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Iowa soldiers win Army award for their invention
Radio Iowa ^ | 12.3.11 | Dar Danielson

Posted on 12/05/2011 8:27:27 AM PST by Free Vulcan

Sergeant Winkowski says they didn’t have an ammo carrier to lug the extra bullets and there was a lull when they had to reload. He says they’d seen ammo carriers in movies and decided to gather up some spare parts to build their own. They took an old rucksack frame and stripped it down, welded together a couple of ammo cans and added a speed loading shoot.

“We took it out to the range and gave it some testing and it worked out pretty good for us,” Winkowski says, “And so we took it into combat, and we got into a big huge fight where we again were outnumbered, surrounded, and it worked out great for us. So right then we new we had something pretty special.”

Winkowski grew up in Bell Plaine and McNew in Reinbeck where both did some work on farms. The sergeant says that background led them to build something they could use in their jobs as soldiers. “You know, call it Iowa problem solving or whatever you want to call it, but absolutely that was kind of the drive behind this, we were constantly trying to make things better,” Winkowski said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammocarrier; army; award; banglist; gun; military; soldier
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In Iowa, if we don't have it and we can't get it, we just make it - American style.
1 posted on 12/05/2011 8:27:34 AM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: Free Vulcan

Love it. This is the kind of ingenuity and “can do” spirit that made the USA great.


2 posted on 12/05/2011 8:32:12 AM PST by Any Fate But Submission
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To: Free Vulcan

I bet Obama is pissed.


3 posted on 12/05/2011 8:33:46 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Joe Brower; bang_list
Winkowski and his two partners are pleased to see their invention helping other soldiers, but more importantly he says it’s good to see the impact the system has on the enemy. “And I think it’s gonna make a huge impact on their mindset when they are engaging U.S. forces with these system and they are coming up against basically a wall of lead because the tremendous firepower these systems can now give machine gunners,” he said.

The carrier system allows a machine gunner to fire up to 500 rounds of linked ammunition.

A story to warm the hearts of gun enthusiasts everywhere.

4 posted on 12/05/2011 8:34:33 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Free Vulcan

What is a speed loading shoot?


5 posted on 12/05/2011 8:35:49 AM PST by csmusaret (The only borders Obama has closed is a bookstore.)
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To: Free Vulcan

I have not seen it but what comes to mind is the cans they used in the Matrix movies for the walking gun carriages.


6 posted on 12/05/2011 8:37:35 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: csmusaret

Like a flexible ammo feed chute, only different....


7 posted on 12/05/2011 8:39:44 AM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: csmusaret
What is a speed loading shoot?

Might have meant "chute" instead of "shoot."

8 posted on 12/05/2011 8:40:22 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Free Vulcan

Yes, Iowa ingenuity. Can’t tell you the number of times I watched my Dad and my Uncles make a piece of dead equipment work again. But, at that time, I thought all men had this talent.


9 posted on 12/05/2011 8:40:55 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: csmusaret

probably meant a speed loading “chute”


10 posted on 12/05/2011 8:41:02 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: Free Vulcan

Necessity is the Mother of invention!


11 posted on 12/05/2011 8:45:23 AM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: CIDKauf

Army is going to need a lot more than that to beat Navy this weekend.


12 posted on 12/05/2011 8:46:32 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: RoosterRedux
Yes look at this sentence: So right then we new we had something pretty special.

Uses new instead of knew. I think whoever wrote this story is illiterate.

I think we can safely assume it wasn't one of the Iowa boys writing it.

13 posted on 12/05/2011 8:46:36 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: Free Vulcan

“...where both did some work on farms.”

When give a choice, ‘farm-kid’ gets the nod everytime. I’ve worked with a wide swath of humanity and farm-kids are the hardest working and creative workers who generally have no use for emotional drama.


14 posted on 12/05/2011 8:47:03 AM PST by mad puppy (Spare me your line of crap...I'm voting for Newt.)
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“It’s a cluster ...k. Marines shouldn’t be sitting around filling out forms for equipment they should already have.”

Gunny Hiway.


15 posted on 12/05/2011 8:55:44 AM PST by white17x
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To: Free Vulcan

There’s a little monthly magazine just for this stuff, Farm Show. Its just stuffed full of this kind of things, some not so good and some great, but all interesting.

This thought process must come from all day row crop farming and all winter with not much to do.

Whatever its called or caused by, its great!


16 posted on 12/05/2011 9:00:44 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: CIDKauf

...and MacGyver is the father!


17 posted on 12/05/2011 9:02:38 AM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Free Vulcan

See my next post for another invention that done on the field of Afghanistan.


18 posted on 12/05/2011 9:17:17 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Free Vulcan

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/outside-the-wire/2011/10/20/iowa-guard-makes-predator-like-ammo-pack/


19 posted on 12/05/2011 9:17:24 AM PST by A. Morgan (Ayn Rand: "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: Free Vulcan

Good hi-res picture here: http://www.ng.mil/news/archives/2011/12/images/120211-Iowa-full.jpg


20 posted on 12/05/2011 9:20:01 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Free Vulcan

Looks like they've been watching Predator, Terminator, etc.

It's a continuous feed device for what looks like a SAW.

21 posted on 12/05/2011 9:21:01 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Free Vulcan

I have two of these backpacks and they are great!

Sucking water sucks.

This thing will spray the water into yer parched throat, clean up a small hazmat spill or irrigate a wound.

Luv it!

http://www.geigerrig.com/index.html


22 posted on 12/05/2011 9:22:36 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: USMCPOP
Thank you! I posted a small one. Here's the large one:


23 posted on 12/05/2011 9:23:04 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: mad puppy

We farmboys were raised by fathers/grandfathers who knew how to repair equipment creatively with the materials/tools on hand. You work hard and fast and learn quickly that temper tantrums do nothing useful.


24 posted on 12/05/2011 9:23:10 AM PST by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: Free Vulcan

“Sergeant Winkowski says they didn’t have an ammo carrier to lug the extra bullets and there was a lull when they had to reload.”

If they weren’t so anti-life, anti-American and anti-gun, Big Media would have taught their reporters and editors by now that you don’t load bullets into a gun.


25 posted on 12/05/2011 9:26:28 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Free Vulcan
Looks like someone had already built one. They just aren't getting them into the field:

http://www.tyrtactical.com/products/details/backpacks/mico-light-and-heavy-machine-gunners-assault-pack/

It's not cheap: $4,000.

26 posted on 12/05/2011 9:28:14 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Free Vulcan

“Sergeant Winkowski says they didn’t have an ammo carrier to lug the extra bullets and there was a lull when they had to reload.”

No, Dar. Sergeant Winkowski did not say this.


27 posted on 12/05/2011 9:30:41 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: stefanbatory

http://www.grouchyconservativepundits.org/index.php?topic=37307.0

More info with cool pics.


28 posted on 12/05/2011 9:32:14 AM PST by XXXoholic
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Looks like a fun rig for some weekend shooting. $;-)

The big pic has me scratching my head a bit -- the MG the soldier is carrying looks like a SAW, but the rounds in the feed belt appear to be .308. Are M240s being issued with SAW-type forends?

7.62 would make more sense in another way: The belt-chute for that caliber could readily be scavenged from minigun systems; I don't know of any such assembly for the smaller .5.56 round.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

29 posted on 12/05/2011 9:35:16 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Free Vulcan
Very well done, Sergeant Winkowski,
I am forced to admit that there is now one excellent light infantry device that the US Marines did not invent, and should rapidly adopt.
TWB
30 posted on 12/05/2011 9:43:29 AM PST by TWhiteBear (Jobs, Peace, Food, Security .... Down with Obama(Peacefully))
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping!


31 posted on 12/05/2011 9:49:32 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Free Vulcan
Now they need one to feed shotgun shells for urban combat.
32 posted on 12/05/2011 9:50:19 AM PST by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: Free Vulcan

I want one.


33 posted on 12/05/2011 11:41:36 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: csmusaret

No spelling skillz, or spellcheck fail?


34 posted on 12/05/2011 11:44:26 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Free Vulcan
"In Iowa, if we don't have it and we can't get it, we just make it - American style."

Has more to do with "farm boys" and rural work/innovation ethic than Iowa, per se.

35 posted on 12/05/2011 12:31:12 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: w1andsodidwe
Uses new instead of knew. I think whoever wrote this story is illiterate.

Sadly, that's what's become passable from our nation's universities. Is it any wonder we're on the decline?

36 posted on 12/05/2011 12:58:04 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Any Fate But Submission

It’s reminiscent of Churchill and the tank, and the GI who suggested during the Normandy invasion that the put dozer blades on tanks to deal with the hedgerows.


37 posted on 12/05/2011 1:02:15 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: nuke rocketeer

Several years ago one of those ‘farm-boys’ I worked with told me a very telling story. He lived 10 (ish) miles from town and had a date with a particular gal who lived there. Before and after school he got his list done, got all cleaned up, jumped into his truck and nothing... Don’t recall what failed, but it was dead. He called his dad who was still working, desperate for options, and got a little help with diagnosis, but that was it. He apparently canabalized one of the tractors and rigged his ride. The truck sounded like crap and would only go about 20 mph, so he was late. When he got home his old man about killed him and he was up a few more hours putting the tractor back together.

The only thing he’d say about the date of 20+ years ago, was that his girl friend was impressed with the effort he’d gone to, and to that day, he claimed it was the best date of his life. He told that story to about 5 of us, all of which were laughing so hard we hurt.


38 posted on 12/05/2011 1:14:40 PM PST by mad puppy (Spare me your line of crap...I'm voting for Newt.)
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To: Free Vulcan

PING FOR LATER


39 posted on 12/05/2011 1:23:11 PM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: nuke rocketeer
"You work hard and fast and learn quickly that temper tantrums do nothing useful."

I don't know about that. Dealing with recalcitrant farm equipment can give one a real edge up on creative invective.

40 posted on 12/05/2011 2:31:14 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: justlurking

“Looks like they’ve been watching Predator...”

I thought that, too. Now if they’d put some thought into a man-portable minigun...


41 posted on 12/05/2011 2:39:42 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: justlurking

War is rough on clothing.


42 posted on 12/05/2011 3:42:42 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Joe Brower
The big pic has me scratching my head a bit -- the MG the soldier is carrying looks like a SAW, but the rounds in the feed belt appear to be .308. Are M240s being issued with SAW-type forends?

Not so far as I know, though Barrett has been product-improving both the M240 and the M249, and they may have come up with something along those lines. But what you're really looking for is the Navy Mark 48.

7.62 would make more sense in another way: The belt-chute for that caliber could readily be scavenged from minigun systems; I don't know of any such assembly for the smaller .5.56 round.

You must not be familiar with the XM124 *six-pack.*

43 posted on 12/05/2011 3:44:25 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: AmericanVictory
GI who suggested during the Normandy invasion that the put dozer blades on tanks to deal with the hedgerows.

That would be the Second Armored Division's Sgt. Curtis Grubb Culin, III, from New Jersey.

He got the Legion of Merit for the *Culin Hedgerow device*- not exactly a dozer blade- and lost a leg to a boobytrapped mine about four months after the Normandy landing. After the war, he went to work for Western Electric/ Bell Laboratories, where for a short period, my granddad was his supervisor.


44 posted on 12/05/2011 3:52:11 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: archy
Fascinating. Thank you. I had heard about him and his device from an inventor I have worked with but did not have the privilege of seeing the actual device.

I believe that it is a rare person in command who has the ability to recognize a good idea coming from persons of far lower rank and then seeing that the idea is brought to fruition.

I had the great privilege of working with one who did and it was the sidewinder, one of the greatest in-house developments of a game-changing idea ever. We have such ideas surfacing still. What is lacking is the gift of those in command to recognize the better, breakthrough ideas. Instead we have the likes of the One and Chu pushing the Solyndras of the world and the bullet trains to bannkruptcy, as Governor Palin has accurately termed them, a sure path to defeat in the present situation.

45 posted on 12/05/2011 4:03:44 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Better to lay on the hands rather than to lay on the words. Doing both can be effective too.


46 posted on 12/05/2011 5:00:45 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
"Doing both can be effective too."

Which, of course, is what I had in mind.....:^).

Heck, my mother could out-swear (and outshoot) most lumberjacks. Five-foot nothing, elementary school teacher. Cross her at your own risk.

47 posted on 12/05/2011 5:25:55 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: AmericanVictory

Do you mean the AIM 9-X Sidewinder missile?


48 posted on 12/05/2011 7:51:16 PM PST by wastedyears (Not too long you devious little parathyroid. Soon I'll be rid of you and I'll be free.)
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To: wastedyears

Yes


49 posted on 12/06/2011 6:25:54 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: wastedyears

Yes


50 posted on 12/06/2011 6:26:36 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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