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Time: Why Rick Perry’s New Ads Are Wrong on Religion–And Obama
Time ^ | December 9, 2011 | Amy Sullivan

Posted on 12/09/2011 3:33:49 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

.....“I’m not ashamed to talk about my faith,” he says in the first spot. “Some liberals say that faith is a sign of weakness. Well, they’re wrong.” In the second ad, titled “Strong,” Perry bravely comes out as a follower of Christ. “I’m not ashamed to admit that I’m a Christian,” he says, before vowing that “as President, I’ll end Obama’s war on religion.”

......But most flagrant is Perry’s reference to “Obama’s war on religion” without evidence or explanation. He leaves the strong impression that it is Obama’s administration–instead of Supreme Court decisions from the 1960s–that took school-sanctioned prayer and Bible-reading out of public schools. It is telling that Perry can assume his intended audience in Iowa living rooms will need no elaboration or convincing that there is indeed a war on religion.

Social conservatives have had a hard time providing substance for that charge, however, because many of their most dire predictions about a Democratic presidency simply haven’t come true. Obama hasn’t taken away their guns, he hasn’t started a race war, and–despite mailings distributed by the RNC in the 2004 campaign–godless “liberals” have not banned the Bible....

..It would easy to dismiss Perry’s message as just a typical appeal to social conservatives or the desperate strategy of a candidate who may have slipped out of contention. But this is new. The casualness with which Perry tosses off the charge about “Obama’s war on religion” is at odds with how corrosive the accusation really is. It encourages citizens to turn against one another in a way that conservatives would denounce as class warfare if the subject were economics. That leaves conservatives with a choice: they can denounce Perry’s ads, or explain why they tolerate such divisiveness when the subject is people’s faith.

(Excerpt) Read more at swampland.time.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: amnesty; conservatism; faith; family; obama4koran; openborders; pandering; perry2012; perry4america; perryastroturfing; rino
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To: sodpoodle

I heard Rick Perry on Fox yesterday defending his new ads. I missed lot of it, but if I caught the drift correctly, (and maybe someone on this thread can expound on it,) he was talking about Evangelicals who seem to be willing to forget their values to support either gingrich or romney. He said, “Which Commandment DON’T you believe in?”
And I thought hear, hear.
How much of your soul are you willing to forfeit to indulge and overlook adultery, sexual perversion, abortion, lying, et al? Not me, man. I WILL NOT GO THERE!


21 posted on 12/09/2011 5:18:32 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Did you see Rick Perry’s interview on Fox yesterday with Martha McCallum?


22 posted on 12/09/2011 5:21:50 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Somebody criticized Time’s buttboy. That someone must pay!


23 posted on 12/09/2011 5:27:48 AM PST by GnL
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To: hocndoc
And "death panels."

Gov. Rick Perry - “FED UP!”

……Now my friend Sarah Palin took a lot of heat for calling this as she saw it—the empowerment of death panels. But is she wrong? Sure, there isn’t a section titled “death panels” in the law, but that’s not how the statist works. The scheme is built around the central premise that federal bureaucrats get to decide a lot of things for you, and they are motivated by controlling costs, redistribution and “fairness.” As one expert, Dr. Alan Garber of Stanford University said, “Being able to say no is the heart of the issue.” We give those bureaucrats the power, and they want to say no in order to make the system work.

Matters of life and death, indeed. I honestly have no words to describe how frightening this whole scheme is and how badly it undermines freedom. Indeed, as Daniel Hannan, a British member of Parliament who knows socialized medicine firsthand, said, “The idea that this, of all countries, could put into the power of a state bureaucracy decisions over what kind of medical treatment you get, literally whether you can live or die, is deeply un-American.

Most concerning is Obama’s appointment of Dr. Donald Berwick to head up the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). The President was savvy enough to appoint this Massachusetts doctor in a recess appointment rather than the typical Senate confirmation process, knowing that a Senate hearing would likely spark public outrage and possibly derail Berwick’s confirmation. Berwick is an outspoken fan both of health care rationing and the British health care system, which is a model of socialized medicine. Berwick once said, “The decision is not weather or not we will ration care—the decidison is whether we will ration with our eyes open.” He has also opined that the government “can make a sensible social decision” and deny access to certain medical care because it is “so expensive that our taxpayers have better use for those funds.” Shouldn’t your doctor make that decision? Remember those “death panels?”……. Source

24 posted on 12/09/2011 5:28:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I guess Perry assumes that people are not so stupid that they do not realize that Obama is continuing the war on faith.


25 posted on 12/09/2011 5:29:49 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: MestaMachine

Preach it, sister. Amen to that.


26 posted on 12/09/2011 5:29:57 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: MestaMachine
Did you see Rick Perry’s interview on Fox yesterday with Martha McCallum?

No I missed it.

I just heard Gov. Perry is going to be on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace....

27 posted on 12/09/2011 5:30:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ravenwolf
I guess Perry assumes that people are not so stupid that they do not realize that Obama is continuing the war on faith.

Perry knows the American people want control over their lives returned to them and their states.

28 posted on 12/09/2011 5:32:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This article might actually impact the vote among bored people waiting in dentist offices. /s

Perry is doing great with this issue.

29 posted on 12/09/2011 5:35:59 AM PST by Tribune7 (Perry or Santorum)
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To: normy
And we need to take the education of our children back.

Gov. Perry sued for Texas' money (without Washington telling us how to spend it) -- And won! Promise Kept.

30 posted on 12/09/2011 5:39:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Tribune7
Obama hasn’t taken away their guns, he hasn’t started a race war, and–despite mailings distributed by the RNC in the 2004 campaign–godless “liberals” have not banned the Bible....

And then the author goes on to denounce Perry and people who believe as being devise and playing the class warfare card.

Such tactics are used hourly by Obama and the MSM stays silent (or encourages it).

31 posted on 12/09/2011 5:47:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

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32 posted on 12/09/2011 5:49:37 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m not sure I would have caught that ... thanx C’sW


33 posted on 12/09/2011 5:50:21 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf; shield; All

The Shadow Party Strikes Again: ‘Texans For Public Justice’ is Really Part of the Texas Democrats’ Smear - Bryan Preston - September 21, 2011 —

Texans for Public Justice’s true nature is relevant because they’ve launched an ethics broadside against Texas Gov. Rick Perry on the eve of the next presidential debate, and that attack is getting picked up as if it’s not coming from a partisan hothouse. Despite their attempts to masquerade as non-partisan watchdogs, Texans for Public Justice are Democrat partisans funded by a variety of far left outfits. PJ alum Jennifer Rubin cites TPJ uncritically in a post at her Washington Post blog today, but doesn’t go into who or what is behind the group. So, allow me.

I touched on Texans for Public Justice last year in my expose of how the Texas Democrats hope to use false front groups like TPJ to tear down the state’s Republican leadership, and regain the power that the voters have repeatedly chosen not to give them over the last two decades.

Because of his position as the Texas Democratic Party’s shadow chairman, [Lone Star Project head Matt] Angle exerts a great deal of influence over several left-wing groups across Texas, some of which pass themselves off as non-partisan. Among those is Texans for Public Justice, a group that claims to be interested in “tracking the influence of money and corporate power in Texas politics.” That interest is decidedly one-way: TPJ never takes on Democrat operatives like Angle, and in media hit after media hit, is always on his side. This makes sense when you take a look at who funds TPJ: Open Society Institute (George Soros, whose fortune also directly funds candidates even at the local level in Texas) and the Tides Foundation (Teresa Heinz-Kerry, among many others). Scratch the surface of most “nonpartisan watchdogs” in your state and you’ll probably find the same money sources, and perhaps a similar network of activists and groups. They are Soros’ “Shadow Party.” TPJ is a left-wing front masquerading as a nonpartisan watchdog.Somehow the mainstream media in Texas consistently misses the fact that TPJ never takes on Democrats, about anything, ever. Ditto for “non-partisan” groups like the Texas Freedom Network (founded and run by Cecilia Richards, daughter of the late acerbic Democratic Gov. Ann Richards) and the Texas Values in Action Coalition (TEXVAC), both of which have been very active in the 2009-2010 election cycle dredging up and amplifying attacks on Republicans, which then get major interest from the mainstream media.

The Angle operation hunts as a pack. It starts when Angle and his operatives manufacture an ethical charge against a vulnerable Republican. The allied groups, Texans for Public Justice, TEXVAC, and Back to Basics PAC, generate a flurry of press releases decrying the evil Republican. Mainstream media dutifully reports and amplifies the charge, quoting the spokesmen with the furrowed brows at the Angle-allied groups. A Democratic candidate, funded and controlled by an Angle ally, Houston multimillionaire trial lawyer Steve Mostyn, waits in the wings while the Republican crashes and burns.

Two seconds at their site gives away the fact that TPJ are sharply partisan, and mostly an anti-Perry hate group. Texas is thick with these groups, which we’ll hear more and more from as long as Perry is in the campaign. They’re funded by everyone from George Soros (TPJ gets money from his Open Society group) to trial lawyers who oppose tort reform, like Houston trial lawyer Steve Mostyn. They’ll use their Texas location to attack Perry and the Texas record, and most journalists and bloggers from outside the state will probably assume that, since they’re based in Texas, they must know what they’re talking about. The question that needs to be asked, though, is what are these groups really up to.

They’re not about good governance. They’re not non-partisan. They exist to bring about liberal electoral success. Nothing more, and nothing less. Everything they say and do should be seen as partisan, because that’s what it is.

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/09/21/the-shadow-party-strikes-again-texans-for-public-justice-is-really-part-of-the-texas-democrats-smear-machine/


34 posted on 12/09/2011 5:58:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry knows the American people want control over their lives returned to them and their states.


Right, Perry is concerned more about what the people he serves
wants rather than the organizations who claim to be speaking for every one, a big difference.


35 posted on 12/09/2011 6:02:27 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry knows the American people want control over their lives returned to them and their states.


Right, Perry is concerned more about what the people he serves
wants rather than the organizations who claim to be speaking for every one, a big difference.


36 posted on 12/09/2011 6:02:40 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: MestaMachine
I will go there if it means getting rid of this abarition!
37 posted on 12/09/2011 6:04:34 AM PST by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: sodpoodle
Love your post. I can picture Obama wearing a cowboy hat, riding a horse and roping a steer, yelling, "Allah Akbar:!!!!

Go, Perry.

38 posted on 12/09/2011 6:09:12 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ravenwolf

Actually, if he wanted to be more precise and hit the nail squarely on the head,

0bama isn’t conducting a war on “religion” or on “faith”.
He is simply carrying out the leftists’ war on _Biblical_ Christianity.

It’s always been about “has God really said”. (Gen 3)


39 posted on 12/09/2011 6:21:07 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rick has definitely hit a nerve in liberal land.

This Amy Sullivan reminds of the aliens in “Mars Attacks” whose heads explode when they hear Slim Whitman sing Indian Lovesong! HA!


40 posted on 12/09/2011 8:27:19 AM PST by smoothsailing
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