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Tennessee family home burns while firefighters watch
Yahoo! News ^ | Dec. 6, 2011

Posted on 12/06/2011 4:33:24 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

A Tennessee couple helplessly watched their home burn to the ground, along with all of their possessions, because they did not pay a $75 annual fee to the local fire department.

Vicky Bell told the NBC affiliate WPSD-TV that she called 911 when her mobile home in Obion County caught fire. Firefighters arrived on the scene but as the fire raged, they simply stood by and did nothing. "In an emergency, the first thing you think of, 'Call 9-1-1," homeowner Bell said.

However, Bell and her husband were forced to walk into the burning home in an attempt to retrieve their own belongings. "You could look out my mom's trailer and see the trucks sitting at a distance," Bell said. "We just wished we could've gotten more out."

South Fulton Mayor David Crocker defended the fire department, saying that if firefighters responded to non-subscribers, no one would have an incentive to pay the fee.

Residents in the city of South Fulton receive the service automatically, but it is not extended to those living in the greater county-wide area.

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To: Chode
none of the volunteer forces here charge you anything, not a penny...

Who pays for the fire station? The fire trucks and the fuel that runs them? The helmets, turnout gear and air packs the firefighters wear? None of that comes free. Others have pointed out the facts of this story, but for those who continue to misstate the reality:
--This is a new incident that just happened albeit very similar to what took place last year.
--The firefighters showed up to ensure life safety and that no structures that had paid the subscription fee were affected.
--The city that pays for the trucks, turnout gear, etc., decided not to stick its taxpayers with the costs of providing fire protection services to people who live outside the city and don't pay taxes. The city instead came up with the very reasonable idea of offering those services to people outside the city who pay an annual $75 subscription fee.
--The people in this incident, despite knowing what happened last year, didn't think they would ever have a fire, so they rolled the dice and decided to risk losing their trailer home by not paying the fee.
--These people also chose not to buy regular fire insurance so their losses are not covered, and putting out the fire then billing them would get the fire department squat.
--No one is being extorted or forced to pay anything, as clearly these people were free to make a choice and did.
--As a volunteer firefighter myself, I am very conflicted about this issue because I go into burning buildings without any thought about whose building it is. Yet I understand that "volunteer" doesn't mean free, and freeloading makes it harder to provide services for everyone else.
101 posted on 12/06/2011 5:30:52 PM PST by drjimmy
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To: Pontiac

in this SH of a town they probably just tell the attorneys not to mess with their system or they will burn their house down.


102 posted on 12/06/2011 5:31:56 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Responsibility2nd
These people have decided that they will handle fire protection on a private level basis.

It's like those stupid old Americans, claiming they don't have the cash to pay the bill to heat their homes come winter.

Turn the gas off, cut the juice...We'll make an example of these free loaders....

Oh, and Merry Christmas to all!

103 posted on 12/06/2011 5:33:33 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m sure they had plenty of property insurance to cover the fire damage..........NOT!


104 posted on 12/06/2011 5:33:57 PM PST by Newtoidaho (Fight organized crime. Vote out all incumbent Democrats!)
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To: sand lake bar

I agree with you. I’m on a VOLUNTEER SAR team. We get NOTHING from the government. What money we do get we have to work very hard at, and they are all donations. We never ask for payment when we are called out in the middle of the night to drive over an hour to a search area (paying for our own gas). We do what is needed. Knowing that those “firefighters” WATCHED that residence burn to the ground makes me sick. Emergency services exist to help people, so help them! Do your job or get out of the business.


105 posted on 12/06/2011 5:35:32 PM PST by Snowy
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To: AlexW

Ah. They need more taxes and more laws.


106 posted on 12/06/2011 5:36:58 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: MPJackal

I thought taxes paid public employees, at least according to our leadership. What kind of people watch a house burn and do nothing? I guess people here are advocating paying public employees through taxes... And then let’s add some um fees.. Heck why don’t we just make these tolls. I am disgusted by paying taxes, then fees, it never ends. So unless these firemen douchebags get paid no public money, then maybe. But to do nothing. Occupy a firetruck.


107 posted on 12/06/2011 5:37:22 PM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: sand lake bar

Did you READ the article? It says that the woman and her boyfriend knew about the same thing having happened nearby last year but “they thought it would never happen to them” so they didn’t pay the 75.00.

Frankly, I don’t feel sorry for them. They are fools. Utter and complete fools.


108 posted on 12/06/2011 5:39:15 PM PST by Houghton M.
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To: Magnum44

The deliberately, after forethought, knowing that someone else’s house burned down last year because those people had not paid the fee, CHOSE not to pay.

They knowingly chose not to pay.

I’d say they deserved what they got. Part of being an adult is taking care of your Stuff. In this case, fire protection cost all of $75.00 a year. To knowingly refuse to pay that fee is stupid beyond belief.

If they had not had the warning of the same thing having happened last year, I’d cut them some slack. But these two shack-ups deserve no pity whatsoever.


109 posted on 12/06/2011 5:42:02 PM PST by Houghton M.
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To: SuzyQue

Ah. They need more taxes and more laws.

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Nailed it. I am LMAO at the libertarians on this thread who are irate and agitated at this story. But if they analyzed the issue, they would see a easy answer:

Pass laws to forces idiots to pay taxes to get fire protection services.


110 posted on 12/06/2011 5:43:29 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Figment
Old story, why is it being brought up again?

Not an old story. Just happened. It's just in the same county and with the same fire company as the old story. The other one happened in October, 2010. Guy's name was Gene Cranick.

111 posted on 12/06/2011 5:43:46 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: drjimmy
anything the Firemen don't pay for themselves is ALL paid for with fund raisers, donations and grants, the trucks were all paid for the same way as well as the firehouse itself, the property pays no taxes...

not one VFD in our county charges anything.

you don't have to like it, but it's the truth...

112 posted on 12/06/2011 5:44:54 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: apoliticalone

The thing that is killing such small towns and areas are government pensions and lavish healthcare plans. Then on top of it in many cases they can retire and come back to work and get paid on top of collecting reitrement and free taxpayer-paid for healthcare.

And bitch to high heaven if anyone wants to take it away, claiming any reduction will “kill them”.


113 posted on 12/06/2011 5:46:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: drjimmy

“Who pays for the fire station? The fire trucks and the fuel that runs them?”
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As in my previous post, Taxes should pay for the equipment.
There was never a fee in my area, and I was a volunteer fireman, usually driving the truck.

As also posted, if there are unpaid fees for responding to the fire, a lien should be filed on the property...Problem solved.


114 posted on 12/06/2011 5:46:52 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Bryanw92
It’s going to get worse before it gets better. Nothing gets fixed until we hit the bottom where we can’t pay entitlements anymore. Then, people start learnng that life has consequences, how to set priorities, and to take care of themselves and their families.

What bothers me the most is that it was preventable. It was our own own taxpayer compensated politicians that we elected that caused this. They allowed our economy, the former example to the world, to be neutralized and squandered not for Americans, but for the globalists.

Corporations that were made successful here turned their back on the USA. We needed leaders who were true patriots and instead we got traitors with flag pins who failed to defend our economy and enforce fair trade. They are losers from both sides of the aisle. We needed tariffs and they gave them our free markets.

115 posted on 12/06/2011 5:48:37 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Bryanw92; paul51
don’t taunt the victims by showing up at their home’s destruction and watching

I think they were there to make sure no one was injured and to prevent the fire from spreading.

116 posted on 12/06/2011 5:49:07 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: AlexW

That’s great, Alex, but that’s not how they’ve chosen to do it there. It should be a local issue, right? Or, should those of us who know how things should be, just decide for them?


117 posted on 12/06/2011 5:50:20 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: steelyourfaith

Fire departments are funded by taxes.
All should be covered, county or city wide.
Fire departments have become union thugs who sit on their fat butts and do very little while accepting the gratitude of the masses for what OTHERS have done.
In some areas they are the most overpaid, underworked group ever to draw a paycheck.
Now they want an honorarium to put out the fire. No cash, the house burns.
It’s called corruption.


118 posted on 12/06/2011 5:54:18 PM PST by 9422WMR
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Should everyone outside of town pay the $75? Yes, I think so...

But I guess it's best that I am not a firefighter in this town... If I was dispatched to a house fire, and then told while in route that the purpose was to make sure that no adjacent structure caught fire because the owners of the burning house hadn't paid $75 - well, I guess I would insist on putting our the fire anyway... If anyone said anything to me I would just tell them I would rather pay the $75 out of my own pocket instead of watching someone lose all of their possessions when something could have been done and wasn't.

This situation, to me, is akin to a doctor refusing treatment to someone hurt in a motor vehicle accident at the side of a road because he is afraid he might not get paid.

Whatever happened to compassion? Most of us will never have to make the decision between paying $75 to cover fire department service or using that $75 to buy groceries. I hope none of us ever do. And I don't know anything about this family's financial situation, either. But I would guess that if they could have afforded the $75 comfortably, they would have. But good grief... To sit and watch from the fire truck while someone's home burns? I don't think I could sleep at night if I did such a thing.

119 posted on 12/06/2011 5:58:39 PM PST by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3)
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To: trumandogz

“First, the homeowners insurance should cover much of the loss and second, the fire department would have likely not saved the trailer house from being destroyed even if they had put out the fire.”

I wonder if the insurance (if any) would be voided by not having fire department protection, (or even “contributory negligence”). The town I grew up in had equipment and specially-trained personnel lesser in number but as good as any big city, because it had a (good tax-paying) industrial area. Because of this, we would get the lowest rates possible on home insurance. An insurance company would be out of their minds to insure any structure without some sort of fire protection.


120 posted on 12/06/2011 6:03:12 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Houghton M.
I’d say they deserved what they got. Part of being an adult is taking care of your Stuff. In this case, fire protection cost all of $75.00 a year. To knowingly refuse to pay that fee is stupid beyond belief.

As others have said, this only illustrates why taxes are needed for some things. In our area the township helps fund the VFD with taxes supplemented with donations and fund raisers and I fully support it.

We have ambulance services that are funded privately by individual members but are still available to all and they will bill when used. Some people are too damn stupid or tight to do what is right by themselves, and then they'll want others to bail them and just like Wall St. it isn't limited to foolish average people.

Many years ago (1700s-1800s) the public bought fire protection and they implanted a building fire insurance mark in the front of the structure that identified it as being "covered". We need coverage for a community to prevent massive destructive fires that can spread and destroy a community. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_insurance_mark

121 posted on 12/06/2011 6:04:08 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: SuzyQue

“That’s great, Alex, but that’s not how they’ve chosen to do it there.”
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Well, that is not MY problem, or yours.
I offered a very simple and easy solution.
It is beyond my ability to fix stupid.


122 posted on 12/06/2011 6:05:54 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Free ThinkerNY
All this chitter-chatter about how volunteer firefighters "callously" stood by as they watched a house of a non-subscriber burn to the ground.

If one decides not to purchase car insurance and then gets into a wreck, would one expect the insurance companies to swoop in and make good anyhow? I do not think that many people would answer to the affirmative. So why then should a family - too cheap to pay the annual fee - expect firefighters to douse the fire in their home all the same?

123 posted on 12/06/2011 6:12:25 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 57 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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To: drjimmy
p.s. our current firehouse was built in 1935 and is in need of replacement, so the VFD just purchased a larger piece of land for a bigger station less than one mile from the current location and we are doing the fund raising now to build the new station
124 posted on 12/06/2011 6:12:37 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SuzyQue

Not even “conservatives” on FR are for freedom of choice and personal responsibility.


125 posted on 12/06/2011 6:13:04 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: abigailsmybaby

It makes me realize how far over the edge we’ve gone. And makes me very sad.


126 posted on 12/06/2011 6:17:24 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: Snowy
Knowing that those “firefighters” WATCHED that residence burn to the ground makes me sick. Emergency services exist to help people, so help them! Do your job or get out of the business.

Exactly as I feel. These "firefighters" which, of course is a misnomer in this case, are far more mercenaries than public servants.

127 posted on 12/06/2011 6:18:35 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Every fire department should have this policy. That way the money would go straight to the station - cutting out some parasites in the middle. :)


128 posted on 12/06/2011 6:20:55 PM PST by The Duke
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To: SamAdams76
All this chitter-chatter about how volunteer firefighters "callously" stood by as they watched a house of a non-subscriber burn to the ground.

This wasn't a VFD but raher a city FD covering a Rural area by subscription service as I understand the article. Thus city taxes paid for the service. County residence had too have known no paid fee paid meant no coverage given. Most Tennessee counties usually cover rural fire fighting needs with VFD's though.

129 posted on 12/06/2011 6:24:10 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Prokopton

...are far more mercenaries than public servants.

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You miss the point. They are NOT public servants. Not even “private” servants. Vicky Bell does not pay taxes to that outside fire department agency. Nor does she pay the silly $75.00 fee.


130 posted on 12/06/2011 6:24:15 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

People who “didn’t pay” (i.e., have no health insurance) can walk into an emergency room and get treated. Because that’s the kind of people we’ve decided to be in America.

I guess the firemen in Tennessee have decided to be... different kind of people.

Just wow.


131 posted on 12/06/2011 6:25:33 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: re_nortex

Good call. I immediately thought if the similar story from last year but couldn’t recall where it occurred.


132 posted on 12/06/2011 6:27:53 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I understand the difference between fees and donations, smart guy - if these rubes had just paid the $75 they would still have their house.


133 posted on 12/06/2011 6:28:47 PM PST by dainbramaged (I lost my mantra around 1969.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I would like to know more about the fee. Are the city dwellers subsidizing anyone outside the city limits? How much do the city dwellers pay? Do you get a rebate if the fire occurrences are low that year? Are these union fire fighters? Does your homeowner’s fire insurance policy give you a discount if you pay the yearly fire department usage fee? What exactly does the fee cover or guarantee? Where does public safety end and private safety start. Does unused fire funds move over to the city’s general fund at the end of the year? Is there a fireman’s creed or oath?


134 posted on 12/06/2011 6:30:05 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: DannyTN

“Sounds like this one is funded by city taxes and these people apparently lived outside the city. Thus the fee.”
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Then it should be funded by county taxes.
If not, the fee should be included in rent or mortgage
payments.
If that does not work, a lien could be filed on the property.

Watching the house burn is cruel and unusual punishment.


135 posted on 12/06/2011 6:30:05 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Blue Ink

I guess the firemen in Tennessee have decided to be... different kind of people.

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It’s not the firemen who are making the decisions here. It’s the citizens - the taxpayers.

This is classis libertariansim in action. Citizens have made the choice to limit their government.

Didn’t work out so well for Vicky Bell, huh?


136 posted on 12/06/2011 6:34:47 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Blue Ink

“I guess the firemen in Tennessee have decided to be... different kind of people.”
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Do not include the whole state.
Before I left the USSA, I was a Tennessee volunteer fireman.
We would NEVER have done what is described in the story.


137 posted on 12/06/2011 6:36:36 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Responsibility2nd
Folks some common sense here. If you decide to live in a rural area {nothing wrong with that I've lived in rural Tennessee almost all my life} you have to realize you are not in the city. You in general do not get city services. I do have limited fire protection. My local VFD which my family donates too along with the Volunteer Rescue Squad. The only question is will they get here in time too matter?

The county south of me had a community just loose it's VFD to Rural Metro because persons stopped donating. Rural Metro is fee for service either by subscription or by paying when needed which is thousands in a fully involved fire. The good part of a VFD is they respond from their own residence which may be a neighbor and can at least get in and clear the home. The only ones to respond from the building are the pumper and tankers. MIne is 10 miles away.

138 posted on 12/06/2011 6:47:39 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
You miss the point. They are NOT public servants. Not even “private” servants.

I suppose you're right. They are the type of people that if they heard a child screaming in the flames would have calculated that it would be dangerous to try and save them and not worth risking their precious skin, walking away would be the most prudent move.

As someone already posted, sickening.

139 posted on 12/06/2011 6:48:05 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: cva66snipe
Best solution is donate to a VFD. These guys work their tails off for free. Wrecks? They respond. Medical emergency? They respond. Someone fallen needing lifting assistance? They respond. VFD's are the best service for the price. They will fight any fire to the best of their ability.

My little town has a VFD and ambulance service. I've not had a fire in the 20 or so years I've lived here but last year I had to call for an ambulance for my wife. They were very prompt and professional and charged zero dollars.

The last time I had to pay for an ambulance was more than 20 years ago and it was over $1,000 at the time.

Now when my VFD has their "all you can eat pancake and sausage breakfasts" for $5, I drop a hundred dollar bill in the till. Last time I took my 11 year old grand son with me, he's one serious pancake and sausage eater, I donated two, hundred dollar bills.

I can't say enough good things about these folks.

140 posted on 12/06/2011 6:49:28 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but I want a President who loves mine.)
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To: Houghton M.

Irrelevant. Just like I can’t imagine doctors refusing to render emergency aid to people who hadn’t paid their bill, I can’t imagine firefighters refusing to put out a house fire.


141 posted on 12/06/2011 6:50:17 PM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: apoliticalone
Corporations that were made successful here turned their back on the USA. We needed leaders who were true patriots and instead we got traitors with flag pins who failed to defend our economy and enforce fair trade. They are losers from both sides of the aisle. We needed tariffs and they gave them our free markets.

Apart from the facts that a corporation was not involved in this case, and nor were people with lapel-pins; nor was anyone trying to "defend" the economy, nor "fair trade;" nor would tariffs have helped, and the free market worked in this case . . . you have a point.

142 posted on 12/06/2011 6:53:57 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Graybeard58
They do an often thankless job that's for certain. My county has a county ran ambulance service. All things considered including remote areas they do a good job.

One local VFD puts their lives at risk on Halloween. I won't name the community but I've heard these guys get blocked in by cut down trees, burring tires, morons who want to fight them for putting out house or barn fires, you name it.

143 posted on 12/06/2011 6:55:39 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: AlexW

I think government should force people to buy Chevy volts and health insurance, and flood insurance and life insurance and tornado insurance and earthquake insurance and hurricane insurance and termite insurance and random acts of god insurance.

That way we would save tax dollars and be saved reading stories by Freepers that are closet Statists.


144 posted on 12/06/2011 6:57:23 PM PST by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: sand lake bar
Just like I can’t imagine doctors refusing to render emergency aid to people who hadn’t paid their bill, I can’t imagine firefighters refusing to put out a house fire.

And that is the nut of it. If you know they'll put your house fire out for free, what sort of an idiot would pay the $75? Zuccotti Park, here we come!

145 posted on 12/06/2011 6:57:32 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I suppose they expect to be able to buy car insurance after they wreck their car, too?

I could save if I only had to pay for flood insurance in years it actually flooded. Same with life insurance... get a million dollar policy and only pay for it the day before death. Works for me.../s

146 posted on 12/06/2011 6:58:05 PM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: NoGrayZone

I’m not as a rule this blunt but NoGrayZone, you must be a different kind of stupid. Volunteer firefighters simply means the labor is provided by unpaid firefighters. They still have to have the several millions of dollars of shinny red stuff and 100s of hours of training and a place to house all their stuff. Someone has to pay for this.

You know stupid, not sure about this fire but the one in 2010 involving this same fire dept., the trailer was actually in a different state than the fire dept. Question? Do you pay local taxes for out of state services? No one does. Maybe you should learn something about fire districts and the costs of running a fire department.

I’m a volunteer fire fighter in PA. I don’t get one cent for my efforts although I have all kinds of state and national certifications and a ton of training. I’m also a volunteer EMT. Last January, while on a volunteer ambulance call, I slipped on the ice and broke my left tibia and fibula. I now have a plate, seven screws and a pin in my left lower leg.

Question? Who do you think paid for all that medical and loss of work from my regular job and all the therapy?

Answer: Although I’m a volunteer, the township (or fire district) by law maintains workmans comp insurance for volunteeers. Fire fighting is very dangerous. One of my fellow firefighters fell through the foor of a trailer and has an almost identical tib/fib fracture with internal fixation as mine. If my fire district did not maintain the insurance via tax payer funding we would both be basically screwed.

We cannot train with the state fire academy or through the BCCC without being a member of a fire company and infact we just submitted paperwork to Harrisburg to get water rescue certified and they insisted on knowing who our workmans comp provider is and the policy number before processing our volunteer labor water rescue team application.

The local government is responsible for providing fire protection. The problem is that the unincorporated area where this fire happened does not provide fire protection. They could contract it to a willing fire company or organize their own but they haven’t done so. The awful out-of-county fire dept out of the goodness of their heart offers a subscription service to those who want it. Those who don’t take advantage of it are SOL if their place catches fire. It is really just that simple.

Imagine how you would feel if you lived in the city, pay a fire tax to the dept that offers a subscription service to the rural out-area and your place catches fire. You dial 911 but no response because your tax funded fire dept is out in east bum fu** putting our mrs. too cheap to pay $75.00 per year to protect her single wide and can’t get to your fire for at least 2 hours. Or your 17 year old daughter get’s T-Boned by some hippy in a Dodge Powerwagon and the fire dept can’t cut her out of her car because they are too busy chaising their tails out of district for a person that has no financial investment in your fire department?

Answer those questions and I might applogize for calling you stupid, probably not, but maybe.


147 posted on 12/06/2011 6:59:01 PM PST by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: SuzyQue

It’s a real sobering kick in the pants. The idea that voting can make a difference is becoming laughable.


148 posted on 12/06/2011 7:00:51 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: fatboy
You make a great point about the first fire. South Fulton is in Tennessee and Fulton is in Kentucky. I'm in East Tennessee and this was west Tennessee I think but I do know where South Fulton is.

In Tennessee most VFD {VFD was not the case here though} have mutual aid assist agreements even crossing county lines. If my home was on fire there is a good chance a pumper from a neighboring VFD would be dispatched as well.

149 posted on 12/06/2011 7:07:47 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: momtothree
Please someone tell me that they wouldn’t have just sat outside and watched the house burn with a family inside.

I'm not in this county, but grew up with a private subscription fire service. The county couldn't afford to provide it and the private sector offered a cost effective solution for families who needed it. Reduction in homeowners insurance more than covered the dues. At that time, the FD would intervene in a fire if there was a life at stake without question. If the only threat was to property, they would come but not intervene. Even if you are there, it is still costly to fight a fire.

Liberals say that the government has to run Social Security because people are too stupid and undisciplined to save for themselves. Reading comments from conservatives on this thread, I fear the libs may be right. Kind of sad.

150 posted on 12/06/2011 7:10:47 PM PST by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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