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Time: Why Rick Perry’s New Ads Are Wrong on Religion–And Obama
Time ^ | December 9, 2011 | Amy Sullivan

Posted on 12/09/2011 3:33:49 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

.....“I’m not ashamed to talk about my faith,” he says in the first spot. “Some liberals say that faith is a sign of weakness. Well, they’re wrong.” In the second ad, titled “Strong,” Perry bravely comes out as a follower of Christ. “I’m not ashamed to admit that I’m a Christian,” he says, before vowing that “as President, I’ll end Obama’s war on religion.”

......But most flagrant is Perry’s reference to “Obama’s war on religion” without evidence or explanation. He leaves the strong impression that it is Obama’s administration–instead of Supreme Court decisions from the 1960s–that took school-sanctioned prayer and Bible-reading out of public schools. It is telling that Perry can assume his intended audience in Iowa living rooms will need no elaboration or convincing that there is indeed a war on religion.

Social conservatives have had a hard time providing substance for that charge, however, because many of their most dire predictions about a Democratic presidency simply haven’t come true. Obama hasn’t taken away their guns, he hasn’t started a race war, and–despite mailings distributed by the RNC in the 2004 campaign–godless “liberals” have not banned the Bible....

..It would easy to dismiss Perry’s message as just a typical appeal to social conservatives or the desperate strategy of a candidate who may have slipped out of contention. But this is new. The casualness with which Perry tosses off the charge about “Obama’s war on religion” is at odds with how corrosive the accusation really is. It encourages citizens to turn against one another in a way that conservatives would denounce as class warfare if the subject were economics. That leaves conservatives with a choice: they can denounce Perry’s ads, or explain why they tolerate such divisiveness when the subject is people’s faith.

(Excerpt) Read more at swampland.time.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: amnesty; conservatism; faith; family; obama4koran; openborders; pandering; perry2012; perry4america; perryastroturfing; rino
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God Damn America

New docs show Fast and Furious was going to be used to justify gun control measures ….”"Bill - can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same (licensed gun dealer) and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales. Thanks."….

Obama’s “identity groups” war:Alabama Slammed --- Obama DOJ uses illegal immigration to smear border states.

Bitter Americans cling to their guns and their bibles audio: Barack Obama's small town guns and religion comments

1 posted on 12/09/2011 3:33:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield

Gov. Perry’s latest ads have really hit Obama and the LIBERAL camp where they live.


2 posted on 12/09/2011 3:34:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama makes me want to puke.


3 posted on 12/09/2011 3:40:21 AM PST by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama makes me want to puke.


4 posted on 12/09/2011 3:40:35 AM PST by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good for Perry... everybody knows Obama is much more sympathetic to Islam than to Christianity.. and that’s sugar coating the issue..


5 posted on 12/09/2011 3:51:28 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

Obama is sympathetic to every anti-American, pro Marxist meme in his push to weaken the foundation of American strength and to denounce the exceptionalism of our Republic.


6 posted on 12/09/2011 3:56:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DooDahhhh; All
Obama makes me want to puke.

With his base shrinking he is living in his bunker with radicals and anarchists.

Democrats Unveil the Weapon of the Future -- the liberal superstructure --

...."you have an alternate system made up of outside organizations not subject to governmental oversight, a system populated with self-selected fanatics and true believers, a system poised and ready to march, you can do what was done in Wisconsin. You can turn the superstructure loose to threaten the public peace, smash things up, abuse the electoral process, create a media spectacle, and pressure the state to do things your way. You can use nonpolitical organizations (in the electoral sense) to get a political result.

All the groups involved in the Wisconsin campaign were superstructure groups. The unions, the very core organizations of the superstructure, without which it's no more than a pack of vegetarians and aging hippies. The media, which serves as its propaganda arm. And the judiciary, which is broadly infiltrated by leftist partisans whose allegiance has been awarded to something other than the law.".....

7 posted on 12/09/2011 4:01:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hey Amy ... your boy king hates Christ, Christianity, Judaism and anything that doesn't lift up muslims.

Look around, you drip head ... your muslim friends want to rape and stone you.

8 posted on 12/09/2011 4:06:11 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Time? was that a magazine?


9 posted on 12/09/2011 4:06:32 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: ronnie raygun
Time? was that a magazine?

It was once, but it died a long time ago.

10 posted on 12/09/2011 4:16:16 AM PST by McGavin999 ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Obama hasn’t taken away their guns, he hasn’t started a race war, and–despite mailings distributed by the RNC in the 2004 campaign–godless “liberals” have not banned the Bible....”

NOT for lack of trying. It’s only because Americans, for the most part, are decent, G-d-fearing/believing people and we have rejected the bait.


11 posted on 12/09/2011 4:52:56 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The groans and travails for the manifestation of the sons of God. It's time for His sons to start acting like it especially in America.

If anyone wonders why this country is in the condition it's in look no further than your own mirror.

As the "salt of the earth" we, and by we I mean men, have lost our savor. Time to get it back.

12 posted on 12/09/2011 4:55:14 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: knarf
Nov. 13, 2011: “Pelosi fires back at ‘60 Minutes’ report on ‘soft corruption’”

“Pelosi and her husband participated in an initial public offering of Visa in 2008, according to CBS. They bought 5,000 shares at the initial price of $44; two days later, shares were trading at $64, CBS said.”.......... Source

Pelosi Bashes Catholics: 'They Have This Conscience Thing'... “After having some of her behind the scenes shenanigans exposed, Nancy Pelosi has turned to her friends in the MSM to help her with damage control. The effect is something akin to watching what scrambles out after you overturn a large rock.

Pelosi sought to defend herself from allegations that she and her husband made millions from insider trading in what the Washington Post calls a wide ranging interview……..

……Pelosi added a startling, if inadvertent, admission. Addressing the effects such [ObamaCare] legislation would have on Catholic health care providers, Pelosi said:

"I'm a devout Catholic and I honor my faith and love it . . . but they have this conscience thing."…….

13 posted on 12/09/2011 4:57:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Rick Perry on Congressional Insider Trading [:24]


14 posted on 12/09/2011 4:57:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Defending Obama as a Christian is like defending Hitler as
a Christian. The tree is known by its fruit—as it is written.
As for Sullivan in this editorial —and Time — I am reminded
that the world cannot understand the things of the spirit.
Sadly I can recall a time when our politicians were more like
Rick Perry and unashamed of their faith. And their faith could ,more often than not ,be seen as reflecting the Bible record. But the Court erected a divisive and destructive WALL of separation to divide the nation that only in the last decade or two has produced a Government hostile toward Christianity.The same Congress that produced the
Constitutional Convention —first adopted the Northwest Ordinance.The first Congress under our Constitution passed that fundamental law a second time. Religion(as defined then Christianity) Morality ( based upon our Christian faith) and Knowledge( of mans duty first to obey God) was the first national law regarding education and it suggested Religion
and Morality would be part of our national education. How sad we have allowed our Government turn against everything the Founders believed in as necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind. (IMO the Northwest Ordinance was a
directly influenced by a popular sermon preached first in Conn. May.10,1787 Elizur Goodrich ) In closing Isn’t Time run by Reprobates?


15 posted on 12/09/2011 4:58:13 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: MestaMachine

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
VAN ORDEN v. PERRY, in his official capacity as GOVERNOR OF TEXAS and CHAIRMAN, STATE PRESERVATION BOARD, et al.
CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT
No. 03—1500.Argued March 2, 2005–Decided June 27, 2005

Among the 21 historical markers and 17 monuments surrounding the Texas State Capitol is a 6-foot-high monolith inscribed with the Ten Commandments. The legislative record illustrates that, after accepting the monument from the Fraternal Order of Eagles–a national social, civic, and patriotic organization–the State selected a site for it based on the recommendation of the state organization that maintains the capitol grounds. Petitioner, an Austin resident who encounters the monument during his frequent visits to those grounds, brought this 42 U.S.C. § 1983 suit seeking a declaration that the monument’s placement violates the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause and an injunction requiring its removal. Holding that the monument did not contravene the Clause, the District Court found that the State had a valid secular purpose in recognizing and commending the Eagles for their efforts to reduce juvenile delinquency, and that a reasonable observer, mindful of history, purpose, and context, would not conclude that this passive monument conveyed the message that the State endorsed religion. The Fifth Circuit affirmed.

Held: The judgment is affirmed.

351 F.3d 173, affirmed.

The Chief Justice, joined by Justice Scalia, Justice Kennedy, and Justice Thomas, concluded that the Establishment Clause allows the display of a monument inscribed with the Ten Commandments on the Texas State Capitol grounds. Reconciling the strong role played by religion and religious traditions throughout our Nation’s history, see School Dist. of Abington Township v. Schempp, 374 U.S. 203, 212—213, with the principle that governmental intervention in religious matters can itself endanger religious freedom requires that the Court neither abdicate its responsibility to maintain a division between church and state nor evince a hostility to religion, e.g., Zorach v. Clauson, 343 U.S. 306, 313—314. While the Court has sometimes pointed to Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602, for the governing test, Lemon is not useful in dealing with the sort of passive monument that Texas has erected on its capitol grounds. Instead, the analysis should be driven by both the monument’s nature and the Nation’s history. From at least 1789, there has been an unbroken history of official acknowledgment by all three branches of government of religion’s role in American life. Lynch v. Donnelly, 465 U.S. 668, 674. Texas’ display of the Commandments on government property is typical of such acknowledgments. Representations of the Commandments appear throughout this Court and its grounds, as well as the Nation’s Capital. Moreover, the Court’s opinions, like its building, have recognized the role the Decalogue plays in America’s heritage. See, e.g., McGowan v. Maryland, 366 U.S. 420, 442, 462. While the Commandments are religious, they have an undeniable historical meaning. Simply having religious content or promoting a message consistent with a religious doctrine does not run afoul of the Establishment Clause. See, e.g., Lynch v. Donnelly, supra, at 680, 687. There are, of course, limits to the government’s display of religious messages or symbols. For example, this Court held unconstitutional a Kentucky statute requiring the posting of the Ten Commandments in every public schoolroom. Stone v. Graham, 449 U.S. 39, 41—42. However, neither Stone itself nor subsequent opinions have indicated that Stone’s holding would extend beyond the context of public schools to a legislative chamber, see Marsh v. Chambers, 463 U.S. 783, or to capitol grounds. Texas’ placement of the Commandments monument on its capitol grounds is a far more passive use of those texts than was the case in Stone, where the text confronted elementary school students every day. Indeed, petitioner here apparently walked by the monument for years before bringing this suit. Schempp, supra, and Lee v. Weisman, 505 U.S. 577, distinguished. Texas has treated her capitol grounds monuments as representing several strands in the State’s political and legal history. The inclusion of the Commandments monument in this group has a dual significance, partaking of both religion and government, that cannot be said to violate the Establishment Clause. Pp. 3—12.

Justice Breyer concluded that this is a difficult borderline case where none of the Court’s various tests for evaluating Establishment Clause questions can substitute for the exercise of legal judgment. See, e.g., School Dist. of Abington Township v. Schempp, 374 U.S. 203, 305 (Goldberg, J., concurring). That judgment is not a personal judgment. Rather, as in all constitutional cases, it must reflect and remain faithful to the underlying purposes of the First Amendment’s Religion Clauses–to assure the fullest possible scope of religious liberty and tolerance for all, to avoid the religious divisiveness that promotes social conflict, and to maintain the separation of church and state. No exact formula can dictate a resolution to fact-intensive cases such as this. Despite the Commandments’ religious message, an inquiry into the context in which the text of the Commandments is used demonstrates that the Commandments also convey a secular moral message about proper standards of social conduct and a message about the historic relation between those standards and the law. The circumstances surrounding the monument’s placement on the capitol grounds and its physical setting provide a strong, but not conclusive, indication that the Commandments’ text as used on this monument conveys a predominantly secular message. The determinative factor here, however, is that 40 years passed in which the monument’s presence, legally speaking, went unchallenged (until the single legal objection raised by petitioner). Those 40 years suggest more strongly than can any set of formulaic tests that few individuals, whatever their belief systems, are likely to have understood the monument as amounting, in any significantly detrimental way, to a government effort to establish religion. See ibid. The public visiting the capitol grounds is more likely to have considered the religious aspect of the tablets’ message as part of what is a broader moral and historical message reflective of a cultural heritage. For these reasons, the Texas display falls on the permissible side of the constitutional line. Pp. 1—8.

Rehnquist, C. J., announced the judgment of the Court and delivered an opinion, in which Scalia, Kennedy, and Thomas, JJ., joined. Scalia, J., and Thomas, J., filed concurring opinions. Breyer, J., filed an opinion concurring in the judgment. Stevens, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which Ginsburg, J., joined. O’Connor, J., filed a dissenting opinion. Souter, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which Stevens and Ginsburg, JJ., joined.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/03-1500.ZS.html


16 posted on 12/09/2011 5:00:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And don’t forget the blatant writing of requirements that rule out prolife groups - even for human trafficking
http://freedom2care.blogspot.com/2011/12/abortion-ideology-trumps-aid-for.html


17 posted on 12/09/2011 5:03:52 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I can’t wait for the Obama campaign ad where he’s riding a horse, wearing a cowboy hat and roping a steer...yelling Allah Akbar!!!

I still respect and admire Rick Perry - HE is an American.


18 posted on 12/09/2011 5:04:09 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich - flying solo - without congressional baggage!!!)
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To: DooDahhhh

“Obama makes me want to puke.”

Me, too. Me, too.


19 posted on 12/09/2011 5:06:10 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I give a s_it what TIME thinks how? =.=


20 posted on 12/09/2011 5:07:04 AM PST by cranked
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To: sodpoodle

I heard Rick Perry on Fox yesterday defending his new ads. I missed lot of it, but if I caught the drift correctly, (and maybe someone on this thread can expound on it,) he was talking about Evangelicals who seem to be willing to forget their values to support either gingrich or romney. He said, “Which Commandment DON’T you believe in?”
And I thought hear, hear.
How much of your soul are you willing to forfeit to indulge and overlook adultery, sexual perversion, abortion, lying, et al? Not me, man. I WILL NOT GO THERE!


21 posted on 12/09/2011 5:18:32 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Did you see Rick Perry’s interview on Fox yesterday with Martha McCallum?


22 posted on 12/09/2011 5:21:50 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Somebody criticized Time’s buttboy. That someone must pay!


23 posted on 12/09/2011 5:27:48 AM PST by GnL
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To: hocndoc
And "death panels."

Gov. Rick Perry - “FED UP!”

……Now my friend Sarah Palin took a lot of heat for calling this as she saw it—the empowerment of death panels. But is she wrong? Sure, there isn’t a section titled “death panels” in the law, but that’s not how the statist works. The scheme is built around the central premise that federal bureaucrats get to decide a lot of things for you, and they are motivated by controlling costs, redistribution and “fairness.” As one expert, Dr. Alan Garber of Stanford University said, “Being able to say no is the heart of the issue.” We give those bureaucrats the power, and they want to say no in order to make the system work.

Matters of life and death, indeed. I honestly have no words to describe how frightening this whole scheme is and how badly it undermines freedom. Indeed, as Daniel Hannan, a British member of Parliament who knows socialized medicine firsthand, said, “The idea that this, of all countries, could put into the power of a state bureaucracy decisions over what kind of medical treatment you get, literally whether you can live or die, is deeply un-American.

Most concerning is Obama’s appointment of Dr. Donald Berwick to head up the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). The President was savvy enough to appoint this Massachusetts doctor in a recess appointment rather than the typical Senate confirmation process, knowing that a Senate hearing would likely spark public outrage and possibly derail Berwick’s confirmation. Berwick is an outspoken fan both of health care rationing and the British health care system, which is a model of socialized medicine. Berwick once said, “The decision is not weather or not we will ration care—the decidison is whether we will ration with our eyes open.” He has also opined that the government “can make a sensible social decision” and deny access to certain medical care because it is “so expensive that our taxpayers have better use for those funds.” Shouldn’t your doctor make that decision? Remember those “death panels?”……. Source

24 posted on 12/09/2011 5:28:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I guess Perry assumes that people are not so stupid that they do not realize that Obama is continuing the war on faith.


25 posted on 12/09/2011 5:29:49 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: MestaMachine

Preach it, sister. Amen to that.


26 posted on 12/09/2011 5:29:57 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: MestaMachine
Did you see Rick Perry’s interview on Fox yesterday with Martha McCallum?

No I missed it.

I just heard Gov. Perry is going to be on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace....

27 posted on 12/09/2011 5:30:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ravenwolf
I guess Perry assumes that people are not so stupid that they do not realize that Obama is continuing the war on faith.

Perry knows the American people want control over their lives returned to them and their states.

28 posted on 12/09/2011 5:32:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This article might actually impact the vote among bored people waiting in dentist offices. /s

Perry is doing great with this issue.

29 posted on 12/09/2011 5:35:59 AM PST by Tribune7 (Perry or Santorum)
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To: normy
And we need to take the education of our children back.

Gov. Perry sued for Texas' money (without Washington telling us how to spend it) -- And won! Promise Kept.

30 posted on 12/09/2011 5:39:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Tribune7
Obama hasn’t taken away their guns, he hasn’t started a race war, and–despite mailings distributed by the RNC in the 2004 campaign–godless “liberals” have not banned the Bible....

And then the author goes on to denounce Perry and people who believe as being devise and playing the class warfare card.

Such tactics are used hourly by Obama and the MSM stays silent (or encourages it).

31 posted on 12/09/2011 5:47:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

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32 posted on 12/09/2011 5:49:37 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m not sure I would have caught that ... thanx C’sW


33 posted on 12/09/2011 5:50:21 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf; shield; All

The Shadow Party Strikes Again: ‘Texans For Public Justice’ is Really Part of the Texas Democrats’ Smear - Bryan Preston - September 21, 2011 —

Texans for Public Justice’s true nature is relevant because they’ve launched an ethics broadside against Texas Gov. Rick Perry on the eve of the next presidential debate, and that attack is getting picked up as if it’s not coming from a partisan hothouse. Despite their attempts to masquerade as non-partisan watchdogs, Texans for Public Justice are Democrat partisans funded by a variety of far left outfits. PJ alum Jennifer Rubin cites TPJ uncritically in a post at her Washington Post blog today, but doesn’t go into who or what is behind the group. So, allow me.

I touched on Texans for Public Justice last year in my expose of how the Texas Democrats hope to use false front groups like TPJ to tear down the state’s Republican leadership, and regain the power that the voters have repeatedly chosen not to give them over the last two decades.

Because of his position as the Texas Democratic Party’s shadow chairman, [Lone Star Project head Matt] Angle exerts a great deal of influence over several left-wing groups across Texas, some of which pass themselves off as non-partisan. Among those is Texans for Public Justice, a group that claims to be interested in “tracking the influence of money and corporate power in Texas politics.” That interest is decidedly one-way: TPJ never takes on Democrat operatives like Angle, and in media hit after media hit, is always on his side. This makes sense when you take a look at who funds TPJ: Open Society Institute (George Soros, whose fortune also directly funds candidates even at the local level in Texas) and the Tides Foundation (Teresa Heinz-Kerry, among many others). Scratch the surface of most “nonpartisan watchdogs” in your state and you’ll probably find the same money sources, and perhaps a similar network of activists and groups. They are Soros’ “Shadow Party.” TPJ is a left-wing front masquerading as a nonpartisan watchdog.Somehow the mainstream media in Texas consistently misses the fact that TPJ never takes on Democrats, about anything, ever. Ditto for “non-partisan” groups like the Texas Freedom Network (founded and run by Cecilia Richards, daughter of the late acerbic Democratic Gov. Ann Richards) and the Texas Values in Action Coalition (TEXVAC), both of which have been very active in the 2009-2010 election cycle dredging up and amplifying attacks on Republicans, which then get major interest from the mainstream media.

The Angle operation hunts as a pack. It starts when Angle and his operatives manufacture an ethical charge against a vulnerable Republican. The allied groups, Texans for Public Justice, TEXVAC, and Back to Basics PAC, generate a flurry of press releases decrying the evil Republican. Mainstream media dutifully reports and amplifies the charge, quoting the spokesmen with the furrowed brows at the Angle-allied groups. A Democratic candidate, funded and controlled by an Angle ally, Houston multimillionaire trial lawyer Steve Mostyn, waits in the wings while the Republican crashes and burns.

Two seconds at their site gives away the fact that TPJ are sharply partisan, and mostly an anti-Perry hate group. Texas is thick with these groups, which we’ll hear more and more from as long as Perry is in the campaign. They’re funded by everyone from George Soros (TPJ gets money from his Open Society group) to trial lawyers who oppose tort reform, like Houston trial lawyer Steve Mostyn. They’ll use their Texas location to attack Perry and the Texas record, and most journalists and bloggers from outside the state will probably assume that, since they’re based in Texas, they must know what they’re talking about. The question that needs to be asked, though, is what are these groups really up to.

They’re not about good governance. They’re not non-partisan. They exist to bring about liberal electoral success. Nothing more, and nothing less. Everything they say and do should be seen as partisan, because that’s what it is.

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/09/21/the-shadow-party-strikes-again-texans-for-public-justice-is-really-part-of-the-texas-democrats-smear-machine/


34 posted on 12/09/2011 5:58:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry knows the American people want control over their lives returned to them and their states.


Right, Perry is concerned more about what the people he serves
wants rather than the organizations who claim to be speaking for every one, a big difference.


35 posted on 12/09/2011 6:02:27 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry knows the American people want control over their lives returned to them and their states.


Right, Perry is concerned more about what the people he serves
wants rather than the organizations who claim to be speaking for every one, a big difference.


36 posted on 12/09/2011 6:02:40 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: MestaMachine
I will go there if it means getting rid of this abarition!
37 posted on 12/09/2011 6:04:34 AM PST by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: sodpoodle
Love your post. I can picture Obama wearing a cowboy hat, riding a horse and roping a steer, yelling, "Allah Akbar:!!!!

Go, Perry.

38 posted on 12/09/2011 6:09:12 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ravenwolf

Actually, if he wanted to be more precise and hit the nail squarely on the head,

0bama isn’t conducting a war on “religion” or on “faith”.
He is simply carrying out the leftists’ war on _Biblical_ Christianity.

It’s always been about “has God really said”. (Gen 3)


39 posted on 12/09/2011 6:21:07 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rick has definitely hit a nerve in liberal land.

This Amy Sullivan reminds of the aliens in “Mars Attacks” whose heads explode when they hear Slim Whitman sing Indian Lovesong! HA!


40 posted on 12/09/2011 8:27:19 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Last night, O’Reilly said that Perry is using his Christianity to get votes. Bill just doesn’t get it (again).


41 posted on 12/09/2011 8:52:31 AM PST by CatherineofAragon
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry Responds to Controversy Over Religion Ad
42 posted on 12/09/2011 10:45:41 AM PST by Quicksilver (nominate Rick Perry - defeat Obama - overhaul Washington!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

When Bill stops claiming the war against the war on Christmas as his own, for ratings, I actually might listen...

(Actually, he lost me long ago...)


43 posted on 12/09/2011 11:35:18 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s true. The Left hates Christians and so do Muslims. Leftists and Muslims have a long history and current reality of oppressing, murdering and torturing Christians. In the White House, we have both.


44 posted on 12/09/2011 1:31:59 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Quicksilver

Thank you for the link!


45 posted on 12/09/2011 2:07:43 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Time. Didn’t that used to be a magazine?


46 posted on 12/09/2011 3:59:04 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I told my doctor yesterday that we are now ‘units’ in the eyes of the government.

He said, that sounds like science fiction.

Obama is completely evil. This whole fast and furious thing should cause his impeachment. There’s nothing he’d like better than to take our guns away and take over the country.

Am I paranoid? Or is somebody after me?


47 posted on 12/09/2011 4:03:52 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: CatherineofAragon

If you can offend both Time and Bill O’Reilly, you’re doin’ good.


48 posted on 12/09/2011 4:05:57 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Quicksilver

Thanks for the video link.


49 posted on 12/09/2011 4:25:30 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Quicksilver

Thanks for the video link.


50 posted on 12/09/2011 4:25:48 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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