far that are possible presidential are gingrich/perry. The statement the country wont elect a conservative is wrong, get Palin, demint etc to run and see what happens.


9 posted on 12/05/2011 7:26:44 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: brownsfan

I’ve had this argument at work. Strong Christians telling me that they will not vote for Newt under any circumstances. I say that this will get Obama reelected, several more anticonstitutional baby genocide judges and You will be responsible for this grievous sin. Hold your nose and vote for the best! . .. (by the way I am also an afflicted Browns fan. They have never let me down for so long because they have never been up. Oh for the ghost of Jim Brown!)


10 posted on 12/05/2011 7:26:44 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: SeekAndFind

Our goal is to oppose Romney and anybody similar. Hillary is not Romney so should we vote for her?

The most important issue facing the country is amnesty. Everything else (judges, tax rates, 2ndAm, etc) can still be changed later. Amnesty is permanent.

Once we surrender the country and allow amnesty (”this it is the last amnesty, honestly!”), there is no going back. It will invite more illegal aliens and increase the pressure to fast-track citizenship voting rights. They will vote 80% for dems (if you count double-voting, more like 160%). 3rd world country and welfare state will be forever.

Newt is the only candidate openly pushing for amnesty. The details of his plans are not important - no campaign time plan has ever been passed as such. Newt has already conceded amnesty so the compromise bill will be the usual plan (small amnesty that somehow will end up mass-amnesty and the imaginary fence will surprisingly not work or will be canceled by judges or by future president).

Amnesty, Global Warming scam, individual mandate in Obamacare and attacking Tea Parties for “radical rightwing social engineering” should disqualify Newt permanently. His past support for gun grabbing bills, fairness Doctrine and serial adultery may be forgiven.

If we support amnesty, what is the point anymore? The country is lost. I will refuse to accept defeat.


11 posted on 12/05/2011 7:27:16 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (just say no to amnesty))
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To: SeekAndFind
Intelligence and experience? That's just crazy... so crazy it just might work.
12 posted on 12/05/2011 7:27:40 AM PST by RC one (Newt is the last anti-Romney firewall.)
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To: heiss

It looks like we’re going to control the House and the Senate after 2012 so, if an amnesty bill gets passed, it won’t be the President’s fault be it president Obama or President Gingrich.


13 posted on 12/05/2011 7:31:14 AM PST by RC one (Newt is the last anti-Romney firewall.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Excellent and well reasoned article. I also like the bottom comment, "Sometimes, warriors are unpretty things. But, whatever else they may be, they are warriors--and sometimes we need the fight." (though I would have ended it with, ". . . sometimes we need a warrior," because it preserves the symmetry. :))

Newt ain't pretty, but he has accomplished real reform and he loves America and our traditions--and more importantly he believes in those traditions--thus he will fight for them.
14 posted on 12/05/2011 7:34:06 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: heiss

Neither Bachman nor Santorum can poll over 5%.
You’ve painted yourself into a corner.


15 posted on 12/05/2011 7:34:15 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: 2nd Amendment
Newt has repented and asked forgiveness, tell your Christian friends to live up Christ's commandment to forgive and welcome him into the fold!!
16 posted on 12/05/2011 7:35:05 AM PST by ontap
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To: ScottinVA
Much as we may wish to deny it, the country just isn’t conservative enough anymore to elect a Bachmann or a Santorum.

Nevermind the country...this is the Republican primaries we're talking about, and every last one of the self-professed "real" conservatives can vote for either one of them in their state primary. The question they need to ask themselves is why they don't. Just sayin...

17 posted on 12/05/2011 7:36:05 AM PST by Wolfstar
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To: Repeal The 17th

Their supporters don’t want to hear that.


18 posted on 12/05/2011 7:36:17 AM PST by ontap
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To: SeekAndFind

There was only one who was perfect. Unfortunately, Reagan is not running.


19 posted on 12/05/2011 7:36:26 AM PST by RonnG
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To: SeekAndFind
Yes, Gingrich is better than Obama.
But so are the following:

Why do we have to settle for anything but the best at this point?

20 posted on 12/05/2011 7:39:07 AM PST by kidd
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To: ScottinVA

“Much as we may wish to deny it, the country just isn’t conservative enough anymore to elect a Bachmann or a Santorum.”

So the solution is to make the country even less conservative by supporting amnesty? If we don’t fight amnesty now, soon it is too late. What people don’t realize is that amnesty attitude will destroy the country permanently. If you don’t start enforcing the law (deportations, e-verify, fence) and oppose any form of amnesty, more and more people will come here, stay here and eventually, one way or other, end up voting. And no matter what GOP is doing, former illegals will vote dems.

If Newt is surrendering already in the GOP primary phase, how do you think he will behave when he is the President and him, McCain, and Harry Reid sit down to plan “comprehensive immigration bill”. You can’t trust House or Senate to stop the insanity if you have open amnesty freak in the White House.


21 posted on 12/05/2011 7:39:16 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (just say no to amnesty))
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To: kidd

Yeah but what about that debate with Obama? Newt’s going to debate Obama and beat him. Did you forget about the debate? He’s going to wipe the floor with Obama in the debate. I can’t believe you won’t even mention the debate. That debate is going to be like the second coming of Jesus Christ Himself. Newt’s going to win that debate against Obama. Can you imagine when the debate comes on TV? It will truly be the most glorious moment in the history of the Republic and debating. In the name of everything holy I can’t believe you didn’t even talk about the debate!


22 posted on 12/05/2011 7:44:25 AM PST by HectorOne
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To: Repeal The 17th

Bachman and Santorum are polling at 6-8% in Iowa. 2 months ago Newt was polling at 5% there. Things change quickly.

I will never accept defeat by voting absolute RINO (whether it is Romney or Newt). Every time we have amnesty loving president, country will move more left as a result of new voters resulting from illegal immigration. Few more rounds and conservatives can’t win a single state anymore.

We need to stop Newt’s deranged amnesty push.


23 posted on 12/05/2011 7:45:49 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (just say no to amnesty))
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To: SeekAndFind
(Yes, he's imperfect. Who's not? But compare Gingrich to Obama)

So, AGAIN, the pubbies put up a RINO or establishment candidate and then campaign on the slogan, "He's not as bad as ... ."

In each case that has been true. But we've ended up with the same socialist policies anyway.

24 posted on 12/05/2011 7:46:58 AM PST by Jemian
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To: SeekAndFind

We’re reduced to considering candidates one notch of barrel scaping. The founding fathers must be rolling in their graves.


25 posted on 12/05/2011 7:47:56 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: 2nd Amendment

I love how all these holier-than-thou “strong Christians” ignore Jesus’s teachings on forgiveness. They give the rest of us a bad name. When someone goes out of their way to immediately identify themselves as a “Christian,” I check my wallet.


26 posted on 12/05/2011 7:48:26 AM PST by Lou Budvis (Newt/Marco '12)
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To: kidd

Has it yet occurred to you that your pursuit of perfection results in Romney as the nominee? Is Milt perfect in your eyes? ... Of course that was a rhetorical question. You don’t have to now step up and defend Milt as a good copnservative, since he has never been even close to that. But Newt is a conservative. He may not be the perfect conservative in your eyes, but he is the best bet to overcome the Milt ‘designed by media destiny’. Until you see that, your insistence serves Milt Rominey’s agenda/goal, which is ‘nomination by default’. [Rominy rhymes with hominy, the huskless corn product.]


27 posted on 12/05/2011 7:48:46 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: SeekAndFind
All wrong.

You support the most conservative candidate, period, in the primaries.

Then, you support the nominee, regardless, in the primary.

Well, that's the theory, anyhow.

But there's a good reason behind that theory.

You can't predict electability.

Who thought Obama could win?

28 posted on 12/05/2011 7:51:22 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: B Knotts
Then, you support the nominee, regardless, in the primary.

Oops. That should read: "Then, you support the nominee, regardless, in the general."

29 posted on 12/05/2011 7:52:43 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Lady Lucky

I am shifting my support to Newt Also. They cannot destroy him on his past. He can bring up all the crap libs have done and he will. He is not afraid of the Lame Stream media. Plus in the debates Obama will wee wee himself. And new needs to tell the Debate commision to take a flying F-00 off. We know their game and we wont play it. I wish he would but I doubt it.


30 posted on 12/05/2011 7:52:50 AM PST by crazydad
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To: MHGinTN

IMHO it is too early to settle on the anti-Romney candidate. I don’t seek perfection in a candidate. There are better anti-Romney choices than Gingrich.

And when the anti-Romney choice becomes apparent, I will support the anti-Romney choice (as long as it is not Huntsman).

Why should we settle for someone who “will do” (as the title of the article suggests, and which I agree with), when we can have “great”?


31 posted on 12/05/2011 7:58:07 AM PST by kidd
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To: B Knotts

“You support the most conservative candidate, period, in the primaries. “

Amen. We have two actual conservatives running (and in theory a new candidate in brokered convention) but people are already pushing for lying amnesty freak who has joined every liberal cause in the last 5 years (Amnesty, Global Warming, Cap-and-trade, Individual mandate in OmabaCare, bashing conservatives).

World has gone mad.


32 posted on 12/05/2011 8:00:12 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (just say no to amnesty))
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To: B Knotts

“You support the most conservative candidate, period, in the primaries. “

Amen. We have two actual conservatives running (and in theory a new candidate in brokered convention) but people are already pushing for lying amnesty freak who has joined every liberal cause in the last 5 years (Amnesty, Global Warming, Cap-and-trade, Individual mandate in OmabaCare, bashing conservatives).

World has gone mad.


33 posted on 12/05/2011 8:00:20 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (just say no to amnesty))
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To: crazydad

“I am shifting my support to Newt Also.”

I can sell you some Newt bumber stickers:
“Era of Reagan is Over - Newt2012”
or maybe this golden one:
“Stop radical rightwing social engineering - Gingrich2012!”
not to forget
“Amnesty: Today, Tomorrow, Forever! - Vote Newt2012”

These should go down well near Harvard faculty lounge.


34 posted on 12/05/2011 8:05:08 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (just say no to amnesty))
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To: heiss
So the solution is to make the country even less conservative by supporting amnesty? If we don’t fight amnesty now, soon it is too late. What people don’t realize is that amnesty attitude will destroy the country permanently.

No. I never said I agreed with the idea of embracing amnesty. I'm saying, on the whole.. across the plethora of issues, the country has shifted to the left.

Of course, each individual issue -- whether it's immigration, health care or taxes -- should be fought aggressively. But the undeniable fact is... overall.. we're in an era in which the Dems can have as their standardbearer the most leftist occupant of the WH (I'll never call him my "president") in history, and, regardless of the damage Obama and his cabal have done to this country, the odds are against his defeat in 2012. It says volumes, IMO.

35 posted on 12/05/2011 8:05:17 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: HectorOne

You mean the debates that will happen twice, at most?
Or the debates that will have a viewing audience of less than 1 million out of 13 million likely voters, most of which will be those who would tune in just to see Obama get destroyed because they plan to vote against Obama anyway?
Or the debates that will be conducted by the biased MSM, and likewise reported with bias by the MSM?
Or the debates that will have schedule conflict with Anerican Idol and thus won’t change the mind of anyone anyway?


36 posted on 12/05/2011 8:09:24 AM PST by kidd
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To: HectorOne

You mean the debates that will happen twice, at most?
Or the debates that will have a viewing audience of less than 1 million out of 13 million likely voters, most of which will be those who would tune in just to see Obama get destroyed because they plan to vote against Obama anyway?
Or the debates that will be conducted by the biased MSM, and likewise reported with bias by the MSM?
Or the debates that will have schedule conflict with Anerican Idol and thus won’t change the mind of anyone anyway?


37 posted on 12/05/2011 8:09:39 AM PST by kidd
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To: Lou Budvis

Newt is by far the brightest mind in the field. His brain races much faster than the average person. I do not believe he would have got us into the Iraq war as quickly as W. He is the brilliant college professor who suffers fools lightly. I’ve read several of his Civil War books .. .and they are good! If the guy surrounds himself with competent conservatives, He could be a game changer for this country. Incidentally your comments about forgiveness are spot on. None of us can exist a day without God’s forgiveness.


38 posted on 12/05/2011 8:32:39 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: heiss

OK, let’s examine the typical thinking on this forum.

If we round up a million illegal immigrants and send them back, to Mexico, let’s say, what makes you think that the Nation will admit them?

How about two million?

I can hear it now: “Jose’ Who? We have no records.”

When reason finally surfaces you will see that we’re stuck with the big numbers and Newt has the best workable plan.


39 posted on 12/05/2011 8:39:59 AM PST by gortklattu (God knows who is best, everybody else is making guesses - Tony Snow)
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To: gortklattu

This is the “we can’t do it” attitude. This is outright ridiculous. If Mexico (or any other country) starts opposing the policy, we can cancel their visas. They have to take them back. Besides, we can simply push them over the border. Mexico can do whatever they want to these illegals (give them money, deport them to Guatemala, execute them). I don’t care.

In anycase, new illegals will not come here, and many existing ones will go back, if we get serious. Newt is the only one who openly advocates for Amnesty.

I can’t understand why any freeper is pushing for Amnesty. Bush, McCain, Newt. Three amnesty freaks in a row.

Anyway, you are right. Only Newt has open plan (to surrender).


40 posted on 12/05/2011 8:47:43 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (just say no to amnesty))
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To: gortklattu

This is the “we can’t do it” attitude. This is outright ridiculous. If Mexico (or any other country) starts opposing the policy, we can cancel their visas. They have to take them back. Besides, we can simply push them over the border. Mexico can do whatever they want to these illegals (give them money, deport them to Guatemala, execute them). I don’t care.

In anycase, new illegals will not come here, and many existing ones will go back, if we get serious. Newt is the only one who openly advocates for Amnesty.

I can’t understand why any freeper is pushing for Amnesty. Bush, McCain, Newt. Three amnesty freaks in a row.

Anyway, you are right. Only Newt has open plan (to surrender).


41 posted on 12/05/2011 8:47:50 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (just say no to amnesty))
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To: 2nd Amendment
“Strong Christians”? We are not electing a spiritual leader. While a Christian president is a definite plus (as opposed to a Mormon (Romney) or a Muslim (Obama)), I am not going to disqualify a candidate because they were divorced a couple times. Especially one who professes a belief in Christ and has asked for His forgiveness. If Christ can forgive Newt, who am I to count it against him.
42 posted on 12/05/2011 8:50:19 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: RonnG

“There was only one who was perfect. Unfortunately, Reagan is not running.”

Reagan was great man and a great president. But he wasn’t perfect.

There was only one who was perfect, and a bunch of fools nailed HIM to a cross.


43 posted on 12/05/2011 8:55:05 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: ontap

RE: Newt has repented and asked forgiveness, tell your Christian friends to live up Christ’s commandment to forgive and welcome him into the fold!!

_______________________________

Personally, I can give him the benefit of the doubt this time, but he’ll have to earn my trust.

I’ve been burned by politicians too many times before.


44 posted on 12/05/2011 8:57:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: RonnG

RE: There was only one who was perfect. Unfortunately, Reagan is not running.

The man admitted to a lot of mistakes as governor of California, including signing one of the most liberal abortion bills till that time.

Let’s not forget his amnesty of illegals in his second term.

That’s perfect?


45 posted on 12/05/2011 8:59:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
But compare Gingrich to Obama

[sigh}

The GOP will never understand that "We suck less" should not be a campaign platform.

46 posted on 12/05/2011 9:01:08 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the law of Man)
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To: Jemian

RE: But we’ve ended up with the same socialist policies anyway.

Newt a socialist?

Remember when he pushed Clinton to:

1) Sign Welfare Reform ( which Clinton vetoed before ).

2) Sign Capital gains tax cuts.

3) Balance the budget (we had a budget surplus in the 90’s, remember?).

If that’s socialism, I’ll take it over what we have now.


47 posted on 12/05/2011 9:02:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: kidd

Newt is the best of those we now have running. I will support the Republican nominee but it appears at this time that it will be Newt. He leads because they have all stood side by side for comparison and Newt has stood out from and above the group. He is where he is because of his abilities.


48 posted on 12/05/2011 9:04:42 AM PST by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: ScottinVA

Once again we get to vote for the BEST of the worst.

WOOHOO for the GOP and WOOHOO for America!


49 posted on 12/05/2011 9:06:57 AM PST by CSI007
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To: SeekAndFind

This is why we are in the trouble we are in. By taking any old thing compared to what we have. That used to be a phrase to just kick around. Now people actually take it seriously instead of seriously finding and electing the best candidate.


50 posted on 12/05/2011 9:07:17 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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