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US Made Covert Plan to Retrieve Iran Drone (but feared to upset Iran)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 7 December 2011 | Julian E. Barnes

Posted on 12/07/2011 5:38:29 AM PST by JOHN ADAMS

U.S. officials considered conducting a covert mission inside Iran to retrieve or destroy a stealth drone that crashed late last week, but ultimately concluded such a secret operation wasn't worth the risk of provoking a more explosive clash with Tehran, a U.S. official said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: capitulation; drone; iran; obama
My impulse is that this is a remarkable failure of will by our country, and that a President who wasn't a coward would have done what needed to be done to get this thing back or destroy it. But I don't have the knowledge or experience to understand precisely what would have been involved in doing that. Comments from FreeRepublic readers gratefully appreciated.
1 posted on 12/07/2011 5:38:35 AM PST by JOHN ADAMS
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To: JOHN ADAMS

U.S. officials considered conducting a covert mission inside Iran to retrieve or destroy a JIMMY CARTER that crashed late last week, but ultimately concluded such a secret operation wasn’t worth the risk of provoking a more explosive clash with Tehran, a U.S. official said.


2 posted on 12/07/2011 5:40:24 AM PST by Blado (2008: Year Zero of the Zombie Apocalypse.)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

This is Jugears’ “Desert One”.


3 posted on 12/07/2011 5:42:15 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

At a minimum, they should have blown it up with a Hellfire missile.

Now the Russians will have the technology, as I’m sure they’ve already paid Iran for the wreckage.

Thanks to our Idiot-in-Chief!


4 posted on 12/07/2011 5:43:33 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: JOHN ADAMS
I'm not sure how one more mysterious explosion in Iran would cause a deterioration of relations with Tehran. I suspect that the Golfer-In-Chief must have had something to do with quashing this idea.
5 posted on 12/07/2011 5:45:43 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

They could have commissioned a couple of Israelis to get the job done.


6 posted on 12/07/2011 5:46:15 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: JOHN ADAMS
A B-2 with a couple of laser guided 2000 lb bombs would have done the trick with none the wiser. The problem is not with the military’s ability to fulfill the mission but the lack of a nut sack by the “won” calling the shots.
7 posted on 12/07/2011 5:48:03 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: JOHN ADAMS

The undocumented one always supports the mullahs
against America.
today, SSDD.
the failure to retrieve is an attempt
by the undocumented impostor for
plausible deniability for the
Obama-planned transfer of USA assets to the mullahs.


8 posted on 12/07/2011 5:50:46 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: G Larry
...as I’m sure they’ve already paid Iran for the wreckage.

With deadly technology.

9 posted on 12/07/2011 5:51:24 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

What, no self-destruct function?


10 posted on 12/07/2011 5:51:53 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Ir never crossed anyone’s minds that these things could crash?


11 posted on 12/07/2011 5:51:53 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

It is likely there is no technology in the wreck worth fighting over. We already know that the design did not include the really secret stealth stuff.

The good stuff is where the computer flying the plane is stored. Radio controlled planes are available for $79 at walmart


12 posted on 12/07/2011 6:01:11 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: JOHN ADAMS
Obama is an effing COWARD!

Mike

13 posted on 12/07/2011 6:05:05 AM PST by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: JOHN ADAMS
So send in stealth aircraft and blow the damn thing up!! Use nukes, if necessary.

OR...we could send over the "bower and scraper" in chief to grovel to the mullahs and plead and whine for them to give it back!!

14 posted on 12/07/2011 6:05:44 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: All
Maybe we wanted them to capture it. And take it back to their secret bunker. And to connect up the computer to their network...Nah.
15 posted on 12/07/2011 6:08:41 AM PST by McGruff (Hold the House, retake the Senate.)
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To: nuconvert

Ping.


16 posted on 12/07/2011 6:22:53 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Rummyfan

Yes, it seems obvious that the craft lacked a self destruct feature. Why is beyond me other then to share of our technology as already pointed out.


17 posted on 12/07/2011 6:26:41 AM PST by mcshot (Neither handsome nor handy but took an oath and will vote to save our Country.)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

I oncee thought that this is a set-up to make the Iranian Mullahs even more nervous. However, with the stupid admission that it was ours, and the follow-up that it was a joint military-CIA drone, it is obvious that once again we are dealing with the usual f-up. If the USA was unwilling to deny its provenance and then did not have the guts to retrieve it, they should have destroyed it. And if they didn’t destroy it the Congress (certainly not the feckless Senate) should demand an explanation from both the Pentagon, the CIA and the White House.


18 posted on 12/07/2011 6:27:41 AM PST by Melchior
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Dear John,

Perhaps it didn’t crash? Perhaps it was a gift for a favor to be announced at a future time. After I leave office.

Signed,

BO


19 posted on 12/07/2011 6:31:23 AM PST by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: G Larry
At a minimum, they should have blown it up with a Hellfire missile.

If Iran hasn't released a picture of their trophy yet, that's probably what we did.

20 posted on 12/07/2011 6:36:19 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: DManA
>>never crossed anyone’s minds that these things could crash?<<

Yea, no kidding. You’da thunk the folks building this thing would have placed some sort of phosphorus charge or similar destructive mechanism.

After all, it's only our sensitive stealth composite material, data transmission capability and advanced optics.

Geezzz

21 posted on 12/07/2011 6:42:30 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Political Correctness has turned the once mighty U.S. to a pack of whipped dogs.

November of 2012 is so far away that I can’t even see it.


22 posted on 12/07/2011 6:45:01 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: servantboy777

We had that technology 40 years ago.

This plane will self district in 10 seconds. Good luck Jim.


23 posted on 12/07/2011 6:47:17 AM PST by DManA
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To: MichaelP
Obama is an effing COWARD!

Exactly. A brave man does not hesitate to send in others to fight.

24 posted on 12/07/2011 6:48:36 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: rightwingextremist1776

We should have dropped a couple of 2000 pounders on it and then later said what had been done to protect the aircraft and secrets. It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. BS takes too long to make a decision (he needs days when seconds count).


25 posted on 12/07/2011 6:58:53 AM PST by toolman1401
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Iranians have been supplying weapons and giving direct support to our enemies in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and we are worried about making them mad?


26 posted on 12/07/2011 7:04:02 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: bert

“We already know that the design did not include the really secret stealth stuff.”

How do we know that? I’ve read conflicting reports on this drone.
We’ve lost a drone or 2 before over Iran and it was no big deal. This time, they thought about a covert operation to get it back. Sounds to me like this was no ordinary drone.


27 posted on 12/07/2011 7:17:25 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: bert

I agree that we did not let something vital into Perisans hands. I believe it was a ruse, but who can be sure when the feds lie about everything and anything?

However I have blind faith (air force brat)
that our space based weapons rule the skys. I dont now if the command will support we the people or the monarchy, all I can do is pray for Gods will.

One thing is for sure IMO. War is on our doorsteps, not just on our southern border, but brutal hardships and the horrors of war will no longer be a “lets buy something at the mall to support the troops.
It will be all over America


28 posted on 12/07/2011 7:23:39 AM PST by winodog
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Sounds like a good decision to me......

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...”A U.S. satellite quickly pinpointed the downed drone, which apparently sustained significant damage, the senior official said.

“The Iranians have a pile of rubble and are trying to figure what they have and what to do with it,” the senior U.S. official said. The drone crashed solely because its guidance system failed, the official said. Officials confirmed to CNN it was an RQ-170 drone that was lost.

Another U.S. official confirmed that when the drone crashed, the United States briefly considered all potential options for retrieving the aircraft or bombing the wreckage, but those ideas were quickly discarded as impractical...”

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/06/downed-drone-was-on-cia-mission/


29 posted on 12/07/2011 7:24:19 AM PST by luckybogey
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To: McGruff

Maybe it contained a Stuxnet update.


30 posted on 12/07/2011 7:24:22 AM PST by RitchieAprile (Renton is the new Bellevue!)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Why are they using drones for recon when spy satellites could do the job?


31 posted on 12/07/2011 7:26:28 AM PST by lwd
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To: lwd

I’m hoping this is a “trojan” drone.

M


32 posted on 12/07/2011 7:30:24 AM PST by Austin Vet (Purveyor of fine lurking since 2000)
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To: nuconvert

-——How do we know that?——

Well of course we don’t really know anything for certain. Since everybody lies we do not know that what we think we know is true

There was a report yesterday or the day before that the B2 like drone had been cleansed of the secret stealth design features and listed a few of them.

The report was here on Free Republic


33 posted on 12/07/2011 7:39:23 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

F U B O


34 posted on 12/07/2011 8:30:34 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao << >> with a floating, shifting, ever changing)
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To: lwd

“Why are they using drones for recon when spy satellites could do the job?”

The enemy knows when the satellites are overhead and cover up.

Cloudy weather.

In the case of Iran, they are doing a lot of digging and building into mountain sides and UAV’s offer a side view.

Well, we’re building a nice cover story. The Iranians have been complaining about UAV’s for some time. If we knew the location of the downed UAV, we could easily sent ordinance down range to crater it, with out detection.


35 posted on 12/07/2011 9:21:17 AM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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