Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

W.H.: TR, Obama not communist
Politico44 ^ | 12/6/11 | BYRON TAU

Posted on 12/06/2011 12:31:15 PM PST by ColdOne

From today’s briefing, the White House insists that they’re not worried about President Obama being labeled a socialist or a communist -- as Theodore Roosevelt was in 1910:

Q: Teddy Roosevelt was called a socialist and a communist after he gave this speech. Is the President mindful of that, and keeping that in part of his target?

MR. CARNEY: No, I think -- I think that is an irony, because I don’t think -- I would assume that this President’s critics share in his admiration for Teddy Roosevelt as a titan in American history and a hugely important and progressive leader in this country, and a Republican. The fact of the matter is that Teddy Roosevelt was advocating for the same sectors of American society that this President is advocating for, that so many leaders, between the two of them have -- in the years between the two were on the scene, have advocated for.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; bhosocialism; communist; democrats; elections; fascist; fascists; marxist; nobama2012; obama; socialistdemocrats; socilist; teddyroosevelt; tr

1 posted on 12/06/2011 12:31:18 PM PST by ColdOne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: ColdOne
From today’s briefing, the White House insists that they’re not worried about President Obama being labeled a socialist or a communist -- as Theodore Roosevelt was in 1910.

Note to Carnie...

Too late!


2 posted on 12/06/2011 12:33:59 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ColdOne

What a laff riot! Mr. Obama isn’t fit to tie President Harding’s shoelaces, much less a powerful nationalist like President Theodore Roosevelt’s. T.R., Ike, Jackson, Lincoln and many others would’ve had Barry deported.


3 posted on 12/06/2011 12:37:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ColdOne
Once, just once, I would like someone in the media to ask Obama what he thinks a socialist is, and how his policies can be differentiated from what his concept of socialism is.
4 posted on 12/06/2011 12:38:10 PM PST by fhayek
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ColdOne
Obama: "I'm Abraham Lincoln!"

"I'm FDR!"

Now he's Teddy Roosevelt?

Who will he pretend to be next?

5 posted on 12/06/2011 12:43:56 PM PST by CASchack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ColdOne

I just happen to be about half-way through reading one of TR’s biographies. He would have hated a waffling, do nothing, foreign, girly-man like Zero!!


6 posted on 12/06/2011 12:48:24 PM PST by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CASchack
Who will he pretend to be next?

Comparing Presidents


7 posted on 12/06/2011 12:49:54 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ColdOne
In the end TR was a socialist. He was the Progressive Party's candidate for president in 1912. Here is part of wiki's summary of the 1912 party platform:

In the social sphere the platform called for


8 posted on 12/06/2011 12:50:17 PM PST by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ColdOne

The fact they they had to even comment on it tells you all you need to know.


9 posted on 12/06/2011 12:55:17 PM PST by Bronzewound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ColdOne

Teddy may have been a progressive, but this clown wouldn’t have been fit to wash the underwear Teddy wore up San Juan Hill...


10 posted on 12/06/2011 12:55:36 PM PST by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: matt1234

Don’t fall into the trap of not judging history on history’s terms. What TR faced is incomparable. Children working, outrageous working conditions, monopolistic business abuses, incredible poverty, woefully inadequate medical care, etc. Do you think that anyone in his position, at that time, wouldn’t have attempted to use the US Gov’t to attempt to change some of these conditions? This was then, not now. Labelling TR a socialist by today’s standards is inappropriate. The only thing more outrageous is mentioning TR and Pres.Obama in the same sentence.


11 posted on 12/06/2011 1:03:14 PM PST by cumbo78
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Batman11

But if you read Morris’s “Colonel Roosevelt” you will see that TR was for exactly the govt intervention in the economy and a tax the wealthy mentality, and govt entitlements that were only partially created by the New Deal and Great Society. I wondered how long Obama and Axelrod would take to cut off the present GOP from its icons. By the time they are finished the GOP won’t even be left with Hoover, whose Reconstruction Finance Corp was the prime mover in govt choosing winners and losers in the economy, and was seen by FDR as the most powerful govt entity throughout his first two terms. As far as TR hating Obama, he’s 90 years dead and America is no longer seeking imperial glory, but Americans want the govt’s largesse and have no problem with soaking the rich to get it. That is IMO the unpleasant truth. Longevity tables say I’ve 20-30 years left. I do not expect to see a non Dem POTUS elected in my lifetime


12 posted on 12/06/2011 1:06:31 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: ColdOne
TR was not one of the greats. He was lovable, eccentric, and always interesting but he did not first and foremost advocate for freedom for the individual. The GOP put him up because it was a socialistic era and he could win elections at such a time. But then he later ended up running 3rd party because he was too progressive.

TR was a good military man, however.

13 posted on 12/06/2011 1:07:45 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fhayek

Obama is an Anti-Colonialist (Against America in the World) with strong communist tendencies (Individual mandate in Obamacare).


14 posted on 12/06/2011 1:12:10 PM PST by sr4402
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: matt1234

Five years before the Russian revolution and the implementation of Marxism.

In the context of the civil war and rapid industrialization of society - there were disturbing examples of worker exploitation, appalling work conditions, lack of medical services etc., etc., and railroad labor unions flexing their muscles.

Someone was looking into future trends and making plans to prevent another full-blown civil conflict. Then WWI began for the US in 1917.


15 posted on 12/06/2011 1:12:39 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats and newtralize the RINOS - the Senate, House & WHouse)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ColdOne
...I would assume that this President’s critics share in his admiration for Teddy Roosevelt as a titan in American history and a hugely important and progressive leader in this country, and a Republican.
You're an idiot, Carney.
This President’s "critics" know Teddy Roosevelt was nothing more than a progressive in Republican clothes. He's the original RINO.
It does sound catchy and convincing, that's for sure.
I'm sure the media will buy it, the "critics" won't.
16 posted on 12/06/2011 1:48:38 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Siena Dreaming

The GOP establishment only put up TR for VP to get him out of the way. He would not have been president but for a deranged lefitist anarchist shooting McKinnely.

The situation TR faced as the nation was rapidly industrializing was very different than today. There were many problems that we see in the develoing world. Failure to work on those problems back then would’ve opened to door to change by violent leftist radicals.

TR addressed those problems and made the country prosperous and powerful. I am glad that in the US groceries are assumed not to be tainted, that tap water is safe to drink, that children are not slaving away in factories, that places like the Grand Canyon will be preserved.

To me TR is easily in the top 5 presidents.


17 posted on 12/06/2011 1:49:16 PM PST by Lou Budvis (Newt/Marco '12)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Lou Budvis
I'm not so sure that tap water wouldn't be safe to drink, grocery items not safe to eat and that the Grand Canyon wouldn't be preserved without Federal Gov't directives.

State and local Gov'ts as well as good, free, business practices are well able to provide quality in areas such as this, and many times more than the bureaucratic Federal Government provides.

As far as kids slaving...a big part of our problem is that kids don't know what it is to work. I'm not one of those who wants Federal laws against kids working. Parents today are unable to oversee these decisions and I find that very wrong. For their own sake...kids should become accustomed to what the business world is like much earlier than they do now.

Much of the "child slave labor" rhetoric is untrue and damaging to kids in the long run IMO.

18 posted on 12/06/2011 2:02:45 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: ColdOne

I think we all know exactly what Obama is.He is definetly Not Teddy Roosevelt .


19 posted on 12/06/2011 2:09:25 PM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CASchack

Well, since he won’t tell us his real history, he has to keep pretending to be other men.


20 posted on 12/06/2011 2:15:39 PM PST by Bigg Red (In this Advent season: Prepare ye the way of the Lord.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: jessduntno

If Robert Ford was around, it would be curtains for FUBO.


21 posted on 12/06/2011 4:48:40 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: ColdOne

Gee, somehow I don’t recall TR shrinking the navy; in fact he did exactly the opposite. Nor did he, famously, give quarter to Muslim terrorists. And he did not take big bucks from trusts; he busted them. The Ci-cago gang is growing desperate and delusional.


22 posted on 12/06/2011 4:54:55 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson