Skip to comments.LIVE: House Judiciary Hearing on Operation Fast and Furious
Posted on 12/08/2011 7:52:17 AM PST by thouworm
Watch live on C-SPAN3
or on the internet at this link:
Live on internet here:
Issa Starts Fast And Furious Scandal Website
Nothing will happen to this communist lowlife racist lying scumbag creep. He just won’t answer any questions he doesn’t want to, won’t give any documents that he doesn’t want to, and he’ll just perjure himself relentlessly, and prolifically. He knows he will not be held responsible or prosecuted for anything whatsoever. These bastards are all criminals, and seemingly above the law these days. I hope he has a damn heart attack.
Good live blogging at link below for those who want to catch up on the hearing or those who can’t watch live.
Thanks for that link. Issa came out firing in his opening statement. When I find the transcript, I will post.
Holder is ever the arrogant stonewalling weasel.
Smokeyblue’s link also has LIVE link to the hearing.
From your link:
Key Goals of Investigation
Expose the full scope of Fast and Furious
Deliver the Fast and Furious facts to the American people
Eliminate the program’s dangerous investigative techniques
Discover who is responsible for starting Fast and Furious
Discover who is responsible for implementing Fast and Furious
Discover which high-level government officials knew about Fast and Furious
Discover which high-level government officials approved Fast and Furious
Expose high-level government officials who failed to stop Fast and Furious
Hold accountable those responsible for Fast and Furious
Protect taxpayers’ rights to Congressional oversight of the Executive Branch
My Congressman obviously came armed and ready to take on Holder..........Update at 10:25am EST: Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) asks Holder if he thinks the ‘buck stops with you.’ Holder basically accepted responsibility without accepting accountability. He also referred to the February 4th letter that DOJ ultimately withdrew. Called for Deputy Attorney General Lanny Breuer to be fired. Sensenbrenner is asserting that someone at the DOJ ‘lied’ and that ‘heads should roll.’ Holder says no one at the Justice Department ‘lied’ (that’s a lie).
Update at 10:29am EST: Wow. Sensenbrenner is threatening impeachment. In response, Holder whips out the tired ‘Inspector General’ argument.
Holder questioned about the “inaccuracies” in the letter given by DOJ to congress and subsequently withdrawn was based on information given by underlings to supervisors then passed on by this letter.
Why wasn’t the follow up to his statement - which underlings gave this “inaccurate” information and why haven’t they been fired?
Answering your question here also.
Chairman announced they have to adjourn to vote. They will take NO lunch recess and will reconvene when the voting is finished (expected to be about 20 min). Hearing will end at 1:15pm.
Issa has enough goods on Holder that he (thru his subordinates) confessed “I lied to Congress under oath”.
Issa is just boxing him in now so it doesn’t matter what he does or doesn’t do, he’s toast.
And in related news, Blagojevich was just convicted to 14 years for much less, involving a certain player also involved in F&F. There’s lots of hope.
And I'm not at all surprised that the Dems are doubling down asking what more can Congress do to help you - oh beloved Mr. Holder.
Nothing pisses me off more than when I'm on a conservative site discussing how crooked, devious and evil our govt has become and someone posts “your tinfoil is on a little too tight”. Watch this crap and tell me that.
Issa has used that question before, and I expect we’ll hear it again before the day ends.
Nice link. Thanks. Gonna be entertaining.
The word “impeachment” was used in earnest.
Good. Nice to see who tops the “Players” chart.
Answer by Holder to Sensenbrenner to the question: “What’s the difference between lying and misleading Congress in this context (regarding the withdrawn letter):
Holder:”well...eh, if you want to have this legal argument, conversation, it all has to do with your state of mind and whether you had the requisite intent to come up with something that can be considered perjury or a lie.”
Sensenbrenner: The wagons down the street are in a pretty tight circle, Mr AG. The American people need the truth. And they haven’t gotten the truth from what has been coming out of the Justice Dept in the last year and they are relying on Congress to get the truth.
Update at 11:37am EST: Rep. Mel Watt (D-NC) is announcing that he’s not going to talk about Fast and Furious. Instead, he’s going to highlight the Attorney General’s positives (time for a power nap).
Before I start dozing, it’s interesting to note that Watt is a registered member with the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) caucus.
Update at 11:45am EST: Rep. Elton Gallegly (R-CA) is asking Holder about welfare fraud?! Important topic but it would be nice to see him yield his time to an F&F expert. A corrupt Justice Department is on the ropes over gun-walking, not Eastern European gangs who are exploiting our welfare system.
This is a welcome breather for Holder courtesy of a Republican. Again, important topic but not the best use of Gallegly’s time.
What is the matter with these Repubs??? Are they this clueless? or is it deliberate?
jackson lee is an ass
yep...and the Marxist Dems have no problem coordinating their efforts to stonewall and obfuscate and use the clock and get back to their talking point -— gun control!
now we get a 2-fer, waters is making an ass of herself
Update at 11:52am EST: Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) has a bizarre hair-do. Is displaying her ignorance by comparing Fast and Furious with Wide Receiver under Bush administration. Her indignation at a perceived attack on Holder is clear. Anyone seeing a trend with the Democrats?
Update at 11:55am EST: Rep. Lee is now saying Alberto Gonzalez, Attorney General in the Bush administration, covered up ‘torture memos’ while Holder is being forthcoming about Fast and Furious (yes, that’s insane). Holder’s Department has stonewalled for nearly a year and recently withdrew a letter it submitted to Congress because it was false.
Update at 12:03pm EST: Ruh Roh. Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) is up. Yes, she’s nuts, she’s partisan, and she is a registered member with the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) caucus as well.
Thanks for the ping. I am watching .They are speaking of the DISTINCTION between OPERATION WIDE RECEIVER under BUSH and FAST AND FURIOUS.
WATCH LIVE LINK
Dan Lungren back on track...but just barely...
She had the audacity to blame Bush.
cali congressman lungrin did a good job
Lungren (paraphrase): When you screw up, you ought to say you screwed up and then not use your screw up to extend your authority and your legislative agenda
Hank Johnson is a moron. A total idiot. A retard. He is proving it right now....
what a friggin brain trust
Someone should have raised a point of order that the topic was not germane to the committee's needs or purpose and demanded that Watt either revise his course of questioning or yielded his time.
the world must be laughing its ass off at our *leadership*...
It’s very difficult to understand how this moron got elected to anything, period. Sheesh.
What if all the licensed gun dealers were to stand on the edge of Guam? Would it tip over? Hank Johnson is a moron. A total idiot. A retard. He is proving it right now....
lol. Doesn’t matter as long as he can take orders and follow the talking-point directives issued to him and the rest of the Dems. They function like an ant colony.
I have numerous friends that happen to be black. All of them are pretty darn smart people. I wish they were morons. They could get high paying jobs in Washington. That is obviously what Obama is looking for.
Issa called out Holder about calling the NRA kooks or whackos?What did I miss when did Holder do this?
So I went to FOX and they were still showing it.
When an interesting informative Rep representative started asking important questions, they departed the stream.
So I went to CSPAN 3 on the TV.
Man, what a smarmy degenerate lying Obama sycophant Marxist/Socialist bastard Holder is.
She is using the typical lame excuse of the left, the other side did it, so it's okay if our (their) side does it, even though the other (our side) followed the law
I hear Shelia Jackson-Lee. She is about as smart as Hank Johnson.
“Issa is on now. None of the Email records subpoenaed and provided were Holders, he held those back.”