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Repeal of sodomy, bestiality ban sparks fight on Defense bill (someone actually read it)
The Hill ^ | 12/09/11 | Jeremy Herb

Posted on 12/09/2011 2:44:45 PM PST by Libloather

Repeal of sodomy, bestiality ban sparks fight on Defense bill
By Jeremy Herb - 12/09/11 01:53 PM ET

As the final Defense authorization bill gets hammered out in conference committee, one surprising issue is riling both social conservatives and animal rights activists: the repeal of a ban on sodomy and bestiality.

The Senate bill, which was passed last week, removed an article from the Uniform Code of Military Justice stating “unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy.”

But the article is still included in the House bill, and House Republicans want it to remain in the final bill.

News of the bestiality repeal has sparked conservative groups like the Family Research Council to warn of a “campaign to radicalize the country from the Pentagon out,” even if the intent to repeal bestiality wasn’t there. The group likened the repeal to last year's end of the military's "Don't ask, don't tell" rule on gays serving openly in the military.

“In its rush to accommodate the Left, Congress may have inadvertently opened the door to even more perversion,” Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said in a statement. “In its haste to make gay sex an official part of military life, the Left could be unintentionally repealing the ban on bestiality too.”

House and Senate negotiators are in the midst of hammering out a host of contentious issues on the Defense bill, including the detention of terror suspects, sanctions on the Central Bank of Iran and chaplains performing same-sex marriages. The White House has threatened to veto the legislation over provisions mandating military custody of terror suspects.

The issue of bestiality, on the other hand, doesn’t appear to have taken up too much of the White House’s time. Lester Kinsolving, who writes for conservative website WorldNetDaily, asked about the issue at a White House briefing Monday, prompting press secretary Jay Carney to say: “Let’s get to something more serious.”

That response, however, drew a rebuke from the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

“We were upset to note that you flippantly addressed the recently approved repeal of the military ban on bestiality,” the group wrote in a letter to Carney. “With respect, this is no laughing matter. Our office has been flooded with calls from Americans who are upset that this ban has been repealed — and for good reason.”

As for the final bill, one source close to the conference committee negotiations said the repeal is unlikely to survive, and the provision would remain.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bestiality; bill; defense; repeal; sodomy
The Senate bill, which was passed last week, removed an article

Need to find out who did that.

1 posted on 12/09/2011 2:44:51 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Did anyone think we'd sink so low so fast? This so called commander in chief should be brought up on treason charges.
(yeah, I know it will never happen)
2 posted on 12/09/2011 2:48:15 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Libloather

Fortunately, this has to be reconciled with the House bill. Let`s see how it shakes out.. whoever inserted that UCMJ repeal needs some serious rebuke.


3 posted on 12/09/2011 2:49:52 PM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: Libloather

if i were a bestiality polygamist...

how many exemptions would i get for 3 litters of 10?

:)


4 posted on 12/09/2011 2:50:36 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Libloather

The House Republicans, if they had a strategic bone in their bodies, should publicly ask Harry Reid why he supports bestiality.


5 posted on 12/09/2011 2:51:20 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Libloather

Mean while, back at the ranch, the ‘RATS have been whining, throwing tantrums and crying all day because those pesky Wepublicans are trying to attach the Keystone Pipeline to another freeloader bill. They’re accusing the GOPers of “playing politics”. LOL! This after the ‘RATS attached The Freedom to Copulate With Animals Act to the DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS bill.


6 posted on 12/09/2011 2:51:21 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Are we “Fed Up” yet?


7 posted on 12/09/2011 2:54:14 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Libloather
None of this was INADVERTENT. What went on is the committee, as usual, farmed the task of discovering "problem text" to a special interest group.

They did a mark up and passed it back to the chairman as being something they could stand behind.

In this case, since the Chairman is a total idiot, and the ranking Republican is going desperately senile, and no one on the committee gives a doggone, the ban on bestiality got deleted ~ and that's exactly to the satisfaction of the special interest group that did the review.

Those people are, of course, homosexual activists.

If folks didn't know about it earlier, these people want to screw each other, animals AND children. They cannot be trusted.

8 posted on 12/09/2011 2:54:51 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Libloather
“unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy.”

Thank goodness that natural carnal copulation with an animal is still legal.
9 posted on 12/09/2011 2:58:25 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (I also think that Obama should be defeated.)
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To: muawiyah

http://www.fedupthebook.com/

I guess people have forgotten that Rick Perry wrote this great book.

“Fed Up”

http://www.amazon.com/Fed-Up-Fight-America-Washington/dp/0316132950/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1288722467&sr=1-1


10 posted on 12/09/2011 3:00:23 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
The House Republicans, if they had a strategic bone in their bodies, should publicly ask Harry Reid why he supports bestiality.

They could ask the same of all the republicans that voted for it as well.
11 posted on 12/09/2011 3:04:45 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Libloather
it don't get sicker than this...
12 posted on 12/09/2011 3:10:25 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

The muslims support it.

The number one google searches in muslim countries are on beastiality and pedophilia.


13 posted on 12/09/2011 3:17:48 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Question Liberal Authority
...unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the ...... opposite sex

Well, that part anyway needed to come out. 99% of the military is in violation of that.

14 posted on 12/09/2011 3:20:51 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Libloather

Didn’t the Senate already vote 93-7 on this bill? McCain later claimed he didn’t read the repeal of this law. Does he even read any of the crap he signs? They are all to busy living it up on our tax dollars to give a rats aspirin.


15 posted on 12/09/2011 3:21:28 PM PST by VicVega (LSU is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. GEAUX TIGERS, Geaux Saints)
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To: YankeeReb

It is the American people who have created the climate and the method for all of these things to happen. Solzhenitsyn if he were here would say it is because the people have “forgotten God.”


16 posted on 12/09/2011 3:27:13 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the March 6 ballot.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Libloather.
...one surprising issue is riling both social conservatives and animal rights activists: the repeal of a ban on sodomy and bestiality. The Senate bill, which was passed last week, removed an article from the Uniform Code of Military Justice stating "unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy." But the article is still included in the House bill, and House Republicans want it to remain in the final bill.
I noticed that the spin here is that 100% of Republicans are 100% in favor of the repeal.


17 posted on 12/09/2011 3:36:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Libloather

Most Americans are probably wondering when Bestiality became an alternative lifestyle.....

Maybe when parents allowed schools to act as if 11 year olds are old enough for sex? (see NYC)


18 posted on 12/09/2011 3:49:28 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

It is apparently legal or not outlawed in about 11 states


19 posted on 12/09/2011 3:51:49 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Libloather
They have to repeal this. Even though Obmination repealed Don't Ask - Don't tell, Article 125 of the UCMJ prohibits homosexual activity. So two guys/gals getting caught in a homosexual act could still be Courts Martial and thrown out of the military.

What the GLBT groups didn't realize with the repeal of DADT was that the protections of "Don't ask, Don't tell, (and most overlooked) Don't Pursue" are now gone! The military commanders and the senior NCO corps CAN pursue, track, monitor and eventually get evidence of a servicemembers crime under Article 125. Gays can't help themselves, they're going to do it. They're going to make a remark or comment that will 'out' themselves. Then it's just a matter of gathering the evidence and giving them a one-way ticket out the front gate.

20 posted on 12/09/2011 3:53:54 PM PST by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Libloather

McCain and Graham voted for it.


21 posted on 12/09/2011 4:25:25 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: Question Liberal Authority

It’s just unnatural if a Republican, Independent, or Conservative do it. It’s considered natural if its performed by Democrats.


22 posted on 12/09/2011 5:06:28 PM PST by matthew fuller (Hey Buckwheat- What the Hell are we paying you for?...(GO NEWT!))
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To: GeronL
It is apparently legal or not outlawed in about 11 states

It's also legal in quite a few states and a lot of countries to marry your cousin... somebody needs to put together a map, I bet there'd be some overlap between the two issues.
23 posted on 12/09/2011 7:22:25 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Some states have never even thought they needed to ban it though.


24 posted on 12/09/2011 7:42:29 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Libloather
Obama Repeals Ban on Bestiality.

I knew it!


25 posted on 12/09/2011 9:46:02 PM PST by garjog
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