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Hillary Clinton: Religious objections to homosexuality like supporting honor killings, widow burning
LifeSiteNews ^ | 12/9/11 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 12/09/2011 3:50:23 PM PST by wagglebee

WASHINGTON, D.C. December 8, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In a speech designed to convince the world that “gay rights are human rights, and human rights are gay rights,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said religious objections to homosexuality should not stand in the way of vigorous United Nations action to promote the homosexual rights agenda.

On Tuesday, Clinton said promoting the global acceptance of “gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people” is “one of the remaining human rights challenges of our time,” likening the effort to ending racial, sexual, or religious discrimination.

She noted that perhaps the “most challenging issue arises when people cite religious or cultural values as a reason to violate or not to protect the human rights of LGBT citizens.” These objections, she said, are “not unlike the justification offered for violent practices towards women like honor killings, widow burning, or female genital mutilation.”

She stated worldwide “opinions are still evolving” on homosexuality as they did with slavery, and “what was once justified as sanctioned by God is now properly reviled as an unconscionable violation of human rights.”

“In each of these cases, we came to learn that no [religious] practice or tradition trumps the human rights that belong to all of us,” she said.

She insisted the UN must oppose all forms of human rights violations against homosexuals and “transgender” people, from execution and banishment to criminalizing LGBT “status or behavior,” denying them free access to “public spaces,” or the “bullying and exclusion” that takes place in the United States. “I speak about this subject knowing that my own country’s record on human rights for gay people is far from perfect,” Clinton said.

Clinton said that that notions that “gay people are pedophiles, that homosexuality is a disease that can be caught or cured, or that gays recruit others to become gay” are “simply not true.”

The secretary of state added that nations must pass LGBT civil rights laws, even when they offend the majority of a nation’s citizens. “Leadership, by definition, means being out in front of your people when it is called for,” Clinton said. “[W]e are each free to believe whatever we choose…But progress comes from changes in laws.”

The address made a five-fold argument that LGBT rights are not distinct from human rights, that homosexuality is not uniquely Western, that religion is not a valid defense, that no serious argument exists against public homosexual behavior, and that all humans must do their part to advance LGBT rights. 

Clinton’s speech, delivered in Geneva on Tuesday to celebrate International Human Rights Day, underscored the fact that the Obama administration has made the worldwide acceptance of homosexuality a pillar of its foreign policy at the UN and around the world. Her address came the same day President Obama announced a plan to reshape American foreign policy to promote global acceptance of homosexuality. The plan instructs all foreign officers to “combat discrimination, homophobia, and intolerance on the basis of LGBT status or conduct” and establishes a $3 million “Global Equality Fund” to finance homosexual activists around the world.

The new initiative is only the latest in a series of steps the Obama administration has taken to push gay rights abroad. In the first-ever report on U.S. human rights to the UN Human Rights Council last year, the Obama administration noted, “Debate continues over equal rights to marriage for LGBT Americans at the federal and state levels.”

U.S. delegates advanced a measure opposing the criminalization of homosexuality in the UN Human Rights Council in March that won the support of 85 nations. In July 2010, the Obama administration helped the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission (IGLHRC) gain NGO status at the UN without the approval of that body’s NGO Committee and over a “no action” vote supported by a majority of members including Russia, China, and Egypt.

Buster Wilson, host of the American Family Radio Network program “AFA Today,” said, “Hillary Clinton is now…taking the fight on behalf of LGBT people on behalf of the Obama administration to the front lines.” He said her notion that “deeply held religious beliefs are standing in the way of human rights for LGBT people” was simply “unbelievable.” 

Wilson cited her comments as one of several examples that has convinced some observers the Obama administration is waging a “war on religion.”


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“Hillary Clinton is now…taking the fight on behalf of LGBT people on behalf of the Obama administration to the front lines.”

Well, I'm fairly sure that the homosexual agenda is very near and dear to Zero and Hillary.

1 posted on 12/09/2011 3:50:31 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 12/09/2011 3:51:27 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Hillary’s bull**** is getting really old. Really old. If for no other reason, we need to boot Obama’s ass out in 2012 just so we can get Hillary out of government. She’s an embarrassment to America.


3 posted on 12/09/2011 3:53:08 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: wagglebee

I sense Hillary! is moments away from bustin’ out of the closet herself.


4 posted on 12/09/2011 3:54:33 PM PST by skeeter
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To: wagglebee

Go over and present that position to the Saudis, Hillary.


5 posted on 12/09/2011 3:56:23 PM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: ScottinVA

“Go over and present that position to the Saudis, Hillary.”

Promoting these evils just foment hatred of our country; before we got into the “enlightening the world” crap, we were fairly well regarded & respected. Pushing deviance and child-murder on cultures thousands of years older than ours isn’t exactly flattering to the Third World...


6 posted on 12/09/2011 4:02:34 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: wagglebee

Meanwhile onward abortion baby killers full speed ahead.


7 posted on 12/09/2011 4:02:50 PM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Hillary you ignorant slut. I swear some of this nonsense spouted by liberals nuts be inspired by demons. She is a fool. I refuse to listen to someone who says telling someone their behavior is wrong is morally equivalent to killing that person.


8 posted on 12/09/2011 4:03:32 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Already a bunch of countries in Africa are mad:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818269/posts

Africa reacts to Obama’s pro-gay rights foreign policy with ire
Jewish World Review ^ | 12/9/2011 | Mike Pflanz

Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 9:26:45 AM by Former Fetus

The enshrinement of equal rights for homosexuals into US foreign policy activities has drawn quick ire from African nations, with one senior figure saying the notion is “abhorrent” across the continent.

President Obama has instructed officials across government to “ensure that US diplomacy and foreign assistance promote and protect the human rights of lesbian, gay, and transgender persons” around the world.

Under the move, legal, moral, and financial support will be boosted for gay rights organizations, emergency assistance will be sent to groups or individuals facing threats, and asylum in the US will be offered to people forced to flee anti-gay persecution in their countries, Mr. Obama said.


9 posted on 12/09/2011 4:04:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: wagglebee
There's sort of a big difference between preferring to associate with normal people and wanting to execute those who are not normal.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 12/09/2011 4:04:52 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: wagglebee

Why they want to kill us - reason #7


11 posted on 12/09/2011 4:05:41 PM PST by jimmygrace
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To: wagglebee

Says the top dyke in the US.


12 posted on 12/09/2011 4:11:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: jimmygrace

I wouldn’t mind going back to the laws we had on the books regarding homosexuality at the time this country was founded.

Same for adultery and rape, too.

We’d have both been spared Bill AND Hillary’s impact on this country.


13 posted on 12/09/2011 4:12:39 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: little jeremiah

I know in Africa presidents and bishops have harsh words for homosexuals (in public), and against their Christian brethren in the US who sold out to them.


14 posted on 12/09/2011 4:13:04 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: wagglebee

Hillary, hang it up, bag.

Without Bubba, you’d be nothing...and you prove it each and every day you open your pie hole.


15 posted on 12/09/2011 4:13:12 PM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: wagglebee

Close, but no Cigar


16 posted on 12/09/2011 4:13:17 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: Secret Agent Man

It’s only a matter of time before such laws locally and state will be implemented. It’s cultural suicide not to.


17 posted on 12/09/2011 4:17:24 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: wagglebee
She stated worldwide “opinions are still evolving” on homosexuality as they did with slavery, and “what was once justified as sanctioned by God is now properly reviled as an unconscionable violation of human rights.”

Homosexuals should be thankful to Jesus. He came, suffered and died and fulfilled the law for all and now we are no longer admonished to kill homosexuals.

Of course, I don't expect that Hillary or Obama would know anything about that.

18 posted on 12/09/2011 4:18:29 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but I want a President who loves mine.)
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To: wagglebee

Call me silly, but I don’t equate speaking with murder and I don’t think I need my Prosecutor experience to reach that conclusion.


19 posted on 12/09/2011 4:18:47 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Someone should remind this ignorant fat ass that all our rights come from God, not the government.


20 posted on 12/09/2011 4:30:54 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: wagglebee

Why didn’t she give this speech while visiting countries like Syria and Libya???


21 posted on 12/09/2011 4:36:47 PM PST by proudpapa
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To: skeeter

22 posted on 12/09/2011 4:42:44 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: wagglebee

A certain remark made by Bubba to Gennifer Flowers, about Hillary, comes to mind, but this being a decent, family friendly site, I can’t even paraphrase it.


23 posted on 12/09/2011 4:51:50 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Merry Christmas to all)
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To: wagglebee

“She noted that perhaps the “most challenging issue arises when people cite religious or cultural values as a reason to violate or not to protect the human rights of LGBT citizens.” These objections, she said, are “not unlike the justification offered for violent practices towards women like honor killings, widow burning, or female genital mutilation.” “

She is equating objection to homosexuality with violent murders and assault. It’s not worth it to even address this issue with her because she is using wild hyberbole. Similar to asking, “When did you stop beating your wife?”


24 posted on 12/09/2011 4:52:30 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: bunkerhill7

Bravo!!! Bravo!!!!

(standing ovation with multitudes of golf claps.)


25 posted on 12/09/2011 4:57:53 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: wagglebee; All

‘She stated worldwide “opinions are still evolving” on homosexuality as they did with slavery, and “what was once justified as sanctioned by God is now properly reviled as an unconscionable violation of human rights.”’

Hitlery needs to read 1 Timothy 1:8-11.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20timothy%201:8-11&version=ESVUK

Verse 10 condemns both homosexual behavior and taking someone captive in order to sell him into slavery. We need to remember this whenever the libs tell us believing in Biblical views of sex and marriage is the same as “supporting slavery.”


26 posted on 12/09/2011 5:38:12 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: wagglebee

What else would a lesbian say?


27 posted on 12/09/2011 5:41:48 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: wagglebee

So Hillary sees the rights of perverts trump the religious rights of others.


28 posted on 12/09/2011 5:43:52 PM PST by Jukeman (Texas Guy born and bred and proud of it.)
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To: skeeter

You’re right. Most of us know the rumor which has existed for at least two decades. It is no wonder Bill was such a frustrated womanizer.


29 posted on 12/09/2011 5:50:01 PM PST by Jukeman (Texas Guy born and bred and proud of it.)
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To: wagglebee

Take it up with God:

Revelation 22:13-15 MKJV

(13) I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, the First and the Last.

(14) Blessed are they who do His commandments, that their authority will be over the Tree of Life, and they may enter in by the gates into the city.

(15) But outside are the dogs, and the sorcerers, and the fornicators, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and makes a lie.

NB: ‘dogs’ is a reference to male prostitutes. Recall that the Book of Revelation was dictated to the Apostle John by Jesus himself. And here in the last few paragraphs, Jesus is telling us who will not be allowed to enter Jerusalem, a clear metaphor for salvation. On that list are ‘fornicators’, or people who practice illicit sexual sexual relations, whether those are homo or hetero sexual.


30 posted on 12/09/2011 5:53:28 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: bunkerhill7

“Out damn spot”.


31 posted on 12/09/2011 5:57:17 PM PST by Jukeman (Texas Guy born and bred and proud of it.)
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To: wagglebee

Freep you, Hitlery Rotten Clinton!!


32 posted on 12/09/2011 5:59:16 PM PST by madmaximus (Mickey Mouse/Donald Duck 2012 Yes we can!!!)
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To: wagglebee
She noted that perhaps the “most challenging issue arises when people cite religious or cultural values as a reason to violate or not to protect the human rights of LGBT citizens.” These objections, she said, are “not unlike the justification offered for violent practices towards women like honor killings, widow burning, or female genital mutilation.”

I might agree with her depending on who she's talking about. If she's talking about Muslims who will stone someone for the sin of homosexuality, then I will agree. If she's talking about modern Christians who object mainly to the notion that homosexuals deserve special rights and to the aggressive public promotion of homosexuality as an equally valid lifestyle choice, then I would have to disagree.

33 posted on 12/09/2011 6:09:33 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: wagglebee
Religion?  No Religion required. It's common sense like, if the fruit is rotten, don't eat it.
 
"I KNOW BUT ONE CODE OF MORALITY FOR MEN WHETHER ACTING SINGLY OR COLLECTIVELY"
--Thomas Jefferson
 
Got Natural Law?
 
 
Sex, Evolution and Behavior
By Martin Daly and Margo Wilson
 
 
Got Socio-Biological Fitness?
 
 "Gay" penguins don't - not even in the San Francisco zoo
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=San+Francisco+gay+penguins
 
FAIL.

34 posted on 12/09/2011 6:11:12 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: wagglebee

Sure, we’ll just change the Old and New Testaments to make everyone happy......

It never ends with these people. It never ends.


35 posted on 12/09/2011 6:23:39 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: wagglebee

She is wrong, of course. Homosexuality kills those who practice it and their victims. Honor killing doesn’t kill the practitioner; it kills his victims.


36 posted on 12/09/2011 6:30:13 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: wagglebee

“Clinton said that that notions that ‘gay people are pedophiles, that homosexuality is a disease that can be caught or cured, or that gays recruit others to become gay’ are ‘simply not true.’ “

In other words——

“Forget all that God stuff, Bitter Clingers! We Are The Left! We know all!”


37 posted on 12/09/2011 6:37:16 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: wagglebee

It’s Hillary spouting “the gay party line” that gay rights are the same and equivalent to civil rights and racial discrimination, yada, yada, yada. She and they are wrong.


38 posted on 12/09/2011 7:16:29 PM PST by khnyny (Our government has become Hal in "2001 A Space Odyssey")
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To: wagglebee

I wasn’t aware hillary ever had any expertise on religion unless it had something to do with a sacred cow in DC.


39 posted on 12/09/2011 11:02:10 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: wagglebee

She better watch it. If she were a Pubbie, she would taken to the woodshed for those anti-Islam remarks


40 posted on 12/09/2011 11:07:11 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

“Sure, we’ll just change the Old and New Testaments to make everyone happy......”

Even if anyone changed the translations(like this ridiculous feminist “equality” translation of the Bible I ran across this week), we can never change the original autographs and what that actually teach in reality. After all, it’s His work not ours.

“It never ends with these people. It never ends.”

You’re right. They’ll never be content or happy. And they’ll blame it all on Christians, never themselves.


41 posted on 12/10/2011 1:40:23 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: wagglebee

This is why we will lose this debate—badly. In the end, the issues that normal people have with homosexuals and their behavior are moral objections b/c they violate God’s Law. If someone doesn’t care about God or the Bible, then that person wins by default. I have been in several debates about this recently, and I know of what I speak. I believe there are a large number of people like that, including many that even claim to be Christian.


42 posted on 12/10/2011 1:50:10 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

“This is why we will lose this debate—badly. In the end, the issues that normal people have with homosexuals and their behavior are moral objections b/c they violate God’s Law. If someone doesn’t care about God or the Bible, then that person wins by default.”

Not at the Final Judgment they don’t.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2020:15&version=KJV

“I have been in several debates about this recently, and I know of what I speak. I believe there are a large number of people like that, including many that even claim to be Christian.”

Those who claim to be Christian should read the following verses:

Romans 1:24-27

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%201:24-27&version=NKJV

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20corinthians%206:9-10&version=AMP

1 Timothy 1:9-10

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%201:9-10&version=ESVUK

And for those who try to play the “Jesus never said anything about homosexuality” trick, He defined marriage as consisting of a male and a female in Matthew 19:4-6

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2019:4-6&version=ESVUK

And the word fornications He used in Mark 7:21

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%207:21&version=NKJV

and Matthew 15:19

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2015:19&version=NKJV

is translated from the Greek word porneia which means among other things, illicit sexual intercourse
adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.


43 posted on 12/10/2011 2:25:08 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: kearnyirish2

Fifty million abortions promoted by ultra leftists like Hillary Clinton is not shining example of “enlightening the world”. What self-righteous hubris.


44 posted on 12/10/2011 3:19:15 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Don’t forget that the homo agenda has been force fed on us for about thirty years through our television screens as well as the schools and publishing industry. The liberal views dominate in these industries and they are so smug and sure of their superiority. Unfortunately, they have the microphone and we do not.

For thirty years we have been subjected to these falsehoods:
*homsexuality is normal, people are just born that way
*science proves through some widely promoted studies that homosexuality is biological
*if homosexuals are that way naturally then it is discrimination to oppose their behavior
*homosexuals are just nice people who mean no harm
*the homosexual agenda will not harm us in any way and will not interfere with marriage
*they are not trying to indoctrinate our children

Repeat these lies over and over and work these messages into many kinds of entertainment programming and you have the widespread confusion that we see today. They are trying to ensnare our kids because they reach out to entertainment that kids like and they are even showing kids in homosexual scenes on programs like Degrassi High.

Of course they will say that showing two boys kissing is not ensnaring kids to try such acts but only making those poor kids who were *born that way* more comfortable with their natural inclination.

We have to challenge the central lie of the homosexual movement that they are *born that way*. Before the all-out attack by the homosexuals, there was lots of scientific enquiry into homosexuality and there was lots of evidence that it came from family problems.

It seems that many people who have family members who are homosexual feel that they have to defend homosexuality as something natural. As many prominent people have been shown to have homosexual family members, they have been used to move public opinion towards what the homosexuals want which is total acceptance of their lifestyle. I think we should keep in mind that many families also have drug addicts or mentally ill people in the family but that is not used to promote drug addiction or mental illness as a normal state.


45 posted on 12/10/2011 4:01:18 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

Indeed. Abortion(not exclusively but especially for being “a woman’s choice”) is far closer to honor killings, widow burnings and slavery than disapproval of same-sex sexual acts ever could be.


46 posted on 12/10/2011 4:39:38 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Millions of babies are aborted throughout the world for no other reason than that they are female. China and India have a large disparity between the male and female population because so many people abort their female children.


47 posted on 12/10/2011 4:47:36 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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Thanks wagglebee. Sidebars:
48 posted on 12/11/2011 6:39:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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49 posted on 12/11/2011 6:40:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wagglebee
Hubby and I were out Christmas shopping (among the crowds) at an outdoor shopping center. A tranny walked passed us.

This poor guy was not attractive in women's clothing plus, he looked so ashamed of himself that I wondered if he lost a bet or something. this guy was clearly not happy being dressed up as a woman. I really think he would have had no problem if he'd gone out wearing "gender appropriate" clothing (see how PC I can be?)

50 posted on 12/11/2011 6:49:48 AM PST by CAluvdubya
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