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Jon Huntsman reaches out to conservative online community at Heritage Fndtn
Washington Post ^ | December 6, 2011 | Allen McDuffee

Posted on 12/06/2011 12:27:05 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative

“The best ideas are going to come out of the states,” said Republican presidential hopeful Jon Huntsman, speaking to a group of bloggers, online journalists and digital strategists at the Heritage Foundation.

Huntsman, who has seen an uptick in interest in his candidacy since the last two Republican debates that showcased his foreign policy strengths, used the event to draw on his experience as Utah’s governor as a way to reinforce his domestic bonafides.

Huntsman served as Utah’s governor from 2004 until 2009, when he was appointed by President Barack Obama to be U.S. ambassador to China.

In a wide-ranging talk, Huntsman’s discussion included Medicare, Medicaid, social security, education, global warming and the deficit, arguing that the answers to many of the country’s problems “are at the state level.”

“Our number one challenge — the economic deficit — can be changed,” said Huntsman. He suggested that the United Stares “could be on the cusp of an manufacturing renaissance.”

However, according to Huntsman, the United States also faces a devastating “trust deficit” resulting from “no trust toward Congress,” “no leadership” from the executive, and total distrust of Wall Street. “The people of this nation no longer have trust in the institutions of power,” he said.

“I want to phase out corporate welfare — totally,” said Huntsman.

“I’m still trying to find the value of the Department of Education,” said Huntsman, pointing out that he was the first governor to opt out of No Child Left Behind.

“Every child has a genius within... It’s not about resources, it’s about priorities,” he added.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: gingrich; jonhuntsman; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; newhampshire; obama; utah
Huntsman is THE choice for serious conservatives at this point. He is more conservative than Mitt & Newt, and will be a FAR stronger general election candidate. A few takeaways from Huntsman's speech:

* get rid of all corporate welfare, eliminate deductions, and flatten tax rates across the board

* wants to get rid of No Child Left Behind and questions the value of the Dept of Ed

* says will not "unilaterally disarm" the economy in the name of "unsettled science" around climate change

* is the ONLY candidate to put forth a credible plan to wind down Fannie/Freddie and permanently end TBTF

1 posted on 12/06/2011 12:27:15 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Washington Post detects and uptick.

Uptick?

What uptick?

He’s stuck at 1%. A strong, consistent, never-changing 1%.

He is the true 1%er!


2 posted on 12/06/2011 12:29:33 PM PST by samtheman
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Huntsman may have garnered tens or even hundreds of “Atta Boys” from his time on the campaign and as governor of Utah. I don't care. Whatever they are or were they have been overwhelmed by the “Oh Sh***” caused by his voluntary becoming Obama’s ambassador to China. That does it for me, and it would take years of walking the straight and narrow to overcome it.
3 posted on 12/06/2011 12:38:10 PM PST by NathanR
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Another case of the msm trying to choose a candidate for us. This with a positive tone about one. That is all you need to know.


4 posted on 12/06/2011 12:47:23 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: NathanR

Really? I don’t see the stint as ambassador as a bad thing. It’s honorable to serve the President, especially in a somewhat symbolic role, at a time that China is our most complex international challenge.


5 posted on 12/06/2011 12:50:46 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

READ his issues page. There is NOTHING remotely Conservative about Huntsman. He is just another RINO statist who thinks Government is the solution

http://jon2012.com/issues


6 posted on 12/06/2011 12:51:07 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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Newt is the one the D’s want us to pick. Newt has been on Fox News something like 60 times in the last two months. We are being force fed Newt.

But, once Newt is nominated the media will destroy him. His marraige / affairs are beyond what was alleged about Cain, and no one is denying it. If nothing else that will cost him millions of female votes, in turn dooming his bid.

But there is SO much more. How about the $1.5 million in consulting fees from Freddie?

He’s no small government conservative, and he appears to be all ego and no conscience.

If we nominate him the media will crush him, and Barry will get a second term.

Seeing as no one like’s Mitt, Huntsman may really be our best choice.


7 posted on 12/06/2011 12:54:13 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: NathanR

The peddling of his daughters was another warning sign for those that did not see him for the Rino that he is and would be in office.


8 posted on 12/06/2011 12:54:40 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
I was convinced as soon as Huntsman got in the race that he was nothing more than the establishment Republicans fallback candidate in case Romney stumbles somewhere in the primary season or maybe being groomed as the “Chosen One” for 2016. He has little personality, he hasn't stood out in any of the debates, hasn't shown he can fire up the base or fund-raise. He's consistently been dead last in most of the polls. Honestly, I don't see any path for him to the nomination.
9 posted on 12/06/2011 12:57:56 PM PST by apillar
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To: MNJohnnie

I don’t know what you’re reading. I see nothing by 100% conservatism in his issues and his record. His economic platform was rated the best of all the candidates by the WSJ and by Erick Erickson of RedState.

Perhaps you could help me by stating what specifically you find on his issues page that makes you think he’s not conservative?


10 posted on 12/06/2011 1:05:23 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: MNJohnnie
Newt doesn't think government is the solution? Well it's *his* solution, it's made him a very rich man, including the $1.5 Million from Freddie for "consulting".

As for the link, it looks like a lot of pretty generic Republican stuff. Here's the financial reform ideas:

Those seem like solid conservative proposals. What's Newt's plan for Fannie and Freddie? LOL!!!
11 posted on 12/06/2011 1:06:55 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Newt doesn't think government is the solution? Well it's *his* solution, it's made him a very rich man, including the $1.5 Million from Freddie for "consulting".

As for the link, it looks like a lot of pretty generic Republican stuff. Here's the financial reform ideas:

Those seem like solid conservative proposals. What's Newt's plan for Fannie and Freddie? LOL!!!
12 posted on 12/06/2011 1:07:15 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
No he's not.

Jon Huntsman’s Love Letters (to Obama & the Clintons)

Huntsman's Liberal Policies as Governor Pose Challenge

Huntsman: Climate Change Has Established Scientists Associated With It

Jon Huntsman's Cap and Trade, Stimulus Support and Individual Mandate Past Catches Up to Him

Huntsman in 2009: Stimulus "Probably Wasn't Big Enough"

Video: Take it from Jon Huntsman

Huntsman's Anti-GOP Strategy

13 posted on 12/06/2011 1:10:06 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Huntsman isn’t a choice. He is a curiosity who voters choose to ignore. When he gets up to 3 percent in the polls, he might become a person of interest in some obscure cults of progressive bastions.


14 posted on 12/06/2011 1:12:55 PM PST by pallis
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To: apillar
Honestly, I don't see any path for him to the nomination.

Really? I do. Just as Trump, Bachmann, Perry and Cain got to the front, only to make unrecoverable errors and lose all momentum (in several cases dropping out) so too will Newt likely put his foot in it.

At which point the "anybody but Romney" crowd, led by Free Republic will look around to see who else is left to be the Anti-Mitt, and there sitting pretty will be Huntsman.

I'm not saying it WILL happen that way, but it's at least possible. He might as well hang in for a bit.

It's not like Gingrich hasn't screwed up and quit before.

15 posted on 12/06/2011 1:15:35 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black
Honestly, I don't see any path for him to the nomination.

Really? I do. Just as Trump, Bachmann, Perry and Cain got to the front, only to make unrecoverable errors and lose all momentum (in several cases dropping out) so too will Newt likely put his foot in it.

At which point the "anybody but Romney" crowd, led by Free Republic will look around to see who else is left to be the Anti-Mitt, and there sitting pretty will be Huntsman.

I'm not saying it WILL happen that way, but it's at least possible. He might as well hang in for a bit.

I don't think I'd count on that. There seems to me as much hostility directed at Huntsman on Free Republic as there is at Romney. It's not as readily apparent because there are way fewer Huntsman thread and it's kind of pointless to take shots at the guy in last place. But, do a search of Huntsman threads for the last six months. I think many actually consider Huntsman to the left of Romney, and may even support Romney over Huntsman or (more likely) vote third party before voting for either.

16 posted on 12/06/2011 1:23:27 PM PST by apillar
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Huntsman is Plan B for the liberal media, just in case Romney crashes before the primaries.


17 posted on 12/06/2011 1:34:56 PM PST by Walrus (Big media is the natural enemy of liberty)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Sorry to disagree with you, but listening to him during the debates indicated to me that this guy is far from the type of Conservative I wish to support.

I don’t think he has any idea how much he outed himself to my way of thinking.


18 posted on 12/06/2011 1:39:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: samtheman

>> Uptick?

You’re asking me? No, I don’t think he’s up.

Up to no good, maybe. But not up in the polls.


19 posted on 12/06/2011 1:44:14 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Jack Black
I don't see how it is honorable to serve Obama in any capacity.
20 posted on 12/06/2011 1:47:22 PM PST by NathanR
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To: Jack Black
I don't see how it is honorable to serve Obama in any capacity.
21 posted on 12/06/2011 1:47:22 PM PST by NathanR
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To: apillar

I don’t get that impression. First, it’s 100% totally off-base. Romney’s record and platform are clearly to the left of Huntsman. That’s the objective truth - not debatable. Huntsman has ALWAYS been 100% pro-life and 100% pro-gun - two issues that Romney has been on the Dem side for the first half of his political career - and those are two hot-button issues for FReepers.

Second even if it is true (and I don’t think it is), hostility towards a candidate has never cost him the nomination. There was a TON of hostility directed toward John McCain last year - at least as much as Romney - and yet he went on to win the nomination because it was a subpar, flawed field of candidates. Huntsman is a FAR better candidate than McCain was, and better than Mitt & Newt are now.


22 posted on 12/06/2011 1:50:16 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Huntsman’s problem is he’s a CoC/CFR sock-puppet. Romney already owns most of that contingent. He doesn’t really hold any appeal for nationalists or social conservatives (although admittedly, neither does Mitt or Newt). And he’s not old enough for the geriatric entitlement mafia. I think he’d be a fine candidate if he were running as a democrat.

Unlike Mitt or Newt, he’s someone I might actually consider holding my nose for if he did manage to win the nomination. But he’s not someone I’m going to waste a primary vote on.


23 posted on 12/06/2011 1:52:16 PM PST by CowboyJay (Generic Republican - 2012. He's the only 'electable' candidate.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I don’t know what polls you are looking at but it isn’t a matter of opinion or hearsay. Huntsman was at 5% in a national poll recently (American Research Group ?) which is how he is in the Iowa debate.

If the article is referring to New Hampshire polls in particular, he is undeniable up there - posting in at 11% on the last Rasmussen survey. You might be forgiven for thinking nothing has changed and he started at 5, though. haha.


24 posted on 12/06/2011 2:01:55 PM PST by erlayman
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To: MNJohnnie

He is just another RINO statist who thinks Government is the solution....

&&&
And he’s a girly man, too.


25 posted on 12/06/2011 2:04:49 PM PST by Bigg Red (In this Advent season: Prepare ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: erlayman

>> Huntsman was at 5%

VERY IMPRESSIVE!

Say, what was the MOE in that poll?


26 posted on 12/06/2011 2:07:57 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: apillar
Ambassador for Obama = no conservative
27 posted on 12/06/2011 2:10:07 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: Nervous Tick

He has been in the race 6 months compared to 6 years for Romney, 3 times a contender for Paul, and of course Newt who has been around forever. Naturally Huntsman’s name recognition is 30-40% behind the others and it is going to be tough with half of the country not having the foggiest idea you exist. I think he is actually doing well in NH for a candidate with those handicaps. The others have reached a saturation point but the market potential for Jon is still wide open. IMO.


28 posted on 12/06/2011 2:29:36 PM PST by erlayman
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To: DoughtyOne

Who is the kind of electable conservative you can support?


29 posted on 12/06/2011 2:31:33 PM PST by erlayman
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Are you kidding? Huntsman is a smarmy, unctuous, progressive in RINO’s clothing. I wouldnt buy a used car from him much less trust him with the reins to the country.


30 posted on 12/06/2011 2:56:08 PM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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To: erlayman
Who is the kind of electable conservative you can support?

That's a fair question. It's a tough one too.

My premise is that both the Democrat and Republican parties have moved drastically left. The Democrats openly support all forms of deviancy. They demonstrate contempt for our founders and the documents they drafted. While the Republicans pay lip service to our founders and their documents, they don't advocate for them soundly enough, and have proven themselves perfectly willing to exist in various states of rebellion against them.

Some of our folks seem to get it for a while, and then they reveal cracks in their facade, that make it clear we really didn't understand who they were all along. It's very demoralizing.

I thought Cain was quite good as it relates to the Free Enterprise system. I wasn't as happy about his foreign policy merits.

I thought Bachmann was pretty good, but I haven't cared for the way she tried to capitalize off some of the Leftist attacks on our other candidates. She made a few stumbles that caused me concern. I could still support her, but she would need to prove she had cleaned up her act.

As for the others, I see major problems with each of them. Some of it is based on their past history. Some of it is based on the fact that I can't trust them because of it. It bothers me a lot when folks try to pass themselves off as something they aren't too.

"Hey, I know I did things I shouldn't have for a decade or more, but I am a very Conservative guy now, even if you don't see eye to eye with me." This logic floors me. Who do they think they're kidding?

I realize this isn't much help, but I am very unimpressed by the field of candidates this year.

We don't have a person who has gotten it long term, and still does. Is that too much to ask? Evidently so.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

31 posted on 12/06/2011 3:00:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: 1malumprohibitum

Cite for me specifics. Being an ambassador under Obama is not a deal-breaker for me.

If you want to cite his record, or his platform as a reason to call him a “RINO”, be my guest, but you’re gonna need some facts to back up your assertions. My assertion is that Huntsman is more conservative than Mitt or Newt. You could say that Huntsman has at times dabbled in climate change nonsense, but so have Mitt & Newt, and to much larger degrees. Huntsman’s economic platform is the right of both candidates, and he’s always been 100% pro-life and pro-gun.


32 posted on 12/06/2011 3:04:31 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: apillar

McCain got the nomination, anything can happen.


33 posted on 12/06/2011 3:11:16 PM PST by RightCenter
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To: DoughtyOne

You deal with the field you have, not the field you want. I too think the field is lacking. After a lot of reading and research and going back and forth between several candidates, I have settled on Huntsman as 1) the most consistent conservative record and platform and 2) as the guy who has the best chance of defeating Obama.

Any of the candidates running would be better than Obama. There will likely be one or two Supreme Court appointments in the next four years too, so think about that. Do you want another Sotomayor or Kagan on the bench that will be there for 30 years?

Huntsman has some flaws, but overall he’s got a great record and a great platform. He can win too. Vote for whomever you want in the primary, but if you can’t support a Republican this year, then I’ll put you down as a half-vote for Obama.


34 posted on 12/06/2011 3:11:41 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: MNJohnnie

Huntsman’s got the best platform of any of them for tax reform, energy, financial regulatory regulation, etc.. He’s always been solidly pro-life.

I don’t like his record on illegal immigration and some of his foreign policy positions, but there’s a good chunk of his record and campaign positions that is quite conservative.


35 posted on 12/06/2011 3:28:34 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: apillar

Any republican that shakes and eats out of the hand of Obama is not what the USA needs at this time. So just cross off the list of suitables the likes of Huntsman, Boehner, and some SC justices.


36 posted on 12/06/2011 4:05:13 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: St. Louis Conservative
he was appointed by President Barack Obama to be U.S. ambassador to China.

Well, that there lies the REAL problem. Heussein loves RINOs.

37 posted on 12/06/2011 4:12:25 PM PST by chemicalman (The more support I see,the harder I want to work,and the more determined I am not to let folks down.)
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To: chemicalman

lol. So the verifiable RINOs Newt and Mitt are preferable to the true conservative who served his country in a nonpartisan position for a president of the opposite party ?

Anyone interested in Gingrich should the transcript of the Glenn Beck interview. There is no way I can vote for him after that. Unlike Huntsman, he really doesn’t disagree all that much with Obama when it comes right down to it. Unlike Huntsman, both he and Obama and Mitt are for individual mandates in health care (Washington just needs to provide better choices...) and will govern as heavy handedly as Teddy Roosevelt. Increasing the size and scope of government rather than decreasing it.

Unlike Huntsman, both he and Mitt have flip flopped so much it really is hard to tell where they stand. I can only assume their recent shift to the right was calculated move because of the Tea party surge and influence in the last midterm election than under the gun of true conviction. Mitt and Newt are the two that have figured out the science of telling people what they want to hear and has decided most people wont check to see if they are actually telling the truth.

It is always good to know how far conservatives will sell out their core values for the sake of a competent Washington insider.


38 posted on 12/07/2011 1:12:51 AM PST by erlayman
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