Skip to comments.Hillary Clinton: Religious objections to homosexuality like supporting honor killings, widow burning
Posted on 12/09/2011 3:50:23 PM PST by wagglebee
WASHINGTON, D.C. December 8, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) In a speech designed to convince the world that gay rights are human rights, and human rights are gay rights, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said religious objections to homosexuality should not stand in the way of vigorous United Nations action to promote the homosexual rights agenda.
On Tuesday, Clinton said promoting the global acceptance of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people is one of the remaining human rights challenges of our time, likening the effort to ending racial, sexual, or religious discrimination.
She noted that perhaps the most challenging issue arises when people cite religious or cultural values as a reason to violate or not to protect the human rights of LGBT citizens. These objections, she said, are not unlike the justification offered for violent practices towards women like honor killings, widow burning, or female genital mutilation.
She stated worldwide opinions are still evolving on homosexuality as they did with slavery, and what was once justified as sanctioned by God is now properly reviled as an unconscionable violation of human rights.
In each of these cases, we came to learn that no [religious] practice or tradition trumps the human rights that belong to all of us, she said.
She insisted the UN must oppose all forms of human rights violations against homosexuals and transgender people, from execution and banishment to criminalizing LGBT status or behavior, denying them free access to public spaces, or the bullying and exclusion that takes place in the United States. I speak about this subject knowing that my own countrys record on human rights for gay people is far from perfect, Clinton said.
Clinton said that that notions that gay people are pedophiles, that homosexuality is a disease that can be caught or cured, or that gays recruit others to become gay are simply not true.
The secretary of state added that nations must pass LGBT civil rights laws, even when they offend the majority of a nations citizens. Leadership, by definition, means being out in front of your people when it is called for, Clinton said. [W]e are each free to believe whatever we choose But progress comes from changes in laws.
The address made a five-fold argument that LGBT rights are not distinct from human rights, that homosexuality is not uniquely Western, that religion is not a valid defense, that no serious argument exists against public homosexual behavior, and that all humans must do their part to advance LGBT rights.
Clintons speech, delivered in Geneva on Tuesday to celebrate International Human Rights Day, underscored the fact that the Obama administration has made the worldwide acceptance of homosexuality a pillar of its foreign policy at the UN and around the world. Her address came the same day President Obama announced a plan to reshape American foreign policy to promote global acceptance of homosexuality. The plan instructs all foreign officers to combat discrimination, homophobia, and intolerance on the basis of LGBT status or conduct and establishes a $3 million Global Equality Fund to finance homosexual activists around the world.
The new initiative is only the latest in a series of steps the Obama administration has taken to push gay rights abroad. In the first-ever report on U.S. human rights to the UN Human Rights Council last year, the Obama administration noted, Debate continues over equal rights to marriage for LGBT Americans at the federal and state levels.
U.S. delegates advanced a measure opposing the criminalization of homosexuality in the UN Human Rights Council in March that won the support of 85 nations. In July 2010, the Obama administration helped the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission (IGLHRC) gain NGO status at the UN without the approval of that bodys NGO Committee and over a no action vote supported by a majority of members including Russia, China, and Egypt.
Buster Wilson, host of the American Family Radio Network program AFA Today, said, Hillary Clinton is now taking the fight on behalf of LGBT people on behalf of the Obama administration to the front lines. He said her notion that deeply held religious beliefs are standing in the way of human rights for LGBT people was simply unbelievable.
Wilson cited her comments as one of several examples that has convinced some observers the Obama administration is waging a war on religion.
Well, I'm fairly sure that the homosexual agenda is very near and dear to Zero and Hillary.
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Hillary’s bull**** is getting really old. Really old. If for no other reason, we need to boot Obama’s ass out in 2012 just so we can get Hillary out of government. She’s an embarrassment to America.
I sense Hillary! is moments away from bustin’ out of the closet herself.
Go over and present that position to the Saudis, Hillary.
“Go over and present that position to the Saudis, Hillary.”
Promoting these evils just foment hatred of our country; before we got into the “enlightening the world” crap, we were fairly well regarded & respected. Pushing deviance and child-murder on cultures thousands of years older than ours isn’t exactly flattering to the Third World...
Meanwhile onward abortion baby killers full speed ahead.
Hillary you ignorant slut. I swear some of this nonsense spouted by liberals nuts be inspired by demons. She is a fool. I refuse to listen to someone who says telling someone their behavior is wrong is morally equivalent to killing that person.
Already a bunch of countries in Africa are mad:
Africa reacts to Obama’s pro-gay rights foreign policy with ire
Jewish World Review ^ | 12/9/2011 | Mike Pflanz
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 9:26:45 AM by Former Fetus
The enshrinement of equal rights for homosexuals into US foreign policy activities has drawn quick ire from African nations, with one senior figure saying the notion is “abhorrent” across the continent.
President Obama has instructed officials across government to “ensure that US diplomacy and foreign assistance promote and protect the human rights of lesbian, gay, and transgender persons” around the world.
Under the move, legal, moral, and financial support will be boosted for gay rights organizations, emergency assistance will be sent to groups or individuals facing threats, and asylum in the US will be offered to people forced to flee anti-gay persecution in their countries, Mr. Obama said.
Why they want to kill us - reason #7
Says the top dyke in the US.
I wouldn’t mind going back to the laws we had on the books regarding homosexuality at the time this country was founded.
Same for adultery and rape, too.
We’d have both been spared Bill AND Hillary’s impact on this country.
I know in Africa presidents and bishops have harsh words for homosexuals (in public), and against their Christian brethren in the US who sold out to them.
Hillary, hang it up, bag.
Without Bubba, you’d be nothing...and you prove it each and every day you open your pie hole.
Close, but no Cigar
It’s only a matter of time before such laws locally and state will be implemented. It’s cultural suicide not to.
Homosexuals should be thankful to Jesus. He came, suffered and died and fulfilled the law for all and now we are no longer admonished to kill homosexuals.
Of course, I don't expect that Hillary or Obama would know anything about that.
Call me silly, but I don’t equate speaking with murder and I don’t think I need my Prosecutor experience to reach that conclusion.
Someone should remind this ignorant fat ass that all our rights come from God, not the government.
Why didn’t she give this speech while visiting countries like Syria and Libya???
A certain remark made by Bubba to Gennifer Flowers, about Hillary, comes to mind, but this being a decent, family friendly site, I can’t even paraphrase it.
“She noted that perhaps the most challenging issue arises when people cite religious or cultural values as a reason to violate or not to protect the human rights of LGBT citizens. These objections, she said, are not unlike the justification offered for violent practices towards women like honor killings, widow burning, or female genital mutilation. “
She is equating objection to homosexuality with violent murders and assault. It’s not worth it to even address this issue with her because she is using wild hyberbole. Similar to asking, “When did you stop beating your wife?”
(standing ovation with multitudes of golf claps.)
‘She stated worldwide opinions are still evolving on homosexuality as they did with slavery, and what was once justified as sanctioned by God is now properly reviled as an unconscionable violation of human rights.’
Hitlery needs to read 1 Timothy 1:8-11.
Verse 10 condemns both homosexual behavior and taking someone captive in order to sell him into slavery. We need to remember this whenever the libs tell us believing in Biblical views of sex and marriage is the same as “supporting slavery.”
What else would a lesbian say?
So Hillary sees the rights of perverts trump the religious rights of others.
You’re right. Most of us know the rumor which has existed for at least two decades. It is no wonder Bill was such a frustrated womanizer.
Take it up with God:
Revelation 22:13-15 MKJV
(13) I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, the First and the Last.
(14) Blessed are they who do His commandments, that their authority will be over the Tree of Life, and they may enter in by the gates into the city.
(15) But outside are the dogs, and the sorcerers, and the fornicators, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and makes a lie.
NB: ‘dogs’ is a reference to male prostitutes. Recall that the Book of Revelation was dictated to the Apostle John by Jesus himself. And here in the last few paragraphs, Jesus is telling us who will not be allowed to enter Jerusalem, a clear metaphor for salvation. On that list are ‘fornicators’, or people who practice illicit sexual sexual relations, whether those are homo or hetero sexual.
“Out damn spot”.
Freep you, Hitlery Rotten Clinton!!
I might agree with her depending on who she's talking about. If she's talking about Muslims who will stone someone for the sin of homosexuality, then I will agree. If she's talking about modern Christians who object mainly to the notion that homosexuals deserve special rights and to the aggressive public promotion of homosexuality as an equally valid lifestyle choice, then I would have to disagree.
"I KNOW BUT ONE CODE OF MORALITY FOR MEN WHETHER ACTING SINGLY OR COLLECTIVELY"
Sure, we’ll just change the Old and New Testaments to make everyone happy......
It never ends with these people. It never ends.
She is wrong, of course. Homosexuality kills those who practice it and their victims. Honor killing doesn’t kill the practitioner; it kills his victims.
“Clinton said that that notions that ‘gay people are pedophiles, that homosexuality is a disease that can be caught or cured, or that gays recruit others to become gay’ are ‘simply not true.’ “
In other words——
“Forget all that God stuff, Bitter Clingers! We Are The Left! We know all!”
It’s Hillary spouting “the gay party line” that gay rights are the same and equivalent to civil rights and racial discrimination, yada, yada, yada. She and they are wrong.
I wasn’t aware hillary ever had any expertise on religion unless it had something to do with a sacred cow in DC.
She better watch it. If she were a Pubbie, she would taken to the woodshed for those anti-Islam remarks
“Sure, well just change the Old and New Testaments to make everyone happy......”
Even if anyone changed the translations(like this ridiculous feminist “equality” translation of the Bible I ran across this week), we can never change the original autographs and what that actually teach in reality. After all, it’s His work not ours.
“It never ends with these people. It never ends.”
You’re right. They’ll never be content or happy. And they’ll blame it all on Christians, never themselves.
This is why we will lose this debate—badly. In the end, the issues that normal people have with homosexuals and their behavior are moral objections b/c they violate God’s Law. If someone doesn’t care about God or the Bible, then that person wins by default. I have been in several debates about this recently, and I know of what I speak. I believe there are a large number of people like that, including many that even claim to be Christian.
“This is why we will lose this debatebadly. In the end, the issues that normal people have with homosexuals and their behavior are moral objections b/c they violate Gods Law. If someone doesnt care about God or the Bible, then that person wins by default.”
Not at the Final Judgment they don’t.
“I have been in several debates about this recently, and I know of what I speak. I believe there are a large number of people like that, including many that even claim to be Christian.”
Those who claim to be Christian should read the following verses:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
1 Timothy 1:9-10
And for those who try to play the Jesus never said anything about homosexuality trick, He defined marriage as consisting of a male and a female in Matthew 19:4-6
And the word fornications He used in Mark 7:21
and Matthew 15:19
is translated from the Greek word porneia which means among other things, illicit sexual intercourse
adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.
Fifty million abortions promoted by ultra leftists like Hillary Clinton is not shining example of “enlightening the world”. What self-righteous hubris.
Don’t forget that the homo agenda has been force fed on us for about thirty years through our television screens as well as the schools and publishing industry. The liberal views dominate in these industries and they are so smug and sure of their superiority. Unfortunately, they have the microphone and we do not.
For thirty years we have been subjected to these falsehoods:
*homsexuality is normal, people are just born that way
*science proves through some widely promoted studies that homosexuality is biological
*if homosexuals are that way naturally then it is discrimination to oppose their behavior
*homosexuals are just nice people who mean no harm
*the homosexual agenda will not harm us in any way and will not interfere with marriage
*they are not trying to indoctrinate our children
Repeat these lies over and over and work these messages into many kinds of entertainment programming and you have the widespread confusion that we see today. They are trying to ensnare our kids because they reach out to entertainment that kids like and they are even showing kids in homosexual scenes on programs like Degrassi High.
Of course they will say that showing two boys kissing is not ensnaring kids to try such acts but only making those poor kids who were *born that way* more comfortable with their natural inclination.
We have to challenge the central lie of the homosexual movement that they are *born that way*. Before the all-out attack by the homosexuals, there was lots of scientific enquiry into homosexuality and there was lots of evidence that it came from family problems.
It seems that many people who have family members who are homosexual feel that they have to defend homosexuality as something natural. As many prominent people have been shown to have homosexual family members, they have been used to move public opinion towards what the homosexuals want which is total acceptance of their lifestyle. I think we should keep in mind that many families also have drug addicts or mentally ill people in the family but that is not used to promote drug addiction or mental illness as a normal state.
Indeed. Abortion(not exclusively but especially for being “a woman’s choice”) is far closer to honor killings, widow burnings and slavery than disapproval of same-sex sexual acts ever could be.
Millions of babies are aborted throughout the world for no other reason than that they are female. China and India have a large disparity between the male and female population because so many people abort their female children.
This poor guy was not attractive in women's clothing plus, he looked so ashamed of himself that I wondered if he lost a bet or something. this guy was clearly not happy being dressed up as a woman. I really think he would have had no problem if he'd gone out wearing "gender appropriate" clothing (see how PC I can be?)
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