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Statist Delusions [Mark Steyn]
National Review ^ | 12/10/2011 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/10/2011 9:57:01 AM PST by Servant of the Cross

Edited on 12/10/2011 11:14:05 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Statist Delusions
The bill for cradle-to-grave welfare has come due.


The president of the United States came to Osawatomie, Kan., last week to deliver a speech of such fascinating awfulness archeologists of the future sifting through the rubble of our civilization will surely doubt whether it could really have been delivered by the chief executive of the global superpower in the year 2011.

“This isn’t about class warfare,” declared President Obama. Really? As his fellow Democrat Dale Bumpers testified at the Clinton impeachment trial, “When you hear somebody say, ‘This is not about sex,’ it’s about sex.” The president understands that “Wall Street,” “banks,” “fat cats,” etc. remain the most inviting target and he figures that he can ride the twin steeds of Resentment and Envy to reelection and four more years of even bigger Big Government. His opponents, he told us, “want to return to the same practices that got us into this mess . . . . And their philosophy is simple: We are better off when everybody is left to fend for themselves and play by their own rules . . . . It doesn’t work. It has never worked.” He blamed our present fix on “this brand of ‘you’re on your own’ economics.”

This is a deliciously perverse analysis of the situation confronting America and a fin de civilisation West. In what area of life are Americans now “on their own”? By 2008, Fannie and Freddie had a piece of over half the mortgages in this country; the “subprime” mortgage was an invention of government. America’s collective trillion dollars of college debt has been ramped up by government distortion of the student-loan market. Likewise, health care, where Americans labor under the misapprehension that they have a “private” system rather than one whose inflationary pressures and byzantine bureaucracy are both driven largely by remorseless incremental government annexation.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: delusions; marksteyn; statist; steyn
Vintage Steyn.

This is a deliciously perverse analysis of the situation confronting America and a fin de civilisation West.

We are in a war over the "fin de civilisation West". And we need to go to war now with the army we got that can displace OccupyOvalOffice in 2012.

1 posted on 12/10/2011 9:57:07 AM PST by Servant of the Cross
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To: JLS

Steyn ping.


2 posted on 12/10/2011 10:05:07 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
"And we need to go to war now with the army we got"

So we attack the Germans with the Italian Army?

Your analogy is unfortunately only too accurate.

3 posted on 12/10/2011 10:14:43 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Servant of the Cross

Like the band playing on the deck of the Titanic. God help us.


4 posted on 12/10/2011 10:18:27 AM PST by redpoll
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To: Servant of the Cross

Can this man turn a phrase or what?

Steyn is incomparable!


5 posted on 12/10/2011 10:19:13 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Obama’s speech in Osawatomie was spoken in code to his occucommies and pro-occucommies, he is rallying them for a massive occucommie push next year. Even the place he chose for his very definitive speech, Osawatomie, is code to his
Bill Ayers, Weather Underground, types.

We’ve got a VERY violent next year ahead of us!


6 posted on 12/10/2011 10:25:50 AM PST by sasportas
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To: Servant of the Cross
Yes, excellent comments from Mr. Steyn.

1960s campus spoiled brats and their totally corrupted ideological offspring did this to America.


7 posted on 12/10/2011 11:03:11 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping Slings and Arrows.


8 posted on 12/10/2011 11:33:43 AM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: Servant of the Cross

“The bill for cradle-to-grave welfare has come due.”

Cradle-to-grave welfare. What pikers. We (Canada) already have womb-to-tomb welfare. We’re working on erection-to-reseruction welfare.


9 posted on 12/10/2011 11:57:35 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I think Steyn has gotten it only partly right on this one. The US has been moving to a sort of soft-welfare state since the time of the “Great Society,” but Obama and his crew - or actually, his leaders - have taken it to an entirely different level, and thinking of this as just the same-old same-old call for a little more welfare and a few more bennies is a big mistake.

Osawatomie was the name of the paper published by the Weathermen (or Weather Underground, by that time, I guess) in the 1970s. Its big focus was “anti-racism,” since the Marxists had latched onto the radical black power groups and presented violent, radical blacks as the “vanguard of the Revolution.”

Osawatomie, KS was also where John Brown and other abolitionists holed up and prepared for their attacks, and in fact Brown took the name Osawatomie and was known as Osawatomie Brown. The fact that they were fighting Democrats seems to have been lost on Obama.

However, the newspaper Osawatomie, with which Bill Ayers and his lovely wife Bernadine Dohrn were involved, felt that the usual leftists of the time (meaning hard-line Dems and unionists) were just too old fashioned and didn’t understand the need for violence and class warfare. This was a constant theme of the paper Osawatomie.

I think, for once, perhaps Steyn didn’t do enough research. This goes way beyond the welfare state. It was Obama’s call for class warfare and the purging of non-revolutionary influences, just as Bill Ayers no doubt told him to do. It was meant to be the beginning of the destruction of the US, and I think you’re going to see an increasing number of leftists taking up the call.


10 posted on 12/10/2011 12:14:04 PM PST by livius
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To: sasportas
"Obama’s speech in Osawatomie was spoken in code to his occucommies and pro-occucommies, he is rallying them for a massive occucommie push next year. Even the place he chose for his very definitive speech, Osawatomie, is code to his Bill Ayers, Weather Underground, types. We’ve got a VERY violent next year ahead of us!"

Yep!

"...Folks, I don't think any longer it is improper to use the word "communist" to describe Obama, communism to describe his objectives, nor is it wrong to use the word "communist" or "communism" to associate with the trade labor movement, be it the AFL-CIO or the mine workers or the SEIU. I mean they've made it clear, Obama came out of the closet. We called him out. We set the arena. Obama is now playing in our arena, not the Republican Party's arena..." ~ Rush Limbaugh, December 08, 2011

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President Obama's Osawatomie Speech was a Marxist Attack on America ~ Rush Limbaugh, December 07, 2011

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Will Newt also call Obama a Communist with a communism agenda?

11 posted on 12/10/2011 12:41:52 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
1960s campus spoiled brats and their totally corrupted ideological offspring did this to America.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Bill Ayers and his wife Bernette Dohrn were promoted and mentored to positions of power by people of my father's generation ( born 1913). These two were **known** and self-confessed terrorists.

The rot was in place long before the 1960s. Joe Mc Carthy was right!

12 posted on 12/10/2011 12:49:01 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Iron Munro
Can this man turn a phrase or what?
Steyn is incomparable!
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Steyn is one of the best.

However....His is completely wrong about Obama’s eligibility. Deliberately so I believe. As a result, I don't fully trust him.

13 posted on 12/10/2011 12:54:52 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: maica; Freee-dame
Classic Steyn!

"The political class looted the future to bribe the present, confident that tomorrow could be endlessly postponed. Hey, why not?"


14 posted on 12/10/2011 1:22:40 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Servant of the Cross
...whatever assurances the statists give, in the end you’ll be on your own.

The irony is that statists act in their own self-interest.

15 posted on 12/10/2011 1:27:10 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Servant of the Cross
I used to laugh so much when I read Steyn.

Now he makes me want to cry.

16 posted on 12/10/2011 1:39:05 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: livius
That is a great post. Thank you. You are right about Steyn needing to get "the rest of the story."

"Bring it all down, man."

I remembered the Kansas-Brown connection but not the significance of Osawatomie nor did I recall the significance of Osawatomie (and the newspaper) for the 1960s campus spoiled brats and their ideological issue, BHO.

Thanks again.

17 posted on 12/10/2011 1:54:02 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: wintertime
RE: "The rot was in place long before the 1960s. Joe Mc Carthy was right!"

You are right and it was in place even before the '50s.

However I believe that as I understand David Horowitz explain the emergence of the New Left it was never so radical and violent as the 1960s. When word of Khrushchev's 1956 revelations about the real Stalin reached America it turned many American Communists away from the CP/USA and many "red diaper babies" rejected all but the most revolutionary versions of Communism. Thus the New Left.

I recall both McCarthy and the 60s when the MSM gushed admiration for the demonstrators as the most intelligent generation ever.

This oft-posted cartoon shows the rot in the '30s.


18 posted on 12/10/2011 2:13:45 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Iron Munro

As a struggling copywriter, Steyn continually gives me inspiration to improve:

“In my most recent book, which makes an attractive and thoughtful Christmas gift for the apocalyptically minded loved one in your family, ...” HA!

“(Obama) figures that he can ride the twin steeds of Resentment and Envy to reelection and four more years of even bigger Big Government.”

Paint that mind-picture, white man!


19 posted on 12/10/2011 2:17:50 PM PST by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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To: wintertime

“However....His is completely wrong about Obama’s eligibility. Deliberately so I believe. As a result, I don’t fully trust him.”

Just what did Mark Steyn say about Obama’s eligibility that upset you so?

I have heard him say that he doesn’t want Obama removed on a technicality. He wants him defeated because his policies are bad.

That would be a greater victory. If he is removed because of ineligibility, he becomes a martyr to the left. If he is voted out by the American people, it is a victory in the hearts and minds of the American people. They have seen the light, and have rejected the fascist/socialist policies of the left.

Mark Steyn is right.


20 posted on 12/10/2011 4:19:23 PM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: passionfruit
Steyn is wrong about Article 2, Section 1, being a technicality.

Just ask the families who are mourning soldier brought home in caskets due to Obama’s insane rules of engagement. Ask them how they feel about a “technicality” in the Constitution.

One hundred percent loyalty to America, Americans, and our soldiers is what is essential in a Commander in Chief. Then we should ask if his foreign policies are supporting and upholding foreign political factions that are dedicated to killing our soldiers and Americans.

Geeze! Some technicality! ( eye roll). Steyn is wrong and, personally, I believe he knows it. For this reason he is not completely trustworthy. !

21 posted on 12/10/2011 4:48:41 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

So did he speak at Wossamatta U.?


22 posted on 12/10/2011 4:57:24 PM PST by Tony in Hawaii (NUTS!)
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To: passionfruit
One more question:

When did the Constitution become a “technicality”?

Steyn knows that Article 2, Section 1, is not a technicality. It **is** the Constitution! He knows this, too, and is deliberately misleading his listeners.

While he does good work, I will never again fully trust him.

23 posted on 12/10/2011 5:00:40 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: JLS

Just a quick Merry Christmas and thanks for maintaining our hero’s ping list! We do appreciate it. ;-)


24 posted on 12/10/2011 7:40:25 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Tunehead54

Thank you and Merry Christmas to you.


25 posted on 12/10/2011 7:42:32 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: Servant of the Cross
The president of the United States came to Osawatomie, Kan., last week to deliver a speech of such fascinating awfulness ...

He often delivers awful speeches that his many fans love. It's a conundrum but it may actually be that the worse his speeches, the more his hard core base loves him.

26 posted on 12/10/2011 11:12:55 PM PST by irv (Live Tea or die!)
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To: Travis McGee
You beat me to it. But here it is, again, so nobody can mistake the meaning:

The political class looted the future to bribe the present

And, for better or worse (I think both) the future is upon us, but not quite arrived. There still exists a surplus, meaning money to be looted, that empowers those who consider it their role to steal it to continue to promise it. There still exists a convenient set of scapegoats, a more or less believable party line, a perverse ability to pretend that things are other than they are. Frightened and resentful people vote their fears and resentments, and demagogues thrive in such a political mess because there's good money in it, if in nothing else. That is, incidentally, why they're the last to starve.

There are a number of reasons why a thing such as 0bama could be voted into office and most of them portend very poorly for the future of freedom in the United States. In most countries the watershed is when the armed forces decide to join the ruling class. In the U.S. it is academia and the media who have elected to do so. We still may have a fighting chance, but that's all it is, a fighting chance.

27 posted on 12/10/2011 11:33:21 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
Some kind of breakup or “virtual secession” will probably be our best case outcome. If we all have to average down all 50 states and 100s of cities to pander to the over-breeding parasite class, we'll be doomed to a USSR-type existence. To redistribute what is left equally among producers and parasites means the producers will go Galt and quit producing. What is left will increasingly resemble North Korea. I see a breakup before that takes place. Let some states become People's Republics, under one caveat: No fences to keep them in. Soon they'll be empty of producers, and the lesson will be inescapable.
28 posted on 12/11/2011 7:36:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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