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Holder Hearings Part I: Issa strikes a blow, & Sensenbrenner says Holder could face impeachment
Big Government ^ | 12-8-11 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 12/08/2011 9:16:39 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

Once Lamar Smith (R-TX) opened the hearings with comments on Fast and Furious and then passed the baton to Congressman John Conyers (D-MI), it seemed the hearings would be a wash. That’s because it was evident from the start that Conyers was there to carry water for Holder. For example, Conyers used his opening comments to highlight the “life and contributions” of Holder, and to highlight the need for more gun control in the United States. He particularly supported the new requirement for border state gun stores to file special reports on customers who make multiple long gun purchases. (Conyers made no mention of the thousands of long guns transferred to criminals via the DOJ/ATF operation Fast and Furious.)

Congressman Bobby Scott (D-VA) used his opening comments to call for more gun control, and was particularly critical of concealed handgun laws and of Republican support of concealed handgun laws. Moreover, Scott actually defended Holder by blaming gun walking on President Bush. (For the record, there was an operation called Wide Receiver under Bush, but it was very small and was done in conjunction with the Mexican government rather than by keeping the Mexican government in the dark as Holder did with Fast and Furious.)

Folks, the whole tone of the hearing changed when Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) was allowed to make his opening statement. He contented that gun control was not the important matter before the committee. Rather, “what is important is the 2nd Amendment.” Added Issa, “ATF Used Fast and Furious to make case for gun regulations”

After this opening salvo, Issa was on a roll:

This administration is more interested in building data bases, in talking about control, than controlling the flow of guns they had control over. …[Fast and Furious] was not an accident. This project was failed and flawed from the beginning.

Issa went on to make the point that “Brian Terry is dead today because of this program,” yet Holder and Co. are hesitant to investigate Terry’s murder for fear of uncovering their own culpability to a greater degree. Said Issa: “This justice department is not looking for who killed Brian Terry” in order to preserve their own “plausible deniability.”

Issa continued:

The president has said he has full confidence in this attorney general. I have not confidence in a president who has not terminated those…who knew enough to stop this program. …Mr. attorney general, the blame must go to your desk. Why haven’t you terminated the many people involved?

Once the opening comments were over, and the actual hearing began, Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI) warned Holder that he was tired of not getting the truth on Fast and Furious. He complained that up till now, Holder’s answers had been “gees, somebody else did it.”

Sensenbrenner then basically said we can do this the easy way or the hard way. He told Holder that the A.G. could either give Congress the truth they were asking for or “impeachment” could be pursued.

That’s right: Sensenbrenner said “impeachment” to Holder’s face.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ag; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; hearings; holder; holder4criminals; holder4murderers; holder4terrorists; holdervsamerica; holdervsconstitution; holdervsjustice; impeachment; noaccountability; obama

1 posted on 12/08/2011 9:16:43 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

You bunch of whiney little girls, impeachment?? what about TREASON?? Every last person involved including Holder should have already been brought up on charges of TREASON, they should be HANGED BY CHRISTMAS,. Anyone that votes for one of these pathetic losers to be re-elected deserves what they get.

FIRE EVERY LAST ONE OF THESE RAT BASTARDS, The New congress should clean house and CHARGE THE WHOLE BUNCH WITH TREASON.

EXECUTE ALL OF THEM UPON BEING FOUND GUILTY, Right on the WHITE HOUSE LAWN.


2 posted on 12/08/2011 9:21:10 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Wow, someone passed around the testosterone! Way to go guys!

Please, do it the hard way!

Mike

3 posted on 12/08/2011 9:22:47 AM PST by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: eyeamok

Feel better now? Using FR for political masturbation will make you go blind.


4 posted on 12/08/2011 9:25:19 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: eyeamok
You bunch of whiney little girls, impeachment?? what about TREASON??

Any trial for treason would be prosecuted by an Obama-appointed attorney. So, forget it until 2013 at the earliest.

5 posted on 12/08/2011 9:27:22 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Please, Please Newt- give some consideration to Daryl Issa for your Vice President selection.


6 posted on 12/08/2011 9:28:14 AM PST by matthew fuller (Hey Buckwheat- What the Hell are we paying you for?...(GO NEWT!))
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To: eyeamok

patience people, patience........remember, holder, napolitano and clinton are targets, but not the main target... the main target is fubo, and the first one to fold gets the deal....the rest get a cell... I predicted last month that by the time christmas gets here, we will have the first domino fall...


7 posted on 12/08/2011 9:29:33 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

” He told Holder that the A.G. could either give Congress the truth they were asking for or “impeachment” could be pursued.”

Impeachment sounds good to me. Start with Holder and move up a level.


8 posted on 12/08/2011 9:30:34 AM PST by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: sam_paine

Tell me about it, I just got stronger reading glasses yesterday. This whole charade is bordering on ridiculous.

Who is John Galt?? me, any day now.


9 posted on 12/08/2011 9:30:43 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: afraidfortherepublic

All Holder has to do is say “You are all racist!”, and the GOP committee members will cringe and whine “Please like me...”


10 posted on 12/08/2011 9:32:20 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: joe fonebone

Sorry , I have absolutely NO FAITH in anyone in Congress to EVER do WHATS RIGHT or Follow the LAW or CONSTITUTION. This is and will always be a Dog and Pony Show, only We the People are the Suckers.


11 posted on 12/08/2011 9:37:31 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: PapaBear3625

Not if OBAMA is also Charged.


12 posted on 12/08/2011 9:39:24 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Congressman Bobby Scott (D-VA) “represents” the highly gerrymandered 3rd congressional district. The areas included in “his” district are not even contiguous. They were carefully chosen so as to assure that a black person, regardless of said black person's qualifications, or lack thereof, would be elected to congress in Virginia.

The 3rd district includes the cities of Newport News, Portsmouth, Norfolk and Richmond.

Compared to the rest of Virginia, the cities of Newport News, Portsmouth, Norfolk and Richmond are crime-ridden hell-holes.

Coincidence? I think not...

13 posted on 12/08/2011 9:39:45 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: eyeamok

you have to remember, it took over 2 years to get charges going in watergate.... and it resulted in the takedown of a sitting president... this thing dwarfs watergate, and we have a communist run senate and a communist president.. this has to be so airtight that refusing to impeach will be seen as treason... all the dominoes are lined up, and all that is needed is the first one to fall...then the rest go real quick.... give it a little time, and enjoy the show ( and listen to the lies and laugh )... this is gonna be good!!!!!!


14 posted on 12/08/2011 9:49:04 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Barkeep!

I’ll take Fast&FuriousGate straight-up, and a...

...DrugCartelMoneyLaundering back.


15 posted on 12/08/2011 10:00:37 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: sam_paine; eyeamok

>> Using FR for political masturbation will make you go blind.

Yeah, but DAMN! does it feel GOOD. :-)

Anyway, eyeamok voiced (er... typed) a reasonable facsimile of what I was thinking so now I don’t have to pleasure myself that way.


16 posted on 12/08/2011 10:05:36 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Black democrat impeachment.Would he be the FIRST?.
Lot’s a luck with that.


17 posted on 12/08/2011 10:20:35 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: eyeamok

” Anyone that votes for one of these pathetic losers to be re-elected deserves what they get.”

that isn’t very comforting, because I/WE don’t deserve what they get for us


18 posted on 12/08/2011 10:21:53 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; eyeamok
Congressman Bobby Scott (D-VA) used his opening comments to call for more gun control, and was particularly critical of concealed handgun laws and of Republican support of concealed handgun laws.

These a$$hats have no shame!

I understand this whole fiasco was carried out,in part, to make the cries for more gun control seem valid to the unwashed masses. It also had other intended purposes IMHO.

When they get caught red handed, here is this (self censored) crying about concealed handgun laws!?!?

Sorry Bobby, you can try and push all the damn gun control laws you want. I for one have learned that when you conceal carry, NOBODY knows!

As of now,I and people I know follow the rule of law concerning firearms. But,if you someday succeed in taking our right to keep and bear arms, then I will no longer "follow the law". Think about that for a minute congressman Bobby, if simple possesion of a firearm makes me a criminal, that means I won't be following the laws that I now do. Real machine guns, silencers anyone?

19 posted on 12/08/2011 10:48:56 AM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: eyeamok

Lighten up, I am sure that Issa will get really, really mad.


20 posted on 12/08/2011 1:09:54 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: sam_paine

LOL


21 posted on 12/08/2011 2:52:39 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: eyeamok

That would be the best solution, but even an impeachment couldn’t be ignored by the media, and it would heavily damage the Zero admin in the election year.


22 posted on 12/08/2011 3:25:13 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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