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A Plot To Undermine The Right To Bear Arms
Investor's Business Daily ^ | December 8, 2011 | IBD staff

Posted on 12/08/2011 4:32:42 PM PST by raptor22

Scandal: Newly obtained documents show that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives discussed using its covert operation Fast and Furious to argue for new rules about gun sales. We told you so.

As we observed in June, the way Fast and Furious — the government's gun-running operation that resulted in the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry — was conducted made no sense unless its intent was to facilitate violence with U.S. weapons in the interests of pursuing the administration's gun-control agenda.

Now documents obtained by CBS News confirm that our first suspicions were correct.

As CBS' Sharyl Attkisson reports, emails show ATF officials discussed using the deliberate transfer of weapons to Mexican drug cartels to justify a new gun regulation known as "Demand Letter 3."

We say deliberate because congressional testimony by ATF agents demonstrates how the tracking of Fast and Furious weapons stopped at the border and that requests to interdict the weapons transfers and arrest the gun traffickers were denied by higher-ups.

Demand Letter 3 was so named because it was the third ATF attempt to have Southwest gun shops report all long-gun (rifle or shotgun) sales to the ATF — even those to law-abiding American citizens with all the proper registration and other forms.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
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1 posted on 12/08/2011 4:32:51 PM PST by raptor22
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To: raptor22
Newly obtained documents show that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives discussed using its covert operation Fast and Furious to argue for new rules about gun sales. We told you so.

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Any push to stifle gun sales is a push to destroy the foundation of our government as layed as a firm foundation to document via blood, sweat, and tears.

2 posted on 12/08/2011 4:40:58 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: raptor22

Get some rope.


3 posted on 12/08/2011 4:42:53 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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To: raptor22

Rush diagnosed this right at the start.


4 posted on 12/08/2011 4:47:37 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

2nd Amendment ping


5 posted on 12/08/2011 5:00:55 PM PST by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: raptor22

Conspire to deprive a citizen of Constutional guarantees under color of law = ? ? ?

Ask your lawyer friend (you do have one, we know it).

Hint: think a four digit number beginning with 19, as in “19—”.


6 posted on 12/08/2011 5:38:07 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: raptor22
Here is a petition to call for Eric Holder's prosecution.
Tea Party Petition to Prosecute Eric Holder

After signing the petition you will get an automatic way to send an e-mail to your Congressman and Senators. You can use their text or fill in your own.

7 posted on 12/08/2011 6:07:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: GladesGuru

Nazi Germany reborn???


8 posted on 12/08/2011 6:09:07 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: raptor22
...was conducted made no sense unless its intent was to facilitate violence with U.S. weapons in the interests of pursuing the administration's gun-control agenda.

This is only news, to those who have not been critically watching what our President has been trying to do.

The corruption and disregard for the US Constitution by this administration is beyond anything this country has ever seen.

9 posted on 12/08/2011 6:10:21 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Don Corleone

Rush and his staff read Free Republic.


10 posted on 12/08/2011 6:11:00 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
"Rush and his staff read Free Republic."
No I don't. ;-)
11 posted on 12/08/2011 7:26:19 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Tunehead54

Limbaugh was so late to this party it isn’t even funny. If his staff really did read about F&F on FR they were doing it one letter at a time and taking very, very frequent breaks.


12 posted on 12/08/2011 7:29:43 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: raptor22

An overt act on the part of the administration or officials of the government will be a clarion call for citizens to take action. (look up vigilante in the dictionary) The only redress that We the people can enforce is to hang those who attempt to deprive us of our rights.

To whoever might take this as a threat, (the administration), well..... bring it on, it has to start some where!


13 posted on 12/08/2011 7:49:03 PM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: Tunehead54

It would vastly improve your results if you did. ;^)


14 posted on 12/08/2011 8:09:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

“Nazi Germany reborn???” Not quite, but functionally the Regime IS following Hitler’s play book.


15 posted on 12/08/2011 8:12:33 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Lurker
When did F&F, which I recall first being called gunwalker, first become a known issue?

I recall reading about fed "requests" for multiple long gun sales info from gun dealers more than a year ago and Agent Terry was killed last year just about this time.

Searching Rush I found this from July of 2011 but it was not his first mention:

"RUSH: July 7th, 2011. So you remember Fast and Furious. This is where we arranged for thousands of guns, long guns, automatic, semiautomatic, AK-47s, machine guns, bazookas, whatever, to end up in the hands of drug lords, right out of gun stores, gun shops in Phoenix, just walked outta there right across the border into Mexico, into the hands of the drug cartel and the cartel was supposed to do with those guns what drug cartel people do, start using them, bam, bam, you're dead. They did. Hundreds of people died as a result of these guns being walked out of Phoenix gun shops and others along the border. And in this period of time a border agent got killed. So when attention was brought to bear on this, I said, "Well, it's clear what this is all about. Who do we have in the White House? We have a quasi-liberal socialist Marxist. What do they hate? They hate citizens having guns. They hate the Second Amendment."


Obviously this was not his mention of the subject. Maybe you're really mad how he pretty much ignored the Kenyan's lack of NBC status? ;-)
16 posted on 12/08/2011 8:42:02 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Tunehead54
When did F&F, which I recall first being called gunwalker, first become a known issue?

On FR? It was known around here long before June of this year if that's what you're asking. Known to Rush? Who knows when the Liberals Favorite Conservative got a clue.

17 posted on 12/08/2011 8:51:31 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: raptor22

This is nothing less than a conspiracy to deprive Americans of a fundamental Right. I believe that is a Felony. I also believe the actors in such a conspiracy can be sued.


18 posted on 12/08/2011 10:16:50 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: raptor22

This is nothing less than a conspiracy to deprive Americans of a fundamental Right. I believe that is a Felony. I also believe the actors in such a conspiracy can be sued.


19 posted on 12/08/2011 10:24:03 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: W. W. SMITH

Indeed it does have to start somewhere, FRiend Smith.

But where? And against whom?

A line of blue-helmeted Cuban troops marching down Main Street would make for an easy (and easy to justify) target.

But shooting (or hanging ... I’m a sucker for nostalgia) American civilians, even if they are corrupt officials, would be met with a savage response.

Besides, Obummer would just LOVE to see the “bitter clingers” launch an open, armed insurrection. Then he could declare a national emergency and God alone knows what horrors we would suffer.


20 posted on 12/09/2011 12:44:32 PM PST by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. - Robert Heinlein)
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To: raptor22; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
ATF officials discussed using the deliberate transfer of weapons to Mexican drug cartels to justify a new gun regulation known as "Demand Letter 3." ... so named because it was the third ATF attempt to have Southwest gun shops report all long-gun (rifle or shotgun) sales to the ATF — even those to law-abiding American citizens with all the proper registration and other forms.



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21 posted on 12/09/2011 5:14:30 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: raptor22

So when will we start hearing the word “treason” and calls for the death penalty from those pussies in Congress? It IS actually in the law.


22 posted on 12/09/2011 5:20:07 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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