Skip to comments.The Real Newt Gingrich (For all you Romney haters, Gingrich is big government too)
Posted on 12/07/2011 2:50:42 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
John F. McManus anaylzes the voting record and actions of former Congressman Newt Gingrich, revealing that Gingrich is not the conservative he portrays himself to be.
As I've said repeatedly in the past, I will not vote for Romney. I don't see how I could vote for Gingrich either.
Oh come on now.
Romney is a flip flopper and Newt has heroic changes of heart. LOL
I considered putting this in a sidebar, but I’ll leave that to someone else.
I’m anti-Romney, as are most around here on FR.
But for those who can see Romney’s statism as plain as day, it should be just as easy for them to see it in Gingrich too.
So you will be chekcing out for the next 5 years?
I hope you’ve begun watching the video. It’s straight forward, but wow are we being scammed big time.
The only way a tea partier could support this guy is if they didn’t know his record. This guy is a nightmare.
Typical for, shoot-yourself-in-the-foot, conservative "purists."
Both are rinos and both are gonna break our hearts but still gonna support them over obama...
So? Ronald Reagan used to be a lib. Anybody......but......Obama.....
I won't vote for Newt. No way. He's by far the worst of the three. Not even sure I'd vote for him against Obama. I might write in Bugs Bunny if it's Newt v Obama.
But, Newt has plenty of time to implode. Here's hoping he does. And soon.
You can’t point to a “pure” candidate.
one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter i guess
Wow, the John Birch Society doesn’t like Newt. What a shock!
Of course, they thought that Ike and Reagan were Soviet agents, also.
If you want small government, Michele Bachmann is the candidate for you!
What’s a ‘Nemney’/Rowet’ hater to do?
Sorry, most conservatives have read dumpbachmann.com and thats where we get all our information about her.
And Herman, hes a womanizer.
We like Newt cuz hes smart.
And Romney cuz hes next in line.
/sarc just in case you missed it...
I know we’re being scammed.
Since the GOP has decided to hand my state to Romney anyway I’ll be voting my conscience in the primary and probably writing a name in in the general election. Obama will beat Romney here anyway.
Newt can’t beat Romney and Romney can’t beat Obama.
“Used to be” is the key.
We know when Reagan changed.
But you know, way way back like a few days ago? Gingrich did an interview and re-affirmed his big government beliefs.
He has not changed.
The FM/FM “non-lobbying” payments are plenty of evidence for me.
We are in a heck of a pickle.
Oh for crying out loud, this is the second or third time that you have posted this John Birch crap on FR.
No offense, FRiend, but no one give’s a rat’s patootie who you won’t vote for.
I’ll vote for either. Do you care?
Gingrich lugs so much of baggage that he will be pulverized by the $1B Obama machine and the MSM. Expect an Obama landslide if Gingrich becomes the nominee. As George Will wrote Romney-Gingrich is going from “bad to worse.” Why do our primary voters always end up picking losers?
I didn’t realize Gingrich portrayed himself as a Conservative. He’s actually fairly comprehensive and gets into everything here and there.
Contributions often tell the story.
I look for a “hometown” candidate with broad appeal by families and small business. People all across the country - not just in the home state. Lack of massive contributions from companies like the Goldman Sachs. People employed by or owners of small businesses. A variety of industries - not just their favorite special interest group. Etc.
Michele’s contributors: top industries they work in:
1 Retired $680,200
2 Misc Business $117,310
3 Republican/Conservative $110,479
4 Health Professionals $68,095
5 Real Estate $52,404
6 Securities & Investment $49,000
7 Misc Manufacturing & Distributing $47,454
8 Misc Finance $41,576
9 Oil & Gas $37,290
10 Lawyers/Law Firms $36,751
11 Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $33,600
12 Insurance $26,001
13 Computers/Internet $24,351
14 Civil Servants/Public Officials $24,103
15 General Contractors $23,475
16 Crop Production & Basic Processing $22,076
17 Hospitals/Nursing Homes $21,793
18 TV/Movies/Music $21,495
19 Education $19,759
20 Retail Sales $19,355
California $298,786 13%
Minnesota $276,467 12%
Texas $213,958 9%
Florida $205,829 9%
Other States $1,297,006 57%
And her top donors listed these as the companies they were affiliate with:
Hubbard Broadcasting $10,000
Empire Office Inc $10,000
College Loan Corp $10,000
Captive-Aire Inc $10,000
Slumberland Inc $10,000
Carbun Concepts $8,000
KMG Tool $6,001
Hanford, Freund & Co $5,250
Citizens United $5,000
Mohawk Moving & Storage $5,000
Advance Engineering $5,000
Koch Industries $5,000
Crown Assoc Realty $5,000
Clint Pharmaceuticals $5,000
Keeper Technology LLC $5,000
Target Corp $4,500
United Parcel Service $4,500
St Luke’s Hospital $3,700
The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organization’s PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals’ immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.
This information is all available for the ambitious for free at http://www.opensecrets.org
IMHO, drop whatever candidate you like. Take a fresh look at opensecrets for all the candidates. Think about who is really on the side of the little guy, not just talking the talk and then taking huge amounts of contributions from big special interests. Not to say that were won’t be some, but look for unbalanced concentrations.
Gingrich is just a different flavor of Romney. Perry is really starting to look good again. His “sins” are pale in comparison.
Who is not for Romney, but he is simply not eligible.
Romney had a Mexican born father. END OF STORY.
I am not fond of Newt and don’t trust him, but I still hate Mitt Romney MUCH MORE than Newt and trust him even less.
Push comes to shove, I could probably hold my nose and vote for Newt but I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER vote for Romney.
Exactly. There is no difference between Newt, Romney and Huntsman. They are all centrist republicans.
Amnesty, individual mandate, global warming and every trendy liberal cause in the last 10 years, Newt was there.
They are very similar but only Newt has openly attacked tea parties “radical rightwing social engineering” and in ny23.
In primaries, I will not vote for any of them. Amnesty is the main showstopper against Newt.
Well the press and the elites have managed to screw us again. Someone posted on facebook the other day a recording from a recent Roger Hedgecock show an interview of the guy who hired Cain at the NRA (he was the Chairman of the Board). He said Bialek was gone before Cain ever got there so when Cain said he didn’t know her and acted surprised, he was right. The guy said he tried to get this out in the press but no one would listen. Really pisses me off. We always buy into this kind of thing without thinking. If this one is lying what’s to say the 13 year affair lady (with NO proof beyond a couple months of text messages...mostly from her...asking for money) is telling the truth. Why shouldn’t we have as high of a standard of proof for the ACCUSERS as we do for the one being accused. It sickens me because we do this to ourselves every single damn time.
Newt fancies himself an intellectual with an answer for every problem. Unfortunately, he views government as the solution to every problem. I hope he has a genuine change of heart towards the virtues of smaller government. Government is the problem.
Many of the businesses might want a pro-growth POTUS, like Bachmann:
‘Congresswoman Bachmann received a 100% score in the Club for Growths 2010 scorecard and has a lifetime score of 94%. The average house Republican score from 2007-2010 was 78%.’
You aren’t kidding about that. I said nearly a year ago that Obama was going to be re-elected, and I can’t believe that we’re sitting here witnessing it happen. Gingrich has huge support amongst tea partiers, and I hope that can be changed in time for the primaries.
Gingrich is Newt & improved!
of course not, silly. That's my point: Who will fill the bill after Newt is discarded? Huntsman?
But for those who can see Romneys statism as plain as day, it should be just as easy for them to see it in Gingrich too.
Glad you pinged Jim Robinson. He posted this;
Wed Dec 07 2011 04:11:16 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) · 54 of 84
Jim Robinson to *****
“It doesnt do our side any good to run down our leading candidate and falsely portray him to be the same as RINO Romney. Theyre polar opposites. Within a few weeks, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum and Huntsman are all going to have to realize they didnt make the cut. Theyre going to have to release their loyal supporters and hopefully theyll encourage them to coalesce behind the more conservative of the leading candidates and the one most likely to take the battle hard against Obama. And that would be Newt Gingrich. RINO Romney must be blocked and Obama defeated. Our future as a free country depends upon it.”
I couldn’t agree more. The relentless tearing down of someone who has a shot at kicking Obama down the stairs needs to be supported, not sniped at.
It’s common sense.
Sure is...to 6% of the GOP.
Do you know if that audio(or a transcript) of it is online?
Newt's record in congress is actually quite conservative. We can use his deficit reducing, tax cutting, budget balancing talents right now. And he's an aggressive fighter. We're going to need that.
Romney saddled Massachusetts with budget busting RomneyCare, taxpayer funded "safe and legal" abortion, gay marriage, leftist judges and a completely destroyed Republican label. And RomneyCare did become the model and impetus for ObamaCare.
Not to mention the fact that Newt has the support of the Republican conservative base and the grassroots tea party supporters:
Romney has the support of the establishment elite and shares the moderate/liberal RINO vote:
Who you gonna call?
If there are no pure candidates, then there are no purists.
-—————That’s my point: Who will fill the bill after Newt is discarded?-——————
I’m not so much trying to join one person’s camp as much as I am trying to avoid a big government republican.
I’d gladly vote for Santorum or Bachmann. I’d even take Perry. I have a lot of reservations about Paul, but I don’t think he would grow government and that is by far the number one issue.
Gingrich, Romney, and Huntsman are big government republicans.
I don’t expect anybody can explain to me why I should reject big government to accept big government. Can you?
When was the last time the congress actually cut the deficit and balanced the budget?
Yes, he is. I think he may get a second look from a lot of people.
Gingrich will work tirelessly to solve the singularly most important issue of our time. We just don’t know what he thinks it will be.
But Romney is even to the Left of Newt, which is saying something!
When was the last time the congress actually cut the deficit and balanced the budget?
When the 94 Congress took over to clean up Clinton’s mess using the Contract With America. Newt has been on a long, crooked road since then. That doesn’t mean I won’t support him should he pull this off. He is better than Romney. How much better is the question.
HANG IN THERE, RICK!
Well, that’s a nice positive attitude./s
With people like you - 2012 will be ushering in an Obama second term.
And how exactly does Gingrich deserve my confidence, my vote?
Romney and Gingrich are career politicians who needed Big Government to be elected.
The Tea Party conservatism is about Limited Government.
Gingrich is politicking as a Limited ‘BIG’ Government politician.
That is a big difference between Limited Government and Big Government.
Gingrich wants conservative voters to COMPROMISE. That is what RINOS do. AND WE ALL DO NOT LIKE RINOS.
Are you still willing to compromise on a Limited Big Government politician?
If you do, then you aren’t Tea Party.