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Tea Party Leaders: Rand Paul is Wrong on Newt Gingrich
US News and World Report ^ | 12/10/2011 | Mallie Jane Kim

Posted on 12/10/2011 10:11:49 AM PST by katiedidit1

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To: katiedidit1

So TEA Party leaders have given up on endorsing conservatives.


51 posted on 12/10/2011 11:02:19 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: bwc2221

I will crawl on glass to vote for this RINO if he gets it. He is certainly no conservative and neither is Romney. So, we get conned again. What else is new?


52 posted on 12/10/2011 11:03:51 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: katiedidit1

If newt is the best this country has, we are in one sorry mess.


53 posted on 12/10/2011 11:07:44 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: katiedidit1

You post it! You almost did last night. You had the links.It’s on ABC and the article you posted has the online streams.


54 posted on 12/10/2011 11:08:10 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: newzjunkey

“Newt’s certainly not unapologetically in support of the individual mandate and abandoned the concept”

You sure about that?

This is a recent interview which directly contradicts his campaign propaganda:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThwVp0cwOMA


55 posted on 12/10/2011 11:08:23 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless & Inhumane)
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To: katiedidit1

“they” rarely say who they are for? they just attack Newt incessantly....

Yes, that’s why I challenge them at every turn.


56 posted on 12/10/2011 11:10:19 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: mamelukesabre

>> However, I don’t take anything from you as fact. >>

Since all I did was recite some basic historical facts, I can only take your comment to mean that not only are you ignorant, but proudly so.

It’s one thing to be ignorant, it’s another to be willfully so and to brag about it.


57 posted on 12/10/2011 11:12:50 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: org.whodat

Have you read the papers? We are in one sorry mess.


58 posted on 12/10/2011 11:13:21 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: bwc2221
Newt is no conservative

He has a 90% lifetime ACU rating which ain't chopper live {it's not as good as Michelle Bachmann but it's better than sanctimonious, righteous Mr. Perfect Christian, Rick Santorum}.

59 posted on 12/10/2011 11:15:19 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: G Larry

>> Yes, that’s why I challenge them at every turn. >>

I would imagine you find it interesting that most Newt supporters - or those thinking about being one - readily admit his flaws and foibles.

Rarely have I ever seen a Newt detractor admit is plusses and accomplishments.

Hmmm. Which side is operating out of ignorance and denial and which side is operating out of a calculated decision on what our options really are?


60 posted on 12/10/2011 11:16:02 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: katiedidit1

Rand Paul is such an unbiased source here.


61 posted on 12/10/2011 11:18:23 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: USS Alaska

>> He has a 90% lifetime ACU rating which ain’t chopper live {it’s not as good as Michelle Bachmann but it’s better than sanctimonious, righteous Mr. Perfect Christian, Rick Santorum}. >>

I would add this too: among that 90% voting records are many issues where he spearheaded the entire effort to get some great things passed.

I don’t really like these “ratings” because they give no weight to various issues and no weight to how influential a person is or is not. Having said that, a 90% rating does fly in the face of those who say he’s no conservative.

Give me a 90 percenter who gets things done over a 96 per center who does not any day.


62 posted on 12/10/2011 11:18:59 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: mamelukesabre

when in a primary race, Republicans need to think along these lines:

When your guy can’t win?

GROW UP
SHUT UP
SIT DOWN
DEAL WITH IT


63 posted on 12/10/2011 11:22:03 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: katiedidit1

“...and concluded that Newt is the best man for America. I know all about Newt’s baggage and I also know his record as Speaker of the House. I am 100% behind Newt.”

bttt

Newt will win if he keeps this up:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2818684/posts?page=17#17


64 posted on 12/10/2011 11:23:11 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: G Larry

Words strangely absent with Cain.

Sorry, ain’t buying your Kool-aid.

Big government Newt ain’t worth electing unless we want to lose to Obama. Didn’t we just learn from McCain?


65 posted on 12/10/2011 11:24:02 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Give me a 90 percenter who gets things done over a 96 per center who does not any day.”

Why the hell do we want a president so he can ‘get stuff done’?


66 posted on 12/10/2011 11:26:32 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi

>> Why the hell do we want a president so he can ‘get stuff done’? >>

Are you being obtuse on purpose or legitimately asking a question. The point is this: give me someone who is reasonably conservative who will successfully advance the conservative agenda versus someone who is very conservative but has not demonstrated any ability to advance that agenda any day.

ADVANCING the conservative agenda is exactly what we do need to happen.


67 posted on 12/10/2011 11:29:12 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: katiedidit1

Ron Paul denounced the Tea Party early on. He claimed it was a tool of the GOP and said he didn’t trust it. Yet his son was elected by the Tea Party.... So confusing.


68 posted on 12/10/2011 11:29:36 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: verity

It’s all I know how to do in this situation........that, and keep teaching women to shoot for self defensive purposes.

I have this horrible sinking feeling that we are heading into some very scary times..


69 posted on 12/10/2011 11:30:38 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: USS Alaska

“He has a 90% lifetime ACU”

The ACU has been thoroughly discredited.

Their chairman is a Romney supporter.


70 posted on 12/10/2011 11:31:12 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless & Inhumane)
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To: BenKenobi

>> Big government Newt ain’t worth electing unless we want to lose to Obama. Didn’t we just learn from McCain? >>

That statement is so ignorant as to border on the assinine - something Cain would probably agree with.

Newt was the last Speaker to balance a budget. He was the last speaker to pass welfare shrinkage. He was the first minority leader in 40 years to successfully engineer a take over of congress. McCain would never try, let alone succeed, at any of that.

To compare those two is witheringly ignorant. And Cain would agree.


71 posted on 12/10/2011 11:32:40 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: katiedidit1

As long as Newt doesn´t walk back his recent comments about the supposed palestinians, I´m with him.


72 posted on 12/10/2011 11:33:25 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

>> The ACU has been thoroughly discredited. Their chairman is a Romney supporter. >>

I’m not a big fan of the ACU - but that is a ridiculous statement - but that’s not the point. Their scorecard is simply a mathematical computation of real votes. Reality can be computed as mathematical fact, even by an organization that has some Romney supporters in it.

Not everyone is driven by an obsession with candidates or people.


73 posted on 12/10/2011 11:35:14 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Matchett-PI

Newt and Bolton are right. I listened to the entire video address and like Newt I am a Bibi Netanyahu fan. I also liked Newt’s statement that Jeruselum not Tel Aviv should be the capital of Israel. Let’s bring this home Newt! Gingrich is saying what many American’s know and many politicians dare not say for fear of not being PC


74 posted on 12/10/2011 11:35:31 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: bwc2221

Please tell me if you think that the author of this vanity piece is a Kool-Aid drinker.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2818373/posts?page=1


75 posted on 12/10/2011 11:43:19 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: newzjunkey

One thing not being said here. Newt has not said this
either...he is now a convert to catholic religion...and
I am catholic, Xavier U., Cincy. Can his conversion be
a plus or minus....I think it would be an asset for his
many approaches to the complexities of government....so,
what say you????


76 posted on 12/10/2011 11:43:47 AM PST by sanjacjake
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To: katiedidit1

Once again, the Republican Party will fail to field a true conservative. We will face a dedicated, unrepentant Marxist seeking re-election. God help us all.


77 posted on 12/10/2011 11:47:15 AM PST by montag813
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To: mamelukesabre
mark levin also torches newt

UNTRUE. Levin has been tough on Newt, but has ALSO attackedf the mindless bashing of Gingrich, especially from Romney.

78 posted on 12/10/2011 11:50:12 AM PST by montag813
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To: ez

“We think for ourselves and I can tell you that the vast majority of people in our Tea Party will not vote for Gingrich or Romney or Paul.”

“You crack me up. In the very same sentence you claim that people think for themselves and then go right ahead and monolithically speak for them all just like Paul tried to.

You also claim the Tea Party has no leaders and them boldly proclaim yourself as “The Founder of the Mansfield North Central Ohio Tea Party Association” and speak for your whole organization. You brought a smile to my face :)”

I am not speaking for all of them. During our weekly meetings we take a poll of those present to see where the support is. I can tell you it isn’t with Romney Gingrich or Paul. Our members are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves.

Read what I wrote, please. “Founder” does not equate to “leader.” Our group has no leaders...just an events coordinator and a treasurer. This works well for us.


79 posted on 12/10/2011 11:50:43 AM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: katiedidit1

Puhleze, the self appointed Tea Party “leaders” do not speak for anyone but themselves. It’s obvious that those same self appointed “leaders” are foolishly buying into the meme that the only way to defeat 0bama is to be a smooth talking, flip flopping master debater. Principles and history be damned.

Good heavens, Newt has pushed the very thing that got the Tea Party into hyper drive, the Individual Mandate! Let’s not forget the other big gov’t policies of ethanol subsidies, cap and trade, and enriching himself with Fanny & Freddie while home owners got royally screwed.

I also don’t get how supposed strict small government, fiscal conservatives who are staunchly pro 2A can give this wannabe gun grabber the time of day much less the drooling support because he talks pretty.


80 posted on 12/10/2011 11:52:57 AM PST by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: katiedidit1

http://www.amazon.com/Nation-Like-No-Other-Exceptionalism/dp/1596982713

I’ve recommended Newt’s recent book several times on FR, maybe should do it more often! It’s “A Nation Like No Other: Why American Exceptionalism Matters.”


81 posted on 12/10/2011 11:55:27 AM PST by Lady Lucky ( Merry Christmas to all)
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To: BenKenobi

McCain is worse than an appeaser, he gives up before arriving at the negotiations.

Newt is a fighter and we need somebody willing to punch liberals in the mouth when necessary.

Than AIN”T Mitt!

So, who’s kool-aid ARE you drinking?


82 posted on 12/10/2011 11:55:33 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: Proud2BeRight

““Tea Party “LEADERS?” The Tea Party movement has NO LEADERS. We are autonomous.””

“EXACTLY! “We the People” are the Tea Party.

Some idiots even try to claim that nutcase Ron Paul is a Tea Party leader while he is neither Tea Party, conservative or GOP.”

I agree with your assessment of Paul.

I think he’s OK on the fed and fiscal matters, but he’s got his head up his butt when it comes to terrorism.


83 posted on 12/10/2011 11:59:40 AM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: katiedidit1

Ditto! bttt


84 posted on 12/10/2011 12:00:00 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: katiedidit1
Well at a minimum there needs to be fiscal conservatism and a road out of the deficit abiss.

I wish there could be the perfect conservative candidate that could do it all.

#1 Have a spotless past.
#2 Be conservative ENOUGH.
#3 Be elouquent and have a personality.
#4 Be politically savvy.
#5 That could use the position to rally America back to what it should be.

Hope we can do most of that, but it isn't easy and we have no perfect person.

85 posted on 12/10/2011 12:00:44 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

“I will crawl on glass to vote for this RINO if he gets it. He is certainly no conservative and neither is Romney. So, we get conned again. What else is new?”

Just keep telling the Plaid Pants wing of the GOP that. It encourages them to keep shoving career, establishment, “moderates” down our throats.

And things will never improve.


86 posted on 12/10/2011 12:07:04 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: katiedidit1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeRhTjvAkuQ

And here’s Newt at the Thanksgiving Family Forum. I know you’ve seen it, katie, but wanted to put it on thread in the slim hope that someone anti-newtonian will give it a fair hearing.


87 posted on 12/10/2011 12:07:09 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Merry Christmas to all)
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To: newzjunkey
No, of course you mean the "rumored" "post election" book on "climate change."

At this pace, Maple said, his new book with Gingrich would probably be out in 2013, after the presidential election.

Somehow I doubt you'll be man enough to admit you're wrong but it should be fun watching you squirm like an idiot when details are leaked just before the election.
88 posted on 12/10/2011 12:13:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

For starters. Thanks katiedidit1.


89 posted on 12/10/2011 12:16:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: katiedidit1
Who do you support?

What does that have to do with your fear of talking about Newties new climate change book?

New Newt Gingrich Global Warming Book to be Released in 2013

Schussel is right.

iming is everything. One day, Newt’s pimping you on global warming, the next day he’s saying he made a mistake, when behind the scenes he’s editing a book promoting his initial global warming BS. Not in the White House or even with the nomination yet, and already he’s selling us out.
90 posted on 12/10/2011 12:18:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: katiedidit1

Rand Paul is right and I’m glad he said it. Beats the establishment keeping silent on anything the least bit controversial. Just one more piece of factual info to put into the mix. Food for thought. Chew on it.


91 posted on 12/10/2011 12:24:43 PM PST by maxter
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"Well, I think Rand Paul is right, and I question the legitimacy of these self-appointed tea party leaders to be dictating who is or is not worthy of tea party support."

According to some polls, Romney gets little or no Tea Party support, and "Mr. Tea Party", Ron Paul gets even less.

Tea Party copnservatives can think for themselves.

They need neither a self-appointed Tea Party candidate nor a US Senator to tell them whom to support.

I question the legitimacy of the Pauls to expect automatic support.

92 posted on 12/10/2011 12:26:17 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: org.whodat
If newt is the best this country has, we are in one sorry mess.

My sentiments exactly. I will support Newt in the general, but I wish a Conservative could come to the front.

Newt is a Statist at heart. The people supporting Newt should at least acknowledge that Newt will have to be pushed hard to stay conservative. Newt's big Statist ideas match his big ego.

My biggest peeve about Newt is that he is very, very determined to push the AGW agenda. It is obvious from all his recent interviews. Newt has NEVER EVER stated that man-made global warming "could" be pushed as a fraud. No, he is still hot for believing that "carbon loading" is a serious issue -- to that I say NUTS!

I will vote for Newt but will have no illusions that he will slash government. He will only try to make it "smarter", that is bigger.

93 posted on 12/10/2011 12:31:11 PM PST by sand88
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To: bimboeruption
"The current crop of candidates makes me weep for the future of my country."

Go out and find one, recruit one and support one.

94 posted on 12/10/2011 12:32:52 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: montag813
UNTRUE. Levin has been tough on Newt, but has ALSO attackedf the mindless bashing of Gingrich, especially from Romney.

You are correct. Mark Levin Denounces Smear Attacks On Newt Gingrich

95 posted on 12/10/2011 12:33:26 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

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Newt was the last Speaker to balance a budget.
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One, the budget was NEVER balanced. Debt went up year after year.

Not by his own decisions either, you say it like the Speaker is the dictator of the House. Boner can say the same, because there hasn’t been an Obama budget passed under his watch but then you’d not want Boner in charge. We the people sent the Republicans to the House to clean up the mess. We got Clinton redux, and the terrible economy over the last 10 years as a result of decisions.

Newt could have stopped so many bad things that did happen that continue to screw us over, but they either flew under the radar or he reached around the aisle.

[quote]
He was the first minority leader in 40 years to successfully engineer a take over of congress.
[/quote]

Boner did the same. We should make Boner president.

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McCain would never try, let alone succeed, at any of that.
[/quote]

You’re right. McCain was fond of reaching around the aisle. McCain was 100 percent prolife, stayed married to his wife, served in the army, was a war hero, survived captivity in Vietnam, etc.

Newt screwed around on two wives, stayed home.

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To compare those two is witheringly ignorant. And Cain would agree.
[/quote]

Absolutely. Newt just doesn’t have it. Newt vs McCain is very much in McCain’s favor.


96 posted on 12/10/2011 12:35:43 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: sand88
Owes his sole to the company store. Wall street still wants a bogus carbon credits market. All hogwash, but that is what they want and newt will give it to them, he will call it something else. He had sold out on this issue when he got on the couch with Nancy.
97 posted on 12/10/2011 12:37:15 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Are you having fun yet?


98 posted on 12/10/2011 12:38:31 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Are you being obtuse on purpose or legitimately asking a question. The point is this: give me someone who is reasonably conservative who will successfully advance the conservative agenda”

The conservative agenda, so I thought was to be the party of HELL NO. Tell me what the conservative agenda should be that the president needs to advance.

“ADVANCING the conservative agenda is exactly what we do need to happen.”

Right, which is why we need Big Government Newt. The conservative agenda, is the same as always. Cut spending. Cut government. Do things by doing NOTHING and saying NO, and HELL NO, as much as possible.


99 posted on 12/10/2011 12:38:39 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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100 posted on 12/10/2011 12:39:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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