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Headline: Shootings prompt personal protection(OH)
Buckeye Firearms Association ^ | 5 December, 2011 | cbaus

Posted on 12/06/2011 5:29:25 PM PST by marktwain

WUPW, Toledo's Fox News affiliate, is reporting that more people are considering carring a concealed handgun in the wake of two violent encounters.

From the report:

"Frightening that you can't go out in public without having to worry about your safety.late at night,” said Derek Mungons, who lives a few blocks from one of the shooting incidents.

Mungons is glad he got a conceal-carry permit. A 9mm pistol is now strapped to his side.

"I do carry and never thought I would," he admitted. "People seem to have less and less respect for other people's property and lives."



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; defense; oh
More people are carrying. More citizens own guns. This makes it harder to push the nanny state.
1 posted on 12/06/2011 5:29:35 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I don’t have CCW. But when I go to downtown Cleveland’s Chinatown, which is in a bad neighborhood, I carry. Better safe than sorry. If I can’t park in a restaurant’s parking lot, I go to a different restaurant. Too bad, because the places with the most Hondas and Toyotas, are the best places to eat.


2 posted on 12/06/2011 5:46:52 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: marktwain

I’d like to offer some edits:

“Frightening that you can’t go out in public without having to worry about your safety.late at night,”

Middle of the day, lunch time, at your kitchen table eating breakfast. Driving down the road. Getting out to pump gas. Stopping in to get a burger. Pushing a cart down the grocer’s aisles. Walking the dog. Getting your mail...

“Mungons is glad he got a conceal-carry permit. A 9mm pistol is now strapped to his side.”

Two blocks away from the latest murders - You’ll find a guy named Derek Mungons. He’s got a 9 mm strapped to his side. You’ll have to sneak up on him, or take him out from a couple yards. (Thanks for blowing his Conceal cover)

“I do carry and never thought I would,” he admitted. “People seem to have less and less respect for other people’s property and lives.”

I’ve been to Toledo. Unless this article was written in 1967, I don’t believe anything has changed.

If you’re interviewed by anyone about guns, Keep it real general and remember that what you say is about to be in print.


3 posted on 12/06/2011 5:51:22 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Yeah, I’m not sure if this post is a really good idea.


4 posted on 12/06/2011 5:52:35 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Celerity

I can’t get a CCW without paying thousands of dollars. I got busted for pot 50 years ago. Never toked again. But that doesn’t matter. I WILL protect myself!


5 posted on 12/06/2011 6:01:06 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Although I have a CCW permit, I seldom carry. Most places in OH are perfectly safe. However, on the rare occasion I choose to visit downtown Cleveland, I go strapped.

Downtown is safe; it is all the “not so safe” neighborhoods that you have to pass through to get downtown that worry me.


6 posted on 12/06/2011 6:01:19 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote)
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To: doc1019

Yeah. The Chinatown neighborhood is surrounded by awful areas. If I have to park on a side street to go to my favorite restaurant, Bo Loong, I ain’t going unarmed. I frequently encounter roving bands of thugs. When I see them approaching, I open my jacket, and put my right hand behind my back. No problems so far.


7 posted on 12/06/2011 6:11:53 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: marktwain

Sometimes I have breakfast with a few older gentlemen. The other morning as we were standing in the parking lot the subject of guns came up. They were all packing. One of the guys had one of those light framed revolvers. It was a .22 magnum with some kind of robust ammunition. I’ve been around this guy many times and never figured he would be armed. Turns out he has a pile of guns. The holster for the one he had that day was beautiful. He has all his holsters custom made.


8 posted on 12/06/2011 6:16:58 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: marktwain

“. A 9mm pistol is now strapped to his side.”

Couldn’t be too concerned else he wouldbn’t be carrying a 9mm. lolololol

My .45 keeps me alive!


9 posted on 12/06/2011 6:24:27 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: marktwain
"People seem to have less and less respect for other people's property and lives."

Welcome to Obama's America.

10 posted on 12/06/2011 6:28:39 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (The Chicago Way isn't the American Way.)
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To: isthisnickcool

I’ve tried all kinds of leather, but nothing beats a Clipdraw on a J-frame for comfort and concealment.


11 posted on 12/06/2011 6:31:13 PM PST by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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To: Forty-Niner

“My .45 keeps me alive!”

Yup! Don’t send a boy to do a man’s job!


12 posted on 12/06/2011 6:38:31 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: marktwain
More people are carrying. More citizens own guns. This makes it harder to push the nanny state.

How so? I don't see the connection.

13 posted on 12/06/2011 6:55:40 PM PST by PENANCE
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To: Forty-Niner

14 posted on 12/06/2011 7:07:16 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
the places with the most Hondas and Toyotas, are the best places to eat

Out West here, the places with the most pickup trucks are the best places to eat!

15 posted on 12/06/2011 7:08:58 PM PST by Rio
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Yup! Don’t send a boy to do a man’s job!

Good move insulting the US Navy SEALS, FBI, US Secret Service, Federal Air Marshals, and Texas Rangers who carry Sig P226s and P229s in 9mm or .357 Sig.

16 posted on 12/06/2011 7:15:31 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: PENANCE; All
More people are carrying. More citizens own guns. This makes it harder to push the nanny state. How so? I don't see the connection.

While carrying a gun does increase your ability to defend yourself, it has a much greatery psycological effect. It says: I have responsibility for myself and my actions. The State is not omnipotent, and cannot protect me everywhere all the time. I have to act as a responsible human being.

It also loudly proclaims that the Constitution does means something, and does impose some limitation on the State.

All of those statements directly inhibit nannystate thinking.

17 posted on 12/06/2011 7:26:10 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Cobra64

That was yesterday’s gun. At the federal level they seem to all be going for Glock .40’s these days. This is a trend, because the feds bought up an s-load of .40 ammo.


18 posted on 12/06/2011 7:36:04 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I have a Sig P229ST in .40 that I've since switched out to 9mm. A good friend has a Glock G22 which I've tried to warm up to as well.

My favorite calibers are 9mm for carry and gaming and .45 auto for bullseye and casual fun.

19 posted on 12/06/2011 7:43:34 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Cobra64
Any gun is better than no gun.

A 45 is really nice but most people I talk to don't carry them because they are just too big to easily conceal.

Carrying doesn't work if you don't carry all the time. My wife used to say she would only carry when she went to some place bad. Now that she has a tiny 38 revolver she can carry all the time. I carry a 9mm. After seeing what it does to trees I would hate to get hit with it. My carry ammo is beefed up hollow points, they really hurt. My little single stack is less than one inch thick, has a belt clip built into it. If I'm dressed I'm packin.

20 posted on 12/06/2011 7:59:26 PM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Forty-Niner
Couldn’t be too concerned else he wouldbn’t be carrying a 9mm.

A month ago I was at a full day training. The instructor looked at the assortment of handguns that we brought in. Then he said that it doesn't matter if you have a 9mm or .45 or anything in between. What matters is timing and shot placement and use of cover. The rest of the day we were focusing on exactly that.

21 posted on 12/06/2011 8:03:22 PM PST by Greysard
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To: pingman

I use a Blackhawk pocket holster for my Ultralite snubby. It’s so comfortable and inconspicuous I carry it everywhere.


22 posted on 12/06/2011 8:34:59 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: marktwain

That’s true. I wasn’t thinking about it that way.


23 posted on 12/07/2011 5:27:28 AM PST by PENANCE
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To: Cobra64

lolol..... I like it! Lots of armchair fun.......

Still, for my money, I’ll go with American Tradition.....Colt celebrated it’s 1911 100 year anniversary with the Goverment Model 1911 this year.......re-built SOC 45s are very popular with the troops.....ever wonder why?


24 posted on 12/07/2011 8:10:30 AM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Greysard; Cobra64

“Then he said that it doesn’t matter if you have a 9mm or .45 or anything in between.”

I’d be nice too when surrounded with armed students! Great tact on the Instructors part! Calibre matters, but profiency must be present there first.......I left that part unstated. Carry what you will.... mine has always begun with a 4.......since 1969...... realizing that should have been your choice in a gunbattle is a little late......

http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs7.htm


25 posted on 12/07/2011 8:24:51 AM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Forty-Niner
I've been a fan of .45 auto for a number of years starting with this Sig Sauer P220ST:

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And of course the venerable 1911:


26 posted on 12/07/2011 10:06:14 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Cobra64

Very nice collection......

I had occassion to regularly visit the Secret Services offices here in town.....They all carried Sig .45 ACPs....I still prefer Col. Colt’s original. If it ain’t broke why “fix” it?

My Series 70, being my first 1911, is still my favorite, the the Baer TR is a better pistol......


27 posted on 12/07/2011 10:25:48 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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