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School turns heating off to ‘save planet’
The Sun ^ | Dec. 6, 2011 | JOHN COLES

Posted on 12/06/2011 5:10:18 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

A HEADTEACHER got a roasting yesterday for turning the school heating OFF on one of the coldest days of the year — to save the planet.

Pupils shivered in coats, hats and scarves as temperatures fell to just 1°C (34°F).

Head Rob Benzie switched off the radiators to show how the secondary school could cut its carbon footprint.

But some staff and parents slammed the "barbaric" plan.

One teacher called it "beyond stupid" and added: "It was absolutely ridiculous.

"I've never worked in such cold. I'm all for saving the planet but this was barbaric.

"Nobody could work properly and kids could not even grip a pen through their gloves." The mum of a 12-year-old at Ansford Academy in Castle Cary, Somerset, said: "She was shaking when she came home. I was absolutely furious."

A dad added: "Turning the heating off in December is just mental.

"I can't believe the kids learnt anything. I'm very angry with the school."

But Mr Benzie, 52, defended the "successful" experiment last Friday — locally the coldest day of the winter so far — and vowed to stage regular "eco-days" at the 640-pupil school.

He said: "We cut the heat to see if we can lower our carbon footprint. We let pupils wear as many jumpers as they liked.

(Excerpt) Read more at thesun.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: wimpy

1 posted on 12/06/2011 5:10:20 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"You can't fix stupid."

There are a lot of complete morons infesting the planet right now.

2 posted on 12/06/2011 5:13:19 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Solved: CO2 emissions 93% correlated with temperature and soil moisture, NOT human activity!

Carbon cycle questions
Posted on August 4, 2011
by Judith Curry

I just finished listening to Murry Salby’s podcast on Climate Change and Carbon. Wow.

The abstract for his talk is here:

PROFESSOR MURRY SALBY
Chair of Climate, Macquarie University
Atmospheric Science, Climate Change and Carbon – Some Facts

Carbon dioxide is emitted by human activities as well as a host of natural processes.

...
Andrew Bolt has some reactions in the Herald Sun:

Salby’s argument is that the usual evidence given for the rise in CO2 being man-made is mistaken. It’s usually taken to be the fact that as carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere increase, the 1 per cent of CO2 that’s the heavier carbon isotope ratio c13 declines in proportion. Plants, which produced our coal and oil, prefer the lighter c12 isotope. Hence, it must be our gasses that caused this relative decline.

But that conclusion holds true only if there are no other sources of c12 increases which are not human caused. Salby says there are – the huge increases in carbon dioxide concentrations caused by such things as spells
of warming and El Ninos, which cause concentration levels to increase independently of human emissions. He suggests that its warmth which tends to produce more CO2, rather than vice versa – which, incidentally is the story
of the past recoveries from ice ages.

http://judithcurry.com/2011/08/04/carbon-cycle-questions/

New research: warmth produces these carbon dioxide concentrations

Professor Murry Salby, chair of climate at Macquarie University, has inleashed on global warming alarmism in a lecture this week to the Sydney Institute.

Salby has worked at leading research institutions, including the US National Center for Atmospheric Research, Princeton University, and the University of Colorado, and is the author of Fundamentals of Atmospheric Physics, and
Physics of the Atmosphere and Climate, due out in 2011.

Salby’s argument is that the usual evidence given for the rise in CO2 being man-made is mistaken. It’s usually taken to be the fact that as carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere increase, the 1 per cent of CO2 that’s the heavier carbon isotope ratio c13 declines in proportion. Plants, which produced our coal and oil, prefer the lighter c12 isotope. Hence, it must be our gasses that caused this relative decline.

But that conclusion holds true only if there are no other sources of c12 increases which are not human caused. Salby says there are - the huge increases in carbon dioxide concentrations caused by such things as spells of warming and El Ninos, which cause concentration levels to increase
independently of human emissions. He suggests that its warmth which tends to produce more CO2, rather than vice versa - which, incidentally is the story of the past recoveries from ice ages.

I’ve summarised this from just a rushed hearing of his lecture, not having access to his notes or the charts he produced on the evening. His findings, he says, have been peer reviewed and accepted for publication, so more will
follow.

Some other highlights of his talk:

He said he had an “involuntary gag reflex” whenever someone said the “science was settled”.

“Anyone who thinks the science of this complex thing is settled is in Fantasia.” The climate models used by global warmists suggest we should have twice the warming we’ve actually seen recently.

Listen here. ... [see for link:]

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/new_research_warmth_produces_these_carbon_dioxide_concentrations

(NB: you may have to cut’n paste that link to make sure you get it all into your browser correctly)


3 posted on 12/06/2011 5:20:29 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He asked the students and they agreed to it.


4 posted on 12/06/2011 5:22:20 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Remove this teacher immediately. His idiocy is ruining young lives.


5 posted on 12/06/2011 5:23:11 PM PST by Walrus (Proud "homophobe" - at least until these people get back in their closets)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Meanwhile, here in the USA, Algore is heating his enormous mansion to a comfy temperature.
Some pigs are more worthy of heat than others.


6 posted on 12/06/2011 5:23:24 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Idiots... What happens when the plumbing freezes and damages pipes/fixtures? How’s that plan looking then?


7 posted on 12/06/2011 5:23:47 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“beyond stupid” sounds pretty accurate.


8 posted on 12/06/2011 5:25:26 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A dad added: "Turning the heating off in December is just mental.

That describes most of environmentalism.

9 posted on 12/06/2011 5:25:43 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

You can’t fix stupid.

You have to eliminate stupid in certain cases.


10 posted on 12/06/2011 5:26:27 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He was teaching his pupils the 3 R`s:
Reading, Writing and Rheumatism


11 posted on 12/06/2011 5:26:47 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Benzie-”Everyone seemed happy enough although it did get pretty chilly. We sent letters to parents telling them of the plan.”

“We had only one complaint and that was from a member of staff. But in the end they just got on with it.”


So what ya gonna do? Students agreed to it and notices were sent to parents beforehand. Parents could have objected and stopped it, but they didn’t.


12 posted on 12/06/2011 5:27:14 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: ThunderSleeps

Yup.

And the Brits have problems with pipes in general because they don’t bury them that deep, but their winters are harsher lately and the frost line is going down farther than before, damaging pipes and freezing the uninsulated on-demand water heater pipes and units.


13 posted on 12/06/2011 5:29:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’d like to introduce him to my footprint.


14 posted on 12/06/2011 5:29:44 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: chessplayer

I guess this reinforces that people who get education “degrees” have the lowest SATs. What a complete government-worker moron. To celebrate this fool-of-a-teacher I’ve started a tire burning in the back yard. Take that and your “carbon footprint” concerns.


15 posted on 12/06/2011 5:30:43 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Something tells me this has less to do with global warming and more to do with the school trying to save money on the heating bill.


16 posted on 12/06/2011 5:33:38 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s SO stupid how these morons have adopted the premise that the planet is something that needs to be saved.... by us. If this were done to one of my kids at school, that would be their final day going to that particular asylum.

What is going to happen with the planet is GOING to happen, regardless of what we do, or whether or not we are even here.

It’s maddening to see commercials on TV playing to these idiotic people. “My car gets good gas mileage. I’m saving the planet!” Such complete and total bullshit.


17 posted on 12/06/2011 5:50:26 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: chessplayer

The parents are the product of the same propagandized school system.

GLOBAL WARMING - GOOD

GLOBAL COOLING - BAD

GLOBAL CHANGE - NORMAL


18 posted on 12/06/2011 5:50:40 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: ThunderSleeps

You really think a teacher knows that? Or the fact that maintaining a constant temp will use far less CO2 then going from 34 to 68.


19 posted on 12/06/2011 5:52:45 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He had been sacrificing virgins to save the planet, and that had worked very well, but it was getting hard to find virgins, so he decided to turn off the heat in the classroom to see if that would also save the planet. Guess what? It worked! The planet is still here!


20 posted on 12/06/2011 6:00:51 PM PST by TChad
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Did he open the windows too? How do you get a large, previously heated building full of people and lights to go down to 34 deg F in one day? Even if he turned off the heat the previous afternoon. Even if it got below freezing overnight.


21 posted on 12/06/2011 6:01:57 PM PST by heartwood
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We are in a Dark Ages marked by the utter, complete, blithering stupidity of mankind.

What in God’s name has happened to us? ><


22 posted on 12/06/2011 6:03:28 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

“We are in a Dark Ages marked by the utter, complete, blithering stupidity of mankind.”

Situation Normal- All Fouled Up. SNAFU.


23 posted on 12/06/2011 6:16:13 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

-31 F here last night—57 degrees variation in one day (high of 26 F the previous afternoon).


24 posted on 12/06/2011 6:17:19 PM PST by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Dogbert41

That is definitely the case, Dogbert.


25 posted on 12/06/2011 6:18:01 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I take it this occurred in Effing, UK.


26 posted on 12/06/2011 6:20:18 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"You can't fix stupid."

Oh, yes, you can. Folks will talk about you, though. And depending on your local grand jury, there may be repercussions.

/johnny

27 posted on 12/06/2011 6:25:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
From the article

"The idea was actually thought up by a small number of pupils from our student eco-group."

He took a bunch of of 12 year old pre pubescent dreamers seriously????

28 posted on 12/06/2011 6:28:48 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Moose Alert!!!! Get some sleeves!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
LOL! Illustrating absurdity with absurdity. This guy is a genius at exposing the fraud of AGW and he doesn’t even know it.
29 posted on 12/06/2011 6:31:28 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Lefty do-gooder: "I'm all for saving the planet"

No you're not...you're all for doing feeeeeel good nonsense that makes you think you are so special, "Look at meeeeee! I'm saving a planet!!!"

but...

That's a mighty big but you have there. Suddenly, when you're inconvenienced, your cause doesn't make you feel so special anymore, does it?

30 posted on 12/06/2011 6:35:07 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Disgusted with it all.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hmm. Now I am wondering if the boiler outage at my daughter’s school yesterday was due to a malfunction or because some idiot turned it off. My daughter said she was so cold she was wearing her coat, scarf, and gloves in the classroom yesterday. Since we live in a liberal part of Oregon, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was another stunt like this.

When I was a kid, they would cancel school if the boiler went out, but apparently now they would rather kids catch more colds instead.


31 posted on 12/06/2011 6:44:15 PM PST by Flamenco Lady
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To: Free ThinkerNY

if we want to save the planet... why don’t we turn off the heat and AC in the JAILS first, before we get to the schools.

It’s infuriates me that prisoners get treated better than our children.


32 posted on 12/06/2011 6:53:32 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just another edumacator acting out his “inner fool”.

Fire ‘em all, then sell the buildings.


33 posted on 12/06/2011 7:38:50 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity. - Lazarus Long

Attempting to 'save' the above convicts oneself, via conspiracy, of the same crime, yielding the same sentence. - Me

34 posted on 12/06/2011 7:39:25 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

kids are a little spoiled these days...but this is going to extremes. I remember when I was a kid, by law they could not go lower than 60 degrees in a public school. They maintained 62 all winter long. We dressed warm.


35 posted on 12/06/2011 7:42:23 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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Kick that dumb piece of crap to the curb, metaphorically.


36 posted on 12/06/2011 7:45:31 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
If all the liberals who truly believe in global warming would personally stop emitting CO2 for just 10 minutes we could end the problem. Call it a primal choke and pass the kool-aid.
37 posted on 12/06/2011 7:45:46 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How the past generations of survival have changed. I was shoveling coal into my schools furnace in the 6th grade. I didn’t need no stinking badge. I was very healthy and 2 other “more strong” students helped out.


38 posted on 12/06/2011 7:49:13 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: theBuckwheat

Here is an idea, why don’t we eliminate this moron’s carbon foot print from the face of the earth. This idiot is the type of individual who would turn off the heat and set fire to the classroom so as to eliminate the use of those mean, awful energy companies raping the earth.


39 posted on 12/06/2011 7:52:10 PM PST by IslamE (Firefighters don't work)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ve got another news flash for those imbeciles. Influenza and colds have maximum pulmonary (coughing and sneezing) transmission at 40F and low humidity. By his actions, that dumbass could cause an epidemic in his school, and for that many children, this could include fatalities.

It will sound very convincing at their funeral to say that “They died to save the planet.” The truth is, they died because of a greedy and opportunistic school administrator, who subjected young children to a dangerously unhealthy ‘environment’.

The proof will be to inquire what happened to the money saved by turning off the heat for an entire school for a day? I will give you odds that nobody knows anything about any missing money, my guess is as many as a couple thousand pounds a day.


40 posted on 12/06/2011 7:59:59 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Is this part of the program “Freeze your balls to save the planet?”
41 posted on 12/06/2011 8:05:50 PM PST by ToxicMich (We don't want a bozo to replace Obozo... (Yep, I am talking about you Bachmann, Perry and Mitt...))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And these kids will now be encouraged to stop global warming?


42 posted on 12/06/2011 8:31:51 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
But Mr Benzie, 52, defended the "successful" experiment last Friday — locally the coldest day of the winter so far — and vowed to stage regular "eco-days" at the 640-pupil school.

He said: "We cut the heat to see if we can lower our carbon footprint. We let pupils wear as many jumpers as they liked.

"Everyone seemed happy enough although it did get pretty chilly. We sent letters to parents telling them of the plan.

"We had only one complaint and that was from a member of staff. But in the end they just got on with it."

Mr Benzie said he hoped for another eco-day next term, adding: "I'd like it to be a regular event. We have too much heating — sometimes I have to turn it down as it can make students fall asleep.

"The idea was actually thought up by a small number of pupils from our student eco-group."

Perhaps Mr. Benzie is the sly one here. Some Eco-kids wanted to turn down the heat and he complied - on one of the coldest days of the year.

The students certainly got a good lesson in life without carbon energy sources. I like the Scrooge-like comment to put on another coat if they were cold. Nice touch!

"Success" indeed!

43 posted on 12/07/2011 12:17:14 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: Free ThinkerNY
He should be out the door as soon as he tried this stunt! He certainly isn't anyone to trust the safety of children with.
44 posted on 12/07/2011 1:23:58 AM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: Moonman62
A dad added: "Turning the heating off in December is just mental.

Parent who put up with this guy are "just mental". Being cold like that is not healthy. Those kids can get sick. What happens if one of them get pneumonia and die? Those parents better be more than mad, they better make sure that nut case is out. It is their children that may be at stake!

45 posted on 12/07/2011 1:27:20 AM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So the British have jackasses running their schools too.


46 posted on 12/07/2011 5:13:52 AM PST by goldi (')
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