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Ron Paul: 9/11 prompted "glee" in Bush administration
CBS News ^ | 12/09/2011 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 12/09/2011 10:14:48 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said Thursday evening that Bush administration officials were gleeful after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks because it gave them a pretext to invade Iraq.

"Just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately before there was any assessment there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq," the Texas Republican told a group of mostly young backers in Iowa. He went on to suggest officials are now setting the stage for an invasion of Iran.

Paul, who was tied for second in this week's CBS News/New York Times poll of likely Iowa caucus-goers, is making a strong push in the Hawkeye state in hopes of scoring an upset victory in the first-in-the-nation January 3 caucuses. Paul volunteers have been working to convince Paul's mostly young supporters - many of whom will be on holiday break from college when the caucuses take place - to be sure to make it to their caucus site.

Paul's libertarian views - on the foreign policy front, he wants to dramatically reduce the U.S. military presence abroad and end all foreign aid - put him at odds with many Republican voters. A poll from Gallup this week found that 62 percent of Republican and Republican-leaning independent voters see Paul as an unacceptable nominee.

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To: Mike Darancette

“If he thinks the GOP is evil why is he wasting money in IA?”

Establishing electability which is the achilles heel for all third party candidates. If he wins or comes in a strong second, he’s established his creds. He’ll lose in NH and will probably be out of the race shortly after super Tuesday.

Or maybe not.


201 posted on 12/10/2011 7:48:37 AM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: xzins

“Ron Paul is not just nuts; he’s dangerous.”

Extremely dangerous to the status quo that the dems and gop have constructed for themselves.


202 posted on 12/10/2011 8:23:04 AM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: RKBA Democrat
If he wins or comes in a strong second, he’s established his creds.

So he'a a fraud too?

204 posted on 12/10/2011 10:58:24 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: SlightOfTongue

“And just how many ‘nut jobs’ will surface when all of you at FR finally realize that all this is being orchestrated by the elite in Washington and globally and that ‘911’ WAS an inside job?”

TROLL. Paulbot lib troll.


205 posted on 12/10/2011 11:28:23 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: SlightOfTongue

“And just how many ‘nut jobs’ will surface when all of you at FR finally realize that all this is being orchestrated by the elite in Washington and globally and that ‘911’ WAS an inside job?”

TROLL. Paulbot lib troll.


206 posted on 12/10/2011 11:28:40 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: dragnet2; little jeremiah

Pariotic Conservatives who see RuPaul for what he is are “lumberheads” ?

You do realize you’ve just called the vast majority of Conservatives stupid, right ? Just like some dingus on the dailykos or DU.

Your Liberaltarian hero is the one who’s a lumberhead. He should pack up his Depends and retire to Iran. There, he’ll be free to be the Jew hating animal we all know him to be.


207 posted on 12/10/2011 11:38:19 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: jmc813

ROTFLOL!

I’m not faggot obsessed; I just have a mission to shine the light of truth on some of the dark corners.

“Gay” means happy and carefree; the very opposite of mentally ill sex perverts. Or Ronulan cultists.


208 posted on 12/10/2011 12:12:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: xzins

Very worthy observations.


209 posted on 12/10/2011 12:18:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Mike Darancette

“So he’a a fraud too?”

No moreso than the other gop candidates currently in the lead.


210 posted on 12/10/2011 1:01:31 PM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: SlightOfTongue

If you value your FR account, you will NOT bring that nutjob 9/11 was an inside job crap to FR.

Your account will go *poof*.

Guaranfreepingteed.


211 posted on 12/10/2011 1:31:27 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
It's only 'crap' to people who are NOT in the know. It is a shame that all the people that I know and respect at FR, many of them have their heads in the sand about subjects like this and for some reason they can't get their head around that their own government and their minions could be this ruthless. I didn't believe myself for a long time, but now I know for sure.

Truth is more valuable to me than anything, Jim. So you do what you need to do.

212 posted on 12/10/2011 8:04:22 PM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: SlightOfTongue

One other thing, Jim. I don’t particularly agree with or even like Ron Paul, so it has nothing to do with him at all.


213 posted on 12/10/2011 8:15:34 PM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: SlightOfTongue

Opus accepted.

bye.


214 posted on 12/10/2011 8:18:01 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: TheOldLady

Another Truther bites the dust!

Ping!

ZOT! ZOT! ZOT! ZOT! ZOT!.....


215 posted on 12/11/2011 1:23:53 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: TheOldLady

Oops.

It’s #’s 211-214.

Got the Zot! by Jim personally.

ZOT! ZOT! ZOT! ZOT! ZOT!.....


216 posted on 12/11/2011 1:27:04 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

You still haven’t told the the FR universe who you actually support for President.


217 posted on 12/11/2011 2:08:17 AM PST by jmc813
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To: jmc813

“You still haven’t told the the FR universe who you actually support for President.”

Michele Bachman.


218 posted on 12/11/2011 2:34:23 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: jmc813

I’m also considering Santorum and Gingrich.


219 posted on 12/11/2011 2:38:09 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
Gorelick Memo. Able Danger. John Doe Number two. Flight 800. Ongoing failure, then obstruction which prevented, military intelligence and civillian law enforcement agencies from connecting the dots.

I'm no troofer, but if DC didn't orchestrate the events of 9/11, they damn sure enabled the actors by hobbling and muzzling the agencies which could have prevented it.

Now they just grope grandmas, look for bitter clingers, and tell us we're "safe".

(Unless they're running guns to and laundering money for the Cartels while keeping the border open since Eisenhower's Operation Wetback).

220 posted on 12/11/2011 3:00:34 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: SlightOfTongue; Jim Thompson; Absolutely Nobama; darkwing104; 50mm; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; ..


So long, SlightOfTongue (Posting History)

Hat Tip to Absolutely Nobama and Jim Thompson

"Opus accepted," from Slight of a lot more than Tongue now, by The Man Himself



Short but sweet opus


Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

221 posted on 12/11/2011 3:27:03 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: SlightOfTongue

If I ever go crazy I pray I never go crazy in this sad way.


222 posted on 12/11/2011 3:36:57 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Perry Christmas & Happy Newt Year!)
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To: SlightOfTongue
many of them have their heads in the sand about subjects like this and for some reason they can't get their head around that their own government and their minions could be this ruthless. I didn't believe myself for a long time, but now I know for sure.

I didn't know Rosie has had an account on FR.


223 posted on 12/11/2011 6:05:01 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
BTW slick, I've got breaking news for ya. Ron Paul won't be elected, so you can relax.

To set you straight, I support this guy only when he tells it like it is, going against the group think. I give this guy credit only because he says a lot of things which are absolutely correct. Like what he said here for instance. Apparently only you and a few others had no clue Bush had intentions of going into Iraq before 911 occurred.

It was no secret to anyone except maybe you and a few others. You can argue against this all you care to.

The old guy didn't say or mean Bush was happy about all those who died on 911, only that it allowed him to open the door or implement what his intentions were prior to the event.

You're entitled to your opinion, but not your *own* facts.

224 posted on 12/11/2011 10:20:54 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: SlightOfTongue; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ..
Merry Christmas, Truther SlightBrain! ZOT!

To be added or removed from the Viking Kitty/ZOT Ping List, FReepmail Darkwing104 or 50mm.

225 posted on 12/11/2011 12:47:51 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: dragnet2

Yes, “glee” is often used to describe sadness....How silly of me. /sarc

RuPaul is proving, for the millionth time, that he hates America. If you want to defend that, be my guest.


226 posted on 12/11/2011 1:26:09 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Did they orchestrate it? No, I don't think so.

But did they leave the barn door wide open? Yes they did.

227 posted on 12/11/2011 1:28:24 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

FURPUPOSFOAD.


228 posted on 12/11/2011 1:32:31 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
OoooK, this guy said Bush was happy that thousands of Americans were brutally murdered. What he said had nothing to do with Bush's intentions of going into Iraq prior to 911.

Brilliant!

229 posted on 12/11/2011 1:37:30 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: SlightOfTongue; Arrowhead1952; 50mm; darkwing104; Darksheare; TheOldLady; Absolutely Nobama
Oh I say, yet another generous application of static electricity. Most entertaining!


230 posted on 12/11/2011 1:41:49 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: SlightOfTongue

Slightedintelligence....

buy bye.


231 posted on 12/11/2011 1:58:54 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
Did they orchestrate it? No, I don't think so. But did they leave the barn door wide open? Yes they did.

That's where I'm at. I could see Iraq, but only as a gateway to Afghanistan and a flanking position to Iran. (Not saying Saddam and his boys didn't need killing, just that that alone was a murky strategic justification for the operation--and no, I fully respect all the folks who went in and those who are still serving, they have done an excellent job of securing the objectives they have been given.)

Unfortunately, current political policy negates those strategic positions, and essentially fulfils the whole "quagmire" and "Another Vietnam" meme the Liberals have been pushing from day one. (The US Military won the war, the US Government snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, and it is happening again because the instability in the region is actively being promoted elsewhere to establish a Caliphate, or at least placing the arsenals of nations in the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood and affiliates like AlQaida, and our sudden withdrawal will likely leave a power vacumn which will be filled by the MB, AQ, and other affiliates of AQ).

Either we press for victory in the region or withdraw, there will be no 'steady state' of equilibrium without pouring unimaginable treasure and the cream of American soldiers into the breach.

Frankly, we're broke.

Our southern border is an unsecured superhighway into the heartland and even the coasts and urban regions, and policy--from waving mexican trucks across to gunrunning and money laundering for the Cartels to leaving the border unsecured--sucks.

Reading the writing on the wall, we have to secure the border or the same people who read Sun Tsu in Arabic will exploit the weakness, and may have done so already to preposition what they need to create unimaginable mayhem.

Again, Government policy is facillitating the next disaster.

No doubt, it will be blamed on the political opponents of the people in power in the US, currently the rich, Christians, firearm owners, and those who have pushed for securing the border and desire a govenrment which conforms with its Constitutional mandates and restrictions.

Similar in fashion to the way others have secured power in the last century, those who do the dirty work will be promised much and will also be the victims of the same power structure they think will benefit them once power is consolidated--and that covers a wide variety of 'useful idiots'.

Just my $0.02

232 posted on 12/11/2011 2:33:28 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz!


233 posted on 12/11/2011 4:25:04 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Our country is broke because of Socialist Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and bloated federal pensions.

If you’ll note, none of the above is Constitutional.


234 posted on 12/11/2011 4:28:22 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: Old Sarge

:)


235 posted on 12/11/2011 4:32:34 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I’m sorry if my last post came off as rude, but conspiracy theory nonsense bores me to tears.

9/11 happened because a bunch of Islamo-Nazis flew planes into buildings. End of story. Could it have been prevented ? Maybe, if the Bill Caligula regime hadn’t made a mess of things before Bush came along.

Now, don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot to blame Bush for, (Medicaid Part D, NCLB, the bailouts) but causing 9/11 is not one of them, nor is being happy about it as RuPaul suggests.


236 posted on 12/11/2011 5:21:04 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
I'm not saying Bush caused 9/11, far from it. I agree the persons who commit the crime are the ones responsible. Bush failed to recognize that existing agencies were hobbled in their mission by Clinton era pronouncements and failed to address those problems.

I think the blame for those and other failures goes directly to those who failed to note the Islamic connection with the first WTC bombing, OK City bombing (John Does and the Nichols connection to Abu Sayef in the Phillipines), the Flight 800 and possibly other plane 'crashes', the embassy bombings in Africa and the Khobar Towers bombing.

There was a general escalation in the severity of events, finally capped by 9/11--an undeniable terrorist attack that couldn't be simply printed below the fold or in the back of the A section of the paper, and one which could not be glossed over.

Perhaps if the onus hadn't been to promote the 'homegrown hayseed terrorist' meme in order to advance Gun Control Agendae, (similar to the current mess involving 'border violence' and similar attempts to further infringe on the RKBA with gunwalker), the dots would have been more generally connected.

Once, however, the Clintons had set the theme, no one was in a hurry to make the point that foreign terrorists had been operating here for far too long, especially not agency hacks who would suffer, career-wise, for the diversion of efforts.

Sometimes there is a generalized conspiracy (note lowercase 'c'). It doesn't start out that way, it becomes defined as policy, institutionalized, and once sucked in, few will change their position until all are forced to do so.

Of course, paybacks for Gulf War I may have been on the mind of those who wanted to build their status in the Islamic world, and who better to dump them on than GHW Bush's son?

237 posted on 12/11/2011 7:17:32 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
While I agree about Welfare, Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security (the latter two paid for by the boomers and later who likely won't get it), profligate spending at all levels and a host of other extraConstitutional Departments have siphoned off the treasury for far too long.

There, of course, is the swirling route to the abyss, especially when one considers the employees, pensions, and benefits which have accrued for all those extraConstitutional employees.

The only nation we should be building, at least according to my copy of the Constitution, is this one...and then the Federal Government should only be providing standards of measurement, coining money, and generally settling State level disputes.

(In the meantime, if National Security is so important, we could close that pesky southern border. It's been open since the Eisenhower Administration, and was recognized as a problem then.)

While Government can foster an environment suitable for the expansion and innovation of private sector business, safeguarding the inventor's rights and facillitating trade, it never was the engine of growth which was intended to provide direct employment for any but the absolute minimum number of people required to fulfil its Constitutional Duties.

The unfortunate state of affairs is that the Federal Government has become a self-perpetuating entity, writing the rules which demand it expand to fulfil ever more extensive and invasive roles while usurping the power of the States and the People. It is the Congressional abdication of legislative duties which has led to the Congress requiring that Executive Branch Agencies promulgate regulations with the weight of law and set the standards which ultimately determine their manpower needs.

These fiefdoms have long exceeded any Constitutional Authority, and continue to grow.

238 posted on 12/11/2011 9:01:50 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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