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Electric car maker Aptera closes its doors
AP ^ | 12/03/2011 | Dee-Ann Durbin

Posted on 12/05/2011 7:42:35 AM PST by Abathar

Electric car maker Aptera Motors is closing after failing to woo enough investors to bring a new sedan to market.

Aptera CEO Paul Wilbur said the Carlsbad, Calif.-based company closed its doors Friday and laid off all 30 of its employees.

The company was hoping to get a $150 million loan from the Department of Energy but needed to raise matching funds, Wilbur said. He said Aptera had trouble drumming up interest from investors, who have been spooked by the difficulties other small electric car makers have had. Palo Alto, Calif.-based Tesla Motors Inc., for example, has racked up millions of dollars in losses as it prepares to bring its electric Model S sedan to market in mid-2012.

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KEYWORDS: aptera; auto; automobiles; doemoney; economy; green; greencars; greenenergy; pipedream; thegreenlie
""concentrated on building a four-door electric sedan that would get the equivalent of 190 miles per gallon of gas. By comparison, the electric Nissan Leaf is rated at 99 mpg.""

Well, good luck with that...

1 posted on 12/05/2011 7:42:41 AM PST by Abathar
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To: Abathar

This was their 3-wheeled prototype vehicle. They better put a red flag on the back of that thing, a biker could put his eye out.

2 posted on 12/05/2011 7:47:39 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Why didn’t they call it the “Sperm”?


3 posted on 12/05/2011 7:50:20 AM PST by digger48
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To: Abathar; martin_fierro
Palo Alto, Calif.-based Tesla Motors Inc., for example, has racked up millions of dollars in losses as it prepares to bring its electric Model S sedan to market in mid-2012.

The Tesla factory is right down I-880 from Solyndra.

4 posted on 12/05/2011 7:50:28 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Abathar

Dumb.


5 posted on 12/05/2011 7:50:28 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Abathar
The company was hoping to get a $150 million loan from the Department of Energy

Correction. It was scheming to pilfer 150 million dollars from the American taxpayers.

6 posted on 12/05/2011 7:50:37 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Abathar
Speaking of the Leaf's range, one may wish to read this article.
7 posted on 12/05/2011 7:51:00 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Abathar
They are selling something that nobody wants. Once the prospect of endless Obama money dried up all these “green” companies will be going away.
8 posted on 12/05/2011 7:51:28 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Texas Eagle
"Correction. It was scheming to pilfer 150 million dollars from the American taxpayers."

Precisely.

9 posted on 12/05/2011 7:53:14 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar
Fuller Dymaxion Redux

Designer-genius R. Buckminster Fuller was one of the century's great nutjobs, a walking unorthodoxy who originally conceived of the Dymaxion as a flying automobile, or drivable plane, with jet engines and inflatable wings.

It would be one link in his vaguely totalitarian plan for the people to live in mass-produced houses deposited on the landscape by dirigibles.

Okayyyy...Deprived of wings, the Dymaxion was a three-wheel, ground-bound zeppelin, with a huge levered A-arm carrying the rear wheel, which swiveled like the tail wheel of an airplane. The first prototype had a wicked death wobble in the rear wheel.

The next two Dymaxions were bigger, heavier, and only marginally more drivable. The third car had a stabilizer fin on top, which did nothing to cure the Dymaxion's acute instability in crosswinds.

A fatal accident involving the car — cause unknown — doomed its public acceptance.

Though unworkable, this three-wheeled suppository was the boldest of a series of futuristic, rear-engined cars of the 1930s, including the Tatra, the Highway Aircraft Corporation's "Fascination" car and, everybody's favorite, the Nazi's KdF-wagen.

History Repeating

10 posted on 12/05/2011 7:54:46 AM PST by spokeshave (Cain....100% American, 100% Black and 100% for the Constitution...999 an added benefit.)
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To: Abathar

Aptera few months,
Green always turns Brown.


11 posted on 12/05/2011 7:55:10 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: Red Badger

Ping.


12 posted on 12/05/2011 7:55:56 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: digger48

Not just the looks.....the taxpayers were going to get screwed.


13 posted on 12/05/2011 7:57:20 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: GonzoGOP
Once the prospect of endless Obama money dried up all these “green” companies will be going away.

Yeah. and so will a lot of our "obamamoney".

14 posted on 12/05/2011 7:58:35 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Abathar

But, but...........aren’t we supposed to be liberal? Aren’t we supposed to want clean green energy, and clean green cars? Isn’t Obama creating clean green jobs, by subsidizing clean green companies???????

Or look at another way, isn’t it evil capitalism which is causing this company to fail, and aren’t we supposed to hate evil capitalism? So aren’t we supposed to subsidize this company so they can give us what is good for us (tiny electric car) rather than a vehicle we really want???

Do they still have Trabants in the former East Germany? I wonder if those people loved that little proletarian car produced by their people’s republic??????????


15 posted on 12/05/2011 7:58:47 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Abathar

The classic Morgan three-wheeler is a much more handsome car than that pile of rubbish.


16 posted on 12/05/2011 7:58:52 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Abathar; Texas Eagle

The problem is not that they wanted to steal, the problem is that they didn’t want to steal.

Had they requested a billion and kicked half of it back there would be no problem.

They were non union to boot


17 posted on 12/05/2011 8:00:12 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: bert
Electric car maker Aptera closes its doors

Aptera, ha ha ha. It's wings have been clipped.
18 posted on 12/05/2011 8:03:39 AM PST by aruanan
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To: GonzoGOP

Obama’s green jobs scam was just to get money in the pockets of his friends, remember all those green jobs speeches, scam , scam ,scam


19 posted on 12/05/2011 8:09:56 AM PST by molson209
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To: Abathar
The company was hoping to get a $150 million loan from the Department of Energy but needed to raise matching funds, Wilbur said

Whew, the taxpayers squeaked past that one.

20 posted on 12/05/2011 8:10:17 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Army Air Corps

No one seems to discuss the litigation from personal injury and wrongful death these cars will generate. Put this thing against a non-ecofriendly MAC truck and you’ll have no survivors in these electric cars.


21 posted on 12/05/2011 8:10:40 AM PST by ccwman
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To: digger48
Why didn’t they call it the “Sperm”?

Yeah, it does look like a sperm cell with landing gear.

My second impression was "Who ya gonna call?..."

22 posted on 12/05/2011 8:11:27 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Abathar

The founder simply didn’t grease enough Dem palms with campaign contributions. Otherwise he would have landed the $150M easy as pie.


23 posted on 12/05/2011 8:13:14 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Abathar

It better come with a trailer hitch because it won’t hold Mom, Junior, Junior’s 6 baseball buddies, their baseball equipment, a cooler, a tray of homemade cookies, Lil Missy and her bff, and Rover inside that thing.


24 posted on 12/05/2011 8:15:33 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Abathar

Electric cars are a tyrant’s dream....Limited range, and all he has to do is flip a switch to turn off the grid and any revolt is over because folks can’t move.


25 posted on 12/05/2011 8:16:51 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: Abathar
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26 posted on 12/05/2011 8:19:15 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Under Construction)
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To: Jeff Chandler

27 posted on 12/05/2011 8:23:12 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Under Construction)
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To: spokeshave

28 posted on 12/05/2011 8:27:06 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Under Construction)
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To: Army Air Corps

To bee or not to bee, that is the question...........................


29 posted on 12/05/2011 8:30:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: bgill

Our family owns a Yukon 2 dr 4X4, a Yukon 4 dr 4x4 and my Suburban 4x4. We simply grab which vehicle that will suit our needs at the time and it works out great. Like my machine tools here at work, you can always do a small job on a big machine, but not vice-verse.

And yes, all of them have a Reese Hitch that gets well used also.


30 posted on 12/05/2011 8:35:58 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

I guess it is only Government that invests in the PAST. Maybe the race to the 18th century is slowing down??


31 posted on 12/05/2011 8:35:58 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: digger48; Abathar

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aptera_(genus)&action=edit&redlink=1

Aptera (genus), a genus of cockroaches..................


32 posted on 12/05/2011 8:36:13 AM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: Abathar

Even in the UK, a country that has drunk a lot more of the green kool aid than we have, the guys from Top Gear could not find any places to plug one in for a recharge.


33 posted on 12/05/2011 8:37:42 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: spokeshave

I met Bucky and spoke with him a few times. I suppose DaVinci was thought of as a nutjob too, as I’ve always thought of Fuller as the unappreciated Leonardo of our age.

His low-cost, icosahedral designs - one frequency geodesics - could actually be ‘flown in’ to relieve suffering in disaster areas. They WERE flown to the arctic and formed the ‘DEW Line’.

I like your other description: “a walking unorthodoxy”, very apt for him. He invested his own personal fortune in the Dymaxion car...this was in 1933!
I admired him greatly.


34 posted on 12/05/2011 8:44:16 AM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I love that show! Got hooked a couple of months ago and now try to catch it instead of watching Shepard Smith get his panties in a twist over something or other.


35 posted on 12/05/2011 8:44:48 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

considering they don’t make any new ones, (not the lame wussified us version but the UK version with the three egomaniacs) [though i must confess their trips to the usa and insults do not sit well for the ongoing ugly european stereotype] I is a decent car show. particularly when they rip a car to reveiwer shreads.


36 posted on 12/05/2011 9:00:10 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: spokeshave
Fuller Dymaxion Redux

I about fell over when I saw that he was doing a Honda add some time ago. No way would I want him endorsing any product.

37 posted on 12/05/2011 9:11:14 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: spankalib
I met Bucky and spoke with him a few times - Awesome! how did this occur? I'd like to know.

I've read about him, his life and ideas and to me he is one of those inventors that embodied inventing. Everyone dreams, only a rare few risk it all to take the next steps.

38 posted on 12/05/2011 9:19:04 AM PST by NativeSon
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To: SENTINEL
Electric cars are a tyrant’s dream.... and when you add the "smart grid" technology they are so smitten with you being to think that someone out there really wants to control where and how far you go as well as where and how far you can go.
39 posted on 12/05/2011 9:27:59 AM PST by NativeSon
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To: All; Abathar
I'm sorry to see this, primarily because it was a local company.

I guess it'll live on in 2009's "Star Trek" film where it made an appearance at Star Fleet Academy.

40 posted on 12/05/2011 9:30:41 AM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: longtermmemmory
"Correction. It was scheming to pilfer 150 million dollars from the American taxpayers."

That's the best part of the show, ripping a $300k car to bits and then telling the audience they would rather drive a $30k car than that one.

I bet the BBC got a lot of very angry calls after some of their shows.

41 posted on 12/05/2011 9:56:33 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar
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42 posted on 12/05/2011 9:58:52 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Jeff Chandler
It's as if Citroen decided to design a Tatra but Goodyear got in on the act at the last minute.

Sort of like the Oscar Mayer Weinermobile, but weirder. The Weinermobile just looks like a big fiberglass weiner on top of a 1970 Chevy Caprice, pretty much. The Dymaxion intended to be the weinerVery holistic, lol.

I've long admired Buckminster Fuller, but anyone who is that outside the box is going to have a few questionable moments. This is one of them.

43 posted on 12/05/2011 10:15:55 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: cynwoody
NASCAR Daytonia Race, February 2013
44 posted on 12/05/2011 10:39:47 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: Jeff Chandler

The UK “Top Gear” episode with Clarkson doing the Reliant Robin tribute show was hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8


45 posted on 12/05/2011 11:41:22 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

ROTFLMBO!


46 posted on 12/05/2011 12:14:49 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Under Construction)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The UK “Top Gear” episode with Clarkson doing the Reliant Robin tribute show was hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8

It seems the one in front, two in back tilt problem has been solved, as Jeremy demonstrates:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb-MIuXTlEs

47 posted on 12/05/2011 1:15:47 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: WOBBLY BOB
The UK “Top Gear” episode with Clarkson doing the Reliant Robin tribute show was hilarious.

Top Gear rarely gets accused of being subtle, but I loved the bit where Jeremy declared he was going to drive a Reliant Robin from Sheffield to Rotheram ... a distance of 15 miles; and the camera pulls back and you see he's been illustrating this on a map of the major roads of Europe, approx 30' long and 10' high.

On American TG that annoying voice over guy would be explaining, in detail, why that was funny.

48 posted on 12/05/2011 2:45:39 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: NativeSon

I first met him in 1973, at USC, after I hitched with a buddy across the country to see him. He took the time to speak kindly with me. I still remember his big blue eyes magnified through his thick glasses, and his warm, strong, sailor’s hand handshake.
1974, again, in Philadelphia, same greeting. A gracious and humble man. Later, the last time I saw him, in San Marcos, Texas.

In every encounter, it was after he had been speaking for several HOURS extemporaneously, without notes, to exhaustion! – He was in his late 70’s by then, in fact, that last time, his ‘handlers’ gently had to stop him, and help him off the dais.

I often say I stand on the shoulders of GIANTS, who, in turn, sit like little children on the shoulders of the giant-MAKER. I like to think he would have appreciated it said that way. (He was a poet, too.)

One of my most treasured possessions is a book signed by him to (my name) “in friendship”…it’s falling apart. I took it everywhere with me! Going to have to get it re-bound one of these days ;)

You might like this site:
http://www-sul.stanford.edu/depts/spc/fuller/index.html
Somewhere in there is an old video of the SoCal speech…I couldn’t find it, but saw it a few years ago. (I was on the floor, in front, near stage left – you better believe I was looking for 19-year-old “me”! Maybe it’s a good thing it was taken from the other side of the auditorium, haha!)

I picked out a few highlights from that site, notice especially the one from 1982:

1915 Bucky is expelled from Harvard for the second and final time. Administration cites “lack of ambition.” (given his subsequent achievements, seems that Harvard’s snooty condescension is not such a recent phenomenon)
1917 Bucky enlists in the U.S. Navy Reserve. He volunteers his family’s cabin cruiser, with a crew of six including his brother Wolly and best friend Lincoln Pierce, to patrol the Maine shoreline.
1918 Fuller attends the U.S. Naval Academy for a 3-month short training course and is promoted to Lieutenant J.G.
1922 Alexandra (his firstborn) dies, leaving Bucky with an extreme sense of tragedy that he wasn’t able to provide her with a better shelter. (few understand the strength of character - brings tears to my eyes to think about - to harness such sorrow, yet it explains a lot about the man)
1927 (after the failure of a company he founded) Considering himself a complete failure, Fuller seriously contemplates taking his life. Instead, he vows to use his life an experiment aimed at discovering what an average, healthy individual (albeit penniless and with a family to support) can do in service of all humanity. He enters a period of deep introspection, absorbed in study and meditation, speaking to almost nobody for two years. His second daughter, Allegra, is born

1940 Fuller works with the Butler Manufacturing Company of Kansas City to develop Dymaxion Deployment Units, low-cost shelters built from Butler’s metal grain bins. The units are used by the military during WWII to house equipment and troops in rural, isolated locations.
1946 Bucky is awarded a patent for his Dymaxion Air-Ocean Map, which is considerably less distorted than traditional map projections. (a cut-up icosahedron, showing the true over-the-north-pole proximity between the major world populations)
1954 Fuller receives patent for geodesic domes. The Marine Corps experiments successfully with airlifting and delivery of small geodesic shelter domes by helicopter.
1975 Synergetics, the result of decades of exploration into an alternate mathematical coordinate system, is published (related to nano-tech, superconductivity, and in chemistry, 60-carbon atoms: “buckyballs”)

1982 Fuller receives the Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian award, from President Ronald Reagan.

1983 Fuller dies on July 1, 1983 in Los Angeles, while visiting his comatose wife, Anne, in the hospital. Anne never wakes from the coma and dies 36 hours later. (in a few more days, they would have celebrated their 66th anniversary!)


49 posted on 12/05/2011 3:15:59 PM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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