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Drone that crashed in Iran may give away U.S. secrets
LA Times via Orlando Sentinel ^ | December 6, 2011 | W.J. Hennigan, David S. Cloud & Ken Dilaniar

Posted on 12/06/2011 8:56:48 AM PST by Qbert

Reporting from Los Angeles and Washington— The radar-evading drone that crash-landed over the weekend in Iran was on a mission for the CIA, according to a senior U.S. official, raising fears that the aircraft's sophisticated technology could be exploited by Tehran or shared with other American rivals.

It was unclear whether the drone's mission took it over Iran or whether it strayed there accidentally because of technical malfunctions, the official said.

Though the drone flight was a CIA operation, U.S. military personnel were involved in flying the aircraft, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the secrecy involved.

The jet-powered, bat-winged RQ-170 Sentinel drone is considered one of the most advanced in the U.S. arsenal, with stealth technology and sophisticated computer systems that enable it to penetrate deep into hostile territory without detection.

Its capabilities were demonstrated during the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound in Pakistan, where it provided surveillance of the operation.

The aircraft's full abilities are a closely guarded secret, and the Pentagon has not revealed its price tag, size or top speed. But it has acknowledged this: The Sentinel may now be in Iranian hands.

"I think we're always concerned when there's an aircraft, whether it's manned or unmanned, that we lose, particularly in a place where we're not able to get to it," Navy Capt. John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman, said to reporters Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bhogwot; bhoiran; cia; drones; iran; uav
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1 posted on 12/06/2011 8:56:58 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

I thought drones were trained to withstand torture...


2 posted on 12/06/2011 9:01:31 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Qbert
Why do I doubt this??

BECAUSE IT'S IN THE NEWS as if it was a car crash on I-95.

I'm sure this is/was self destruct hardware on board. We're not that stupid.

3 posted on 12/06/2011 9:02:24 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Qbert
May? May give away secrets??

I think this was a intelligence coup for the Chicoms, Russians, and Iranians. I don't believe the official story in the least. Iranians shoot down a stealth drone and recover it mostly intact? BS, they got that thing delivered gift wrapped. All that was missing is the bow.

Decades and billions of dollars worth of stealth tech delivered in a day. Great job Obama!!!

4 posted on 12/06/2011 9:03:06 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Qbert

If it’s the LA Times, you can add “We Hope” to that headline.


5 posted on 12/06/2011 9:03:11 AM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Sacajaweau

"Why do I doubt this?? BECAUSE IT'S IN THE NEWS as if it was a car crash on I-95."

Or it could be the LA Times gloating over it.

6 posted on 12/06/2011 9:09:24 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Sacajaweau

It smells for another reason: Why not use a predator or global hawk in that area? What real advantages did this aircraft bring to the field there? If the story is true, the answer to that last question may also reveal what, exactly it was doing there.


7 posted on 12/06/2011 9:18:52 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Qbert

Is it just me that thinks it is insanity that this thing not only landed itself but did so in enemy territory and was not destroyed either by design or a nice 500 pounder from an aircraft.

The CIA? Well, I think the middle initial needs changing.


8 posted on 12/06/2011 9:19:55 AM PST by biff (WAS)
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To: Qbert

First thing I thought of was , “Oh yeah! That sounds like the ol’ Trojan Horse routine to me.” Whatever it was, was probably taken back to the darkest recesses of the pajama factory where they reverse engineer stuff. So we now know where to pin point the first strike.

I could be wrong but that was my first thought. That software is pre-programmed as to what to do if contact with pilot is lost. AS was said above. we aint that stupid.


9 posted on 12/06/2011 9:20:48 AM PST by halfright ("Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". -TJefferson)
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To: Qbert

From Wikipedia:

Aviation Week postulates that these elements suggest the designers have avoided ‘highly sensitive technologies’ due to the near certainty of eventual operational loss inherent with a single engine design and a desire to avoid the risk of compromising leading edge technology


10 posted on 12/06/2011 9:21:11 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

We know there were a couple of explosions in the last few days. Maybe picking up air quality data??? PLUS pictures. Seems reasonable.


11 posted on 12/06/2011 9:22:52 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Qbert
Look on the bright side.

They don't have any hostages.

Yet.

12 posted on 12/06/2011 9:27:31 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Qbert
Look on the bright side.

They don't have any hostages.

Yet.

13 posted on 12/06/2011 9:28:01 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Qbert
I like to hope that is all some effort to lead the Iranians (and Russia and China) down some technological dead end.

Piece this thing together with Radio Shack junk, remote control parts and some completely made-up non-funtioning supercool looking chips, then "lose" it over Iran.

Maybe I'm optimistic, but could we really be putting up truly cutting edge stuff without a self-destruct feature?


14 posted on 12/06/2011 9:29:57 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: lovecraft
There are several ways to look at this:

1. If the drone really fell into Iranian (i.e., Russkie, Chicom) hands, then its stealth technology wasn't really that good after all.

2. Maybe the Chicoms will sell us their copies of the drones at a cheaper price than we pay for them now.

3. The U.S. ahould only have "self-destruct stealth technology" drones fly into enemy territory.

4. The U.S. could have put all kinds of "super-secret," "stealth," and "sensitive materials" stickers on a non-stealthy drone and flown it into enemy territory to be shot down, thus confusing the enemy on our capabilities.

5. In order to get the chance to investigate the drone, the Chicoms will trade all kinds of military know-how and kgs of special nuclear material to the Iranians only to discover, when they check out the drone's electronics, the parts are all "Made in China."

15 posted on 12/06/2011 9:30:51 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: WayneS

The pilot probably feels its pain.


16 posted on 12/06/2011 9:31:26 AM PST by RitchieAprile (Renton is the new Bellevue!)
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To: halfright

I visited Langley in 1988. If you’re ever in the area, it’s worth the stop.


17 posted on 12/06/2011 9:32:25 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Qbert

Why did not the drone self destruct before the enemy got his hands on it, like in the 1960’s TV show “Misson Impossible”? I smell a rat.


18 posted on 12/06/2011 9:33:03 AM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: halfright
Whatever it was, was probably taken back to the darkest recesses of the pajama factory where they reverse engineer stuff. So we now know where to pin point the first strike.

Under the current administration I seriously doubt that there will be any "first strike", unless a field grade officer goes rogue. I can't imagine Obama or any of his flunkies authorizing one.

19 posted on 12/06/2011 9:37:19 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Carl Vehse

—The U.S. could have put all kinds of “super-secret...—

All of our good stuff is double-super-secret. The Iranians know that and would not be fooled. ;-)


20 posted on 12/06/2011 9:40:11 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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