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Republican says Fast and Furious was hatched to build support for gun control
The Hill ^ | December 8, 2011 | Jonathan Easley

Posted on 12/08/2011 1:03:32 PM PST by jazusamo

The botched gun-tracking operation Fast and Furious was a plot hatched by the Obama administration to impose stricter gun laws, a House Republican said.

In an interview with the National Rife Association, Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) said the controversial Justice Department operation — which authorized the sale of guns to known and suspected straw buyers for Mexican drug cartels — was a plot from the administration to build support for gun control.

“This was the most anti-gun administration in our country’s history and there are a number of us that believe the whole genesis of this Fast and Furious was to further their gun control aims right here in the United States,” Walsh told NRA reporter Ginny Simone.

“When you look back at Holder’s testimony a few weeks ago — in his opening statement he basically fell back on that again and said — ‘You know what? You may have problems with Fast and Furious, but this just goes to show we need to keep a tighter lid on arms and guns in America that may be leaving the country,’” he continued.

“It was outlandish … and actually, I would say very stupid, that he actually said that, because he revealed their aims,” Walsh said.

Walsh has been vocal in calling for Attorney General Eric Holder’s resignation over the scandal. He said a special prosecutor, who could hold witnesses in contempt of court, is needed to investigate the Department of Justice.

“There does appear to be a real stonewalling effort here that I believe will leave Congress with no alternative but to call for a special prosecutor,” he said. “They haven’t responded to subpoenas, clearly there have been conflicting reports and now evidence as to when he was first aware of Fast and Furious, and now this latest dump of material shows that there were real conflicts for a while as to who knew what about this program.”

Holder has ordered an inspector general investigation on Fast and Furious and said the gun walking that occurred under the program “should never have happened.”

“This operation was flawed in concept, as well as in execution. And, unfortunately, we will feel its effects for years to come as guns that were lost during this operation continue to show up at crime scenes both here and in Mexico. This should never have happened. And it must never happen again,” Holder said last month.

The attorney general testified Thursday before the House Judiciary Committee about Fast and Furious and faced a barrage of criticism from Republicans.

Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) suggested Congress might impeach Holder if it does not get satisfactory answers about inaccurate statements and information the Department of Justice provided about Fast and Furious.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fandfhearing; fastandfurious; fbi; guncontrol; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; impeachment; joewalsh; obama; specialprosecutor

1 posted on 12/08/2011 1:03:40 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

But, but, but......Zer0’s been the gun salesman of the year for at least the last four yeears.


2 posted on 12/08/2011 1:05:19 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

The idiot probably finally realized it and wants to do something about it.


3 posted on 12/08/2011 1:09:26 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I’m sick of waiting, this is like watching a pot to boil over. If this was any other president, the media would have destroyed the administration months ago.


4 posted on 12/08/2011 1:10:11 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: jazusamo

“When you look back at Holder’s testimony a few weeks ago — in his opening statement he basically fell back on that again and said — ‘You know what? You may have problems with Fast and Furious, but this just goes to show we need to keep a tighter lid on arms and guns in America that may be leaving the country,’” he continued.******

Well now that makes perfect sense. You’ve got a Justice Dept lead gunrunning operation to Mexico therefore you need to curb 2nd Amend. rights. Brilliant.


5 posted on 12/08/2011 1:10:22 PM PST by bereanway
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To: jazusamo; Condor51

So, then, why isn’t Rep Joe. Walsh stating the “elephant in the room”: “ A political policy decision resulted inm the death of a citizen of the US who was also under the emplyment authority of the Chief Executive.”

That amounts to treason.


6 posted on 12/08/2011 1:16:33 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: jazusamo
was a plot from the administration to build support for gun control.

I've been sayin it all along. At the very same time they were allowing guns to go across the border to cartels, the President and Calderon were up at their respective podiums railing about how the lax gun control in the United States, and loopholes at gun shows were the source of many of the gun problems and violence in Mexico.

They were doing this on purpose. Wouldn't be surprised if Mexico knows a lot more than they are letting on.
7 posted on 12/08/2011 1:19:05 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: jazusamo

Until they come up with a compeling alternative story, this narrative fits as well as any. A little convoluted though.

Incompetance or corruption: you decide.

Who is going to make a Michael Moore style documentary? “Bowling for Skinheads” anyone?


8 posted on 12/08/2011 1:23:30 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: jazusamo

They are just now figuring out this was a Gun Control attempt by Obama?

Doesn’t anyone else remember Obama and the Mexi Pres complaining about “all the illegal guns found at mexican crime scenes” were being bought in the US and sent to Mexico? But when the true origin of the guns was determined, they really came from other central and south american countries, many stolen (sold?) from the military in those countries.

So oBama and his minions hatched the fast and furious to “prove” america was responsible for all the guns in mexico, so we need more control and stricter GUN CONTROL over US citizens.

This has Chicago style politics written all over it, and oBama absolutely knew about it from the start, he ordered it done.


9 posted on 12/08/2011 1:28:56 PM PST by wrench
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To: mmichaels1970
the President and Calderon were up at their respective podiums railing about how the lax gun control in the United States

Remember that like it was yesterday, pathetic.

10 posted on 12/08/2011 1:30:07 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

there is no doubt in my mind that Walsh is right and that; furthermore, had the truth not come out, Obama would have used this bogus gun data to justify sweeping anti-second amendment legislation WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE that the data was created by Eric Holder. It’s time to start dangling prison sentences in front of people so we can find out exactly who knew what and when they knew it.


11 posted on 12/08/2011 1:30:41 PM PST by RC one (Newt is the last anti-Romney firewall.)
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To: mmichaels1970

You type faster than I. And your post is spot on!


12 posted on 12/08/2011 1:30:46 PM PST by wrench
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To: wrench
This has Chicago style politics written all over it, and oBama absolutely knew about it from the start, he ordered it done.

Absolutely agree, he knew about it and probably helped plan it.

13 posted on 12/08/2011 1:34:05 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: mmichaels1970
The anti-gun aspects are just icing ~ the intent was obviously to provide guns to their friends in the drug cartels.

I see no reason to let them off the hook.

We must make arrangements to send them to Mexico for trial the second the Republican President takes office.

14 posted on 12/08/2011 1:37:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: wrench
You type faster than I. And your post is spot on!

GMTA
15 posted on 12/08/2011 1:38:12 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

Another day, another hearing, another frustrating question mark.


16 posted on 12/08/2011 2:03:17 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: jazusamo

Someone told the truth! This is OUTRAGEOUS! Shoot the truth teller. Where’s McLame when he need him? Lindsay..someone is telling the truth on your watch!/s/


17 posted on 12/08/2011 2:06:00 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: jazusamo

Support for gun control? More like gun banning. Typical of the Hill to misidentify the true objective.


18 posted on 12/08/2011 2:31:40 PM PST by DPMD
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To: jazusamo

“..we need to keep a tighter lid on arms and guns in America that may be leaving the country.”

Interesting statement. He said “we need..”

And, by “we,” would he mean BATFE? But wait, aren’t they the guys who walked the guns to the cartels?

Of course, he’s just referring to many more new laws. But, again, who will be enforcing those gun laws? And, again, BATFE?


19 posted on 12/08/2011 2:35:51 PM PST by DPMD
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To: wrench
and oBama absolutely knew about it from the start, he ordered it done.

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner.

Of course Obozo new, he planned it.

20 posted on 12/08/2011 2:54:40 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: jazusamo

It did one thing. It demonstrated to America that leftist aka progressive gun control laws. Can be used to selectively allow only the people that government wants to have guns. So is the background check law an infringement on a right?


21 posted on 12/09/2011 9:02:01 AM PST by DMG2FUN
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