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FAA Administrator Arrested For DUI
Av Web ^ | Dec 5, 2011 | Glenn Pew

Posted on 12/05/2011 1:47:41 PM PST by KeyLargo

FAA Administrator Arrested For DUI

December 5, 2011 By Glenn Pew, Contributing Editor, Video Editor

Randy Babbitt, administrator of the FAA, was taken into custody Saturday by Fairfax County police and charged with driving while intoxicated, local news has reported. At about 10:30 p.m. Babbitt was seen driving on the wrong side of the road and was pulled over. He was alone in the car at the time and no accident related to the incident has been reported.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: babbitt; drunk; dui; faa
Obama picks Randy Babbitt for FAA chief Fri, Mar 27 2009

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama will nominate former pilots' union chief Randy Babbitt to head the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the White House said on Friday.

Babbitt, a consultant who led the Air Line Pilots Association in the 1990s, would become the top safety regulator of passenger and cargo airlines.

He would also be responsible for management of the sprawling U.S. air traffic control network.

The FAA is responsible for coordinating air space for more than 30,000 commercial flights per day.

(Reporting by Jeff Mason and John Crawley)


1 posted on 12/05/2011 1:47:53 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
He was alone in the car at the time and no accident related to the incident has been reported.

Well, in that case, he'll get a free pass on this one.... Where's MADD when you need them?

2 posted on 12/05/2011 1:50:52 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: KeyLargo; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...

AVITION PING


3 posted on 12/05/2011 1:51:16 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: clee1

“He has aggressively tackled the problem of pilots who fly under the influence and recently held a press event with Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, NBC’s Tom Costello reported.”

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/05/9226325-updated-head-of-faa-placed-on-leave-after-dwi-charge


4 posted on 12/05/2011 1:57:50 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: clee1
Well, in that case, he'll get a free pass on this one.... Where's MADD when you need them?

No, he won't. There are mandatory sentencing standards for this, the only "crime" it is possible to commit for which there is no defense and you are guilty until proven innocent.

MADD serves no useful purpose. The "M" stands for "mothers" and there aren't any actual or potential ones in the leadership of that particular liberty-restriction group

5 posted on 12/05/2011 2:01:33 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: clee1

“In 1985, he was chosen as the union’s executive administrator, which called for assisting the president of ALPA in a wide range of areas, including administering staff departments, acting as liaison between the national office and membership councils and pilot committees, and troubleshooting collective bargaining situations. Babbitt was in this position when Eastern Airlines went on strike in 1989—which resulted in 3,000 employees losing their jobs to replacement workers hired by the airline. Some of the fired pilots filed a class action lawsuit against the union on grounds that it failed to pursue other jobs for them.

In 1990, Babbitt was elected president and CEO of the union, serving two terms. The following year he publicly slammed the federal government’s deregulation of the airline industry, claiming the move had sent it into a “nosedive” and cost too many jobs. He also publicly criticized Samuel Skinner, secretary of transportation under President George H. W. Bush, and the FAA for failing to upgrade the nation’s air traffic control system.

In 1992, he convinced the airline pilots union to endorse Bill Clinton for president—after decades of the union standing on the sidelines during presidential races.

Six years later, Babbitt backed the decision by pilots of Northwest Airlines to go on strike, which lasted 13 days, the longest strike of its kind since 1989. The strike was the last that Babbitt oversaw as head of the union because he stepped down at the end of 1998.”

http://www.allgov.com/Official/Babbitt_J_Randolph


6 posted on 12/05/2011 2:02:25 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Oh no... who’s overseeing the pilots to make sure they aren’t drunk when flying now? /s


7 posted on 12/05/2011 2:02:25 PM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car - he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: KeyLargo

Oh no... who’s overseeing the pilots to make sure they aren’t drunk when flying now? /s


8 posted on 12/05/2011 2:02:39 PM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car - he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: KeyLargo
That's Randy buh-dee-buh-dee-buh-dee-Babbit.
9 posted on 12/05/2011 2:25:49 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: KeyLargo

I’m not going to be popular for saying this but the DUI laws are too strict. Who here hasn’t had a few drinks (1-3) then drove home, completely safe?

In my opinion DUI arrests should have to prove the driver was driving in an unsafe manner for them to be prosecuted. I’ve seen much worse driving from people talking on cell phones, programming their GPS, Texting & just plain tired driving than I’ve seen from drunks.


10 posted on 12/05/2011 2:28:45 PM PST by RC51
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To: KeyLargo

“Hey Randy, maybe you need AA”

Randy; “F AA!”


11 posted on 12/05/2011 2:51:35 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: RC51
I’m not going to be popular for saying this but the DUI laws are too strict.

In my opinion, they should create a new category called "attempted manslaughter" and imprison them for 15 years. The behavior is similar to walking into a dark room and firing a handgun randomly until you run out of rounds.

I’ve seen much worse driving from people talking on cell phones, programming their GPS, Texting & just plain tired driving than I’ve seen from drunks.

I don't know about much worse, but certainly very dangerous.

12 posted on 12/05/2011 2:52:23 PM PST by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: KeyLargo

Will his trial include nap times?


13 posted on 12/05/2011 2:53:57 PM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: paudio
I have spent a bunch of time in a past profession trying to herd cats.

If I had to do that all over again, I would stay drunk.

14 posted on 12/05/2011 2:54:08 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: KeyLargo

Randy Babbitt, Belgian Ambassador Gutman and Holder should be removed from their positions immediately..along with everybody else in this evil administration.


15 posted on 12/05/2011 3:24:25 PM PST by cblue55 (It's either America, or Obama. It cannot be both!)
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To: cblue55

Please add Hillary Dillary, Big Sis Nappy, Tax Cheat Geithner, and every other sorry, pathetic Bass in this
disgusting Regime! and lets run George Soros on a Perp Walk into Leavenworth with his Puppet, Obama HUSSEIN, following close on his leash


16 posted on 12/05/2011 3:31:43 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: RC51
"Babbitt was seen driving on the wrong side of the road and was pulled over."

Does driving on the wrong side of the road qualify as "unsafe"???
17 posted on 12/05/2011 3:34:49 PM PST by Enchante
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To: RC51

Psst!: You may have miised the slight fact that the Police pulled the Idiot over only after observing him driving down the wrong side of the street for a significant distance! Should they have waited until the Perp plowed into some innocent family going the right way on the road stone sober?
Obama HUSSEIN put this Idiot in charge of Our FAA to make sure Aviation was as safe as possible! Its clear now, his real qualification under Obama HUSSEIN, is that he is an outspoken former Union Atagonist.


18 posted on 12/05/2011 3:41:11 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: KeyLargo
I think that driving on the wrong side of the road is waaayyyy over the line (literally and figuratively).

The FAA (correctly IMHO) takes a stern view of DUIs, and it's bad juju to omit any info on them from the FAA medical form.

Mister Babbitt, one suspects, is deservedly the object of much derisive humor in pilots' lounges all across this fine nation.

.

19 posted on 12/05/2011 3:41:48 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: RC51
I’m not going to be popular for saying this but the DUI laws are too strict. Who here hasn’t had a few drinks (1-3) then drove home, completely safe?

I agree with you there but this particular guy was pulled over while driving on the wrong side of the road. He'll have his day in court but it would appear that slightly more than 1-3 drinks were involved here.

Drunk driving is definitely a serious offense but like you, I feel that the laws have gotten too strict and that many law-abiding citizens are getting caught up in the maw of the criminal justice system on account of having a drink or two at dinner. How many of us (who drink) have gotten behind the wheel of a car after having the 24-oz Foster's lager at The Outback or maybe a couple Patron Silver margaritas at the local Mexican joint? What about the after work get-together where most everybody has a beer or two before heading home for the day? Nobody in those instances are guilty of "drunk" driving but they do risk the misfortune of getting caught up in a DUI roadblock or maybe a minor fender bender in which the responding officer asks the fateful question: "Have you been drinking tonight?" Even if you tell the officer that you only had a drink or two at dinner, you can kiss your life as you know it goodbye. For at that point, the officer is obligated to take you in, regardless of whether or not you pass the field sobriety tests. No police officer is going to just let you drive away after you just admitted to having a drink - even if it was truly one drink.

On the other side of the coin, you have the genuine drunk driver. Those are the ones weaving all over the road, driving with their headlights off, taking turns too sharp and running over a curb, etc. These are the ones that are a danger to themselves and others and we don't need to setup unconstitutional roadblocks to catch them.

20 posted on 12/05/2011 3:51:47 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 58 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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To: SamAdams76

Yep! You are right on that! Just one or two Beers or one Martini puts You over the .08% Treshold! Then You are Guilty
until proven Innocent if ever possible. But this guy had a position of Trust and Responsibilty for Hundreds of Millions of Air Travelers and their Safety and the Responsibility of assuring our Commercial and Private Pilots are the Safest that are Humanly Possible and driving down the wrong side of the road isn’t caused by the one or two drinks during dinner or a ball game! Guessing he was registered at a .25 or higher!! Pathetic!! :-(!


21 posted on 12/05/2011 4:11:18 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: Egon
"The behavior is similar to walking into a dark room and firing a handgun randomly until you run out of rounds."

If an opinion can be wrong, this would be a perfect example. However, you have a reason to feel so strongly, and for that I am sorry.

22 posted on 12/05/2011 5:15:17 PM PST by OnAMission
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To: Ken H

Are you possibly referring to or thinking of Bruce Babbit?


23 posted on 12/05/2011 5:58:32 PM PST by chooseascreennamepat (When every candidate is running in last place, everyone is in first place.)
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To: Ken H

Are you possibly referring to or thinking of Bruce Babbit?


24 posted on 12/05/2011 5:58:32 PM PST by chooseascreennamepat (When every candidate is running in last place, everyone is in first place.)
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To: OnAMission
If an opinion can be wrong, this would be a perfect example. However, you have a reason to feel so strongly, and for that I am sorry.

The guy was driving on the wrong side of the road. That's pretty damn dangerous.
25 posted on 12/05/2011 7:23:51 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Enchante
Maybe he was just taxiing down the centerline....

"Babbitt was seen driving on the wrong side of the road and was pulled over."

26 posted on 12/05/2011 8:00:10 PM PST by XHogPilot (I fear for our US Constitution and the nation of citizens it protects.)
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To: True Republican Patriot; SamAdams76

I agree the laws are too strict, and the legal limit is too low. The original legal limit of 0.15% was more reasonable.


27 posted on 12/06/2011 12:43:04 AM PST by madmaximus (Mickey Mouse/Donald Duck 2012 Yes we can!!!)
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To: madmaximus

But to the topic at hand, I only hope this guy gets the punishment a taxpayer would for the same offenses. And driving on the wrong side of the road is pretty reckless, shouldn’t that also qualify as “reckless endangerment”?


28 posted on 12/06/2011 12:45:23 AM PST by madmaximus (Mickey Mouse/Donald Duck 2012 Yes we can!!!)
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To: elkfersupper
No, he won't. There are mandatory sentencing standards for this, the only "crime" it is possible to commit for which there is no defense and you are guilty until proven innocent.

DUI...the BIGGEST MONEY MAKER in law enforcement.......40 plus years ago, cops would follow you home if you had a drink or two, and were stopped...UNTIL...the legal system found out how much money was in "drunk driving"..

as for driving on the other side of the road..his left tire was probably on the centerline..not advocating DD in anyway here...just follow the money...

29 posted on 12/06/2011 1:38:56 AM PST by sternup
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To: OnAMission
If an opinion can be wrong, this would be a perfect example. However, you have a reason to feel so strongly, and for that I am sorry.

No reason to apologize, and my strong feelings on the matter don't affect my analogy's accuracy one way or the other.

My thinking is this: A car, in the wrong hands, is every bit as dangerous a weapon as a handgun. When a man (speaking generally) drives to a bar with the intention of getting plastered and driving home, he knows he's risking the lives of himself and every other driver or pedestrian between the bar and his destination. He knows it. He's simply playing the odds.

This, in my mind, is no different than walking into a dark room and firing blindly. Chances are, the room is empty. Even if it's not, bullets follow a pretty specific trajectory, and the odds of hitting someone in the room are relatively remote. But, you know the gun is loaded, and you know there is a distinct chance you might hit someone-- and yet you consciously choose to fire into that room.

As it happens, I spent a majority of my formative years living in a small town that is the government seat of a county that holds the dubious honor of vying for the highest per capita rate of alcoholics in the nation-- with more bars than churches. I've had several friends killed by drunk drivers, and a few that killed themselves while drunk.

This may make my feelings on the subject stronger, but I don't believe it proves or disproves my analogy in the slightest.

One is a case of firing a loaded weapon, the other a case of driving a weapon while loaded.

30 posted on 12/06/2011 5:40:57 AM PST by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: sternup

“DUI...the BIGGEST MONEY MAKER in law enforcement.......40 plus years ago, cops would follow you home if you had a drink or two, and were stopped...UNTIL...the legal system found out how much money was in “drunk driving”.”

I worked in the criminal justice system 40 years ago and when the dui laws were first strengthened with complex procedures that the law enforcement officers had to follow including hours of waiting time at the station, most officers stopped making dui arrests. But Whoa!.. The DUI lawyers cried fowl and were found hanging around court houses pleading with the police to start making dui arrests again.

Anyway the lawyers got together with their legislator buddies and changed the dui laws to make it simpler for law enforcement to process dui arrests.

It is the lawyers that are the REAL beneficiaries of DUI laws.

You are right though that many police officers years ago used common sense, good judgment and discretion when enforcing DUI laws. Today officers have no such discretion with todays DUI laws and in-car cameras that tape every vehicle stop. They risk losing their careers and risk being civilly sued if the intoxicated driver is allowed to drive away.

See this article:

DUI suspect: Cop told me to drive

BY LAUREN FITZPATRICK

Southtown Star
Last Modified: Aug 4, 2011 04:20PM

An admittedly drunk driver took the witness stand in his own defense Friday, testifying how a Chicago Heights police officer ordered him behind the wheel before he crashed his girlfriend’s car, killing the 5-year-old boy he called his own.

Cecil Conner Jr., who faces two counts of aggravated driving under the influence, said officer Chris Felicetti gave him the mandate after his girlfriend and Michael Langford Jr.’s mother, Kathie LaFond, was arrested for driving on a suspended license...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/3900233-418/man-accused-in-dui-death-said-officer-ordered-him-behind-the-wheel.html?print=true


31 posted on 12/06/2011 6:14:09 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: sternup

40 years ago I watched/heard an entire family dying in their car after being t-boned by a drunk driver.... I’m damned glad enforcement has tightened up since then!


32 posted on 12/06/2011 7:58:47 AM PST by Enchante
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To: madmaximus

“The biggest crisis of Babbitt’s FAA tenure occurred last spring over a period of several weeks when nine air traffic controllers were allegedly caught sleeping on the job or were unresponsive to radio calls while on duty. The head of the FAA’s Air Traffic Organization was forced to resign during the ensuing uproar.

As the FAA’s top official, Babbitt has the final say in disciplinary proceedings involving controllers who violate the agency’s drug and alcohol regulations.”


33 posted on 12/06/2011 1:19:56 PM PST by KeyLargo
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