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Errant 'Mythbusters' cannonball hits home in Dublin
contracostatimes.com ^ | 6 December, 2011 | Paul Thissen

Posted on 12/07/2011 6:54:14 PM PST by marktwain

A cannonball misfired by the "Mythbusters" TV show crew blasted through an East Dublin home Tuesday afternoon while its occupants were asleep. It then smashed through a window of a minivan parked a few hundred feet away.

No one was injured, and the home's residents did not wake up until the dust was settling on top of them, said an Alameda County Sheriff's Office spokesman.

The cannon was shot at the Sheriff's Office bomb range behind Santa Rita Jail about 4:15 p.m., said the spokesman, J.D. Nelson, who is also a consultant for the Discovery Channel TV show. He had been at the site with show producers all day, he said, though he said he was not by the cannon when it fired.

which they built -- at the range more than 50 times without incident, Nelson said.

Tuesday was different.

The cannonball was supposed to go through a few water-filled barrels and a concrete wall. Instead, it passed over the barrels, through the wall, and then took a "very unfortunate bounce that sent the ball skyward," Nelson said.

About 700 feet away, it bounced in front of a home on Cassata Place, then tore upward through the home's front door and out midway up the back wall of the two-story house. Light could be seen shining through a round, cantaloupe-sized hole from inside the house out to Tassajara Road.

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1 posted on 12/07/2011 6:54:17 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Muzzleloading cannon are generally legal to own and shoot without any license.
2 posted on 12/07/2011 6:55:25 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: marktwain

LOL it was bound to happen eventually.


3 posted on 12/07/2011 6:56:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: marktwain

Can’t wait to see this episode! Also, I’m waiting for the knee-jerkers to scream that “something needs to be done!!!!” about the show.


4 posted on 12/07/2011 6:56:30 PM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: marktwain

Wow! That’s a heck of a lesson in “inertia.”


5 posted on 12/07/2011 6:56:57 PM PST by mvpel
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To: marktwain

They were cleaning it and it just went off. Coulda happened to anybody.


6 posted on 12/07/2011 6:57:29 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: marktwain

Now that’s a cannonball...


7 posted on 12/07/2011 6:57:33 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: arderkrag

I’m actually mostly amazed that the Sheriff’s department has a bomb range.


8 posted on 12/07/2011 6:58:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: marktwain

See Also:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2817137/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2816988/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2817346/posts


9 posted on 12/07/2011 6:58:55 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: marktwain

What is it they say at the beginning of the show? “The Mythbusters are experts with years of professional experience. Don’t try this at home”.


10 posted on 12/07/2011 6:59:46 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: marktwain

Oops!


11 posted on 12/07/2011 7:03:27 PM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: marktwain

I wonder what their insurance rates are to film a show like that?


12 posted on 12/07/2011 7:04:20 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: marktwain
Instead, it passed over the barrels, through the wall, and then took a "very unfortunate bounce that sent the ball skyward," Nelson said.

It's called grazing fire with solid shot. Was a favorite for about a century. Ugly results into massed ranks. It just don't stop. See Gettysburg for the results.

/johnny

13 posted on 12/07/2011 7:08:55 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek

You shouldn’t be, given what section of the country it’s in, and also given the time we live in.


14 posted on 12/07/2011 7:10:06 PM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m actually mostly amazed that the Sheriff’s department has a bomb range.

Wouldn't you? If you could? I know I would.

/johnny

15 posted on 12/07/2011 7:10:10 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: marktwain
Mayhem strikes again
16 posted on 12/07/2011 7:16:40 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: JRandomFreeper
Actually I've been thinking more along the lines of a trebuchet for chucking water balloons at my neighbor when he's out on his raft.

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Maybe I'll get some Michigan FReepers together and lay siege to Ann Arbor.
17 posted on 12/07/2011 7:20:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: marktwain

Adam Savage apology
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/12/mythbusters-accident-adam-savage-apologizes.html


18 posted on 12/07/2011 7:21:24 PM PST by SMGFan
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To: mvpel
Wow! That’s a heck of a lesson in “inertia.”

Well, technically momentum, not inertia...

19 posted on 12/07/2011 7:22:51 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: marktwain

WEll, I guess that their insurance premiums just went up.


20 posted on 12/07/2011 7:24:40 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: cripplecreek
Don't get me started on trebuchets.... I want one large enough to fling a piano.

I'm still working on the build/buy decision on the part of the timbers. I could buy a woodlot, rent a portable sawmill... and maybe actually get the trebuchet with a few $$s from the woodlot.

Or I could just go to Lowes and have it next week. And be out the cash and opportunity cost.

I'm torn. It's a certain cognitive humdinger.

/johnny

21 posted on 12/07/2011 7:25:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: marktwain
The cannon was shot at the Sheriff's Office bomb range behind Santa Rita Jail...

That's by the Camp Parks Army Reserve Base. They should have known better. They should have aimed the cannon at Pleasanton. We hate Pleasanton. It's too... pleasant.

-PJ

22 posted on 12/07/2011 7:27:16 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: marktwain

In the Civil War many a MidWest farm boy lost a lower leg when he kicked at a cannonball rolling through the Infantry lines. Mother Nature in the name of inertia is a bitch!


23 posted on 12/07/2011 7:27:22 PM PST by TaMoDee (GO PACK GO to Super Bowl XLVI)
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To: marktwain

I thought the headline was a metaphor, and not a very good one. But they’re talking about a real canonball!


24 posted on 12/07/2011 7:28:21 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: cripplecreek
lay siege to Ann Arbor.

I just checked on Google Earth. Ann Arbor doesn't have a city wall. So forget the siege towers, and concentrate on arty, foot, and horse.

/johnny

25 posted on 12/07/2011 7:28:21 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yup, See Post 23.


26 posted on 12/07/2011 7:30:41 PM PST by TaMoDee (GO PACK GO to Super Bowl XLVI)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Northern exposure had a couple of interesting trebuchet moments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWxrt3bEnBs&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJgt-HO0_kY&feature=related


27 posted on 12/07/2011 7:31:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: marktwain

It went all the way from Alameda County, California to Ireland? Wow!


28 posted on 12/07/2011 7:35:59 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: rdl6989
I wonder what their insurance rates are to film a show like that?

I rarely watch the show any more. Having BHO on, and sucking up to Jon Stewart was way too much to overlook.

Any way, I saw an early epi in which a producer, on the phone with the insurance carrier, prevented one of them from trying some movie stunt [that Buster survived with shock tags intact] because the insurance carrier wouldn't approve.

29 posted on 12/07/2011 7:36:03 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: cripplecreek
I actually just checked on flatbed 48' trailers again. They dropped the price on the one in Little Rock to $10,495. Leaf springs, of course, a trebouchet doesn't need air-ride.

I wish I hadn't seen your dratted picture. I'm going to spend the next 2 hours stuck in a spread-sheet, and pulling prices. ;)

And figuring out how to explain to my heirs that daddy just has different hobbies....

I won't have to explain it to my grandsons... They get that kind of 'go boom' stuff.

/johnny

30 posted on 12/07/2011 7:44:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: rdl6989
I wonder what their insurance rates are to film a show like that?

Each show probably covered under a blanket general liability policy written for the production company and then placed under several surplus policies full of exclusions.

31 posted on 12/07/2011 7:49:19 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: cripplecreek
LOL it was bound to happen eventually

The eternal quest of the hand loader. How much powder can I put in that case. How much lead can I put in front of the powder with out the whole damn thing blowing up and how far and how fast will it go, accurately of course. Might I be so bold as to suggest they forgot the part about accuracy and how far.

It reminds me of my youth. In 1961 (I am old now) I was doing a bit of experimenting with acetylene. I figured out how to make it and then decided to burn some. Unfortunately due to my ineptness I allowed some air to get in the mixture. It did not burn, it exploded along with the glass container it was in. My grandmother came running out of the house to where I was. I had numerous small scratches and cuts on my arms but nothing to my face and eyes. She asked what happened. I answered 100% truthfully, "I think I made a mistake."

She did not know about the nitroglycerin that I had made and keep in the freezer. I disposed of it post haste.

My best friend in high school was the son of a chemist. His dad was a great guy. Unfortunately he gave us unsupervised access to his lab. It is a damn miracle that we did not blow up both our houses.

32 posted on 12/07/2011 8:01:27 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: rdl6989

“I wonder what their insurance rates are to film a show like that?”

Now?

About 5 time what they were before this stunt!


33 posted on 12/07/2011 8:12:14 PM PST by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Well, “technically”,:

“Inertia: tendency of an object to resist changes in its velocity.”

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/u2l1c.cfm#state


34 posted on 12/07/2011 8:17:09 PM PST by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: marktwain

Major ooops! If only they’d make this into a show entitled, “We are professionals, please do not attempt this at home”, lol.


35 posted on 12/07/2011 8:59:56 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: cripplecreek
I've been thinking more along the lines of a trebuchet for chucking water balloons

You might want to review what happened with the Roloff's pumpkin chunkin' trebuchet on "Little People, Big World" from a few seasons ago. Not a pretty sight. Two in the hospital.

36 posted on 12/07/2011 9:04:18 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: marktwain

A continent and an ocean: some shot!

37 posted on 12/07/2011 9:11:53 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: cripplecreek

Love this “Unpimp The Auto” VW commercial using a trebuchet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuC6jeKjTdg

The other two are funny, also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfWScRkqqRo&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEvy60bZYI&feature=relmfu


38 posted on 12/07/2011 9:14:38 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m actually mostly amazed that the Sheriff’s department has a bomb range.

Where do you think they dispose of the toy guns, chicken fingers and Advils seized from elementary school felons?

39 posted on 12/07/2011 9:20:24 PM PST by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: marktwain

bttt


40 posted on 12/07/2011 9:25:03 PM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: JRandomFreeper

You have a road tractor (and a class A license) to pull the trailer, or is it a goose neck rig that say, a 1 ton or better PU with a fifth wheel hitch could haul?


41 posted on 12/07/2011 10:14:05 PM PST by BlueDragon (there is only one "form")
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To: Political Junkie Too
That's by the Camp Parks Army Reserve Base
I didn't know that was still there. My oldest brother was in the Air Force and was stationed there around 1955.
42 posted on 12/07/2011 11:30:41 PM PST by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: BwanaNdege

It’s been a long time since I took physics but as I remember it inertia was the tendency of a body at rest to stay at rest.


43 posted on 12/08/2011 4:30:21 AM PST by Hacklehead (Democrats define "fairness" as taxing the rich until they have no more than anyone else.)
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To: Hacklehead
It’s been a long time since I took physics but as I remember it inertia was the tendency of a body at rest to stay at rest.

Or in motion. To paraphrase Newton, inertia is the tendency of a body to resist a change in its state, whether it is at rest or moving at a uniform speed in a straight line.

Roughly speaking, because of inertia it will take the same amount of energy to stop a cannonball, as it does to fire it out of the cannon. Which is why they don't stop moving when they hit houses, cars, redcoats, and so forth.

44 posted on 12/08/2011 5:24:52 AM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: RansomOttawa

“It’s been a long time since I took physics but as I remember it inertia was the tendency of a body at rest to stay at rest. Or in motion.”

I forgot that last part, thanks.


45 posted on 12/08/2011 5:36:14 AM PST by Hacklehead (Democrats define "fairness" as taxing the rich until they have no more than anyone else.)
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To: BwanaNdege
"Inertia" in the sense of linear motion, is the layman's term of how an object resists changes in motion. But it's not really correct because there is no way to calculate inertia. What's the formula for linear inertia? What are its units? It you read through the physics page you posted, and thinking about how far the cannonball moved despite barriers, you'll find that they are actually talking about momentum: Momentum = mass * velocity. Or when they're talking about the resistance to a change in linear motion, they're simply talking about mass.
46 posted on 12/08/2011 5:42:18 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-momentum-and-vs-inertia/

Momentum vs Inertia

Inertia and momentum are two concept involved in the study of motion of solid bodies. Momentum and inertia are used to describe the current state of the object. Both inertia and momentum are concepts related to the mass of the object. Inertia and momentum are relativistic variants, which mean the equations for calculating these properties vary when the velocity of the object approaches the speed of light. However, Inertia and momentum plays a very important role in both Newtonian mechanics (classical mechanics) and relativistic mechanics.

Momentum

Momentum is a vector. It is defined as the product of the velocity and the inertial mass of the object. Newton’s second law is mainly focused on momentum. The original form of the second law, force = mass x acceleration, can be written in terms of velocity change as: force = (mass x final velocity – mass x initial velocity)/time. In a more mathematical form, this can be written as change of momentum/time. The acceleration described in Newton’s formula is actually an aspect of momentum. The momentum is said to be conserved if no external forces act on a closed system. This can be seen in the simple instrument “balance balls”, or scientifically known as Newton’s cradle. Momentum takes the forms of linear momentum and angular momentum. The total momentum of a system is equal to the combination of linear momentum and angular momentum

Inertia

Inertia is derived from the Latin word “iners”, which means idle or lazy. Inertia is a measurement of how lazy the system is. Inertia of a system gives us the meaning how hard it is to change the current state of the system. The higher the inertia of a system, harder it is to change the velocity, acceleration, direction of the system. Objects having higher masses have higher inertia. That’s why they are hard to move. Given that it is on a frictionless surface, a moving higher mass object would be hard to stop too. Newton’s first law gives a very good idea about inertia of a system. It states “an object not subject to any net external force, moves at a constant velocity”. This tells us that an object has a property that is not changed, unless, there is an external force acting upon it. An object at rest can also be considered as an object having null velocity. In relativity, the inertia of an object tends to be infinity when the speed of the object reaches the speed of light. Hence an infinite force is required to increase the current velocity. It can be proved that no mass can reach the speed of light.

What is the difference between momentum and inertia?

- Momentum is a physically calculable property, while inertia cannot be calculated using a formulae.

- Inertia is just a concept to help us understand and define mechanics better.

- While, momentum comes in the forms of linear momentum and angular momentum, the inertia comes only in one form.

- Momentum is conserved in some cases. Momentum conservation can be used to solve problems. Inertia doesn’t have to be conserved in any case.


47 posted on 12/08/2011 7:31:34 AM PST by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: BwanaNdege
Thanks for the post - that really helped to set things in my mind for these two terms.

...and nothing describes the difficulty of stopping or starting federal programs like the term "bureaucratic inertia"!

48 posted on 12/08/2011 2:45:30 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: BwanaNdege

How about....

ertia = moving
inertia = not moving
ertia minor = moving just a little

Thanks...and don’t forget to tip the waiters.


49 posted on 12/08/2011 2:59:05 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: lewislynn
U.S. Army Reserve: Parks Reserve Forces Training Area.

-PJ

50 posted on 12/08/2011 7:13:35 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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