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Hundreds gather downtown to rally against cuts to government programs (Cleveland)
Newsnet 5 ^ | 12/10/11 | Scott Newell

Posted on 12/10/2011 6:49:49 PM PST by Libloather

Hundreds gather downtown to rally against cuts to government programs
By: Scott Newell, newsnet5.com
Last Updated: 1 hour and 25 minutes ago

CLEVELAND - A couple hundred protesters, worried about looming cuts to social programs, loudly raised their voices in Cleveland today, shouting, "No cuts now, no cuts ever."

They are worried about cuts to some programs that have become staples for Americans: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

"This is a promise that our government has made to the American people, said protester Wynne Antonio. “They worked in good faith all their lives and paid in to these systems and they deserve to keep them in place."

On a clear but chilly day downtown, they gathered at 11:30am first in Public Square against a backdrop of holiday decorations. The protestors came from labor unions, church groups and health care organizations.

They say a lot of people depend on the programs that could face cuts.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: cleveland; collapse; cuts; economy; gimeemo; gimme; gimmegimmegimme; government; hoardes; markets; momomo; occupywallstreet; ohio; rally; thenvoterepublican
"No cuts now, no cuts ever."

Ever? Tough to do when there isn't any money. And they stood out in the cold for this?

1 posted on 12/10/2011 6:49:59 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

A mob of takers.


2 posted on 12/10/2011 6:52:03 PM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Libloather
The lesson learned should be: See what happens when you trust in the Government!
3 posted on 12/10/2011 6:52:54 PM PST by NYTexan
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To: Libloather
The lesson learned should be: See what happens when you trust in the Government!
4 posted on 12/10/2011 6:53:05 PM PST by NYTexan
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To: Libloather
Oh....this is just the beginning.

Next is riots and Molotov Cocktails

5 posted on 12/10/2011 6:54:41 PM PST by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: NYTexan

“No cuts ever”?????? What are you...stupid or something? When there is NO money there will be cuts. Hear it clearly...C U T S.


6 posted on 12/10/2011 6:56:24 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Libloather

labor unions, church groups and health care organizations.

So vested interests in the Welfare State via transfer payments or W-2s.

How objective.


7 posted on 12/10/2011 7:03:13 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (There's nothing more hypocritical than a white liberal calling someone else a "bigot")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Libloather.
They are worried about cuts to some programs that have become staples for Americans: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
IOW, this is an astroturf group of Demwits -- the only threats to Medicare come from Obamacare. The only threat to Social Security is to keep going the way it's going. And Medicaid isn't something for people "who have worked all their lives."


8 posted on 12/10/2011 7:07:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Libloather

I remember when NO MAN would dare take government welfare. It meant they were not able to care for their own.

Even my grandpa refused welfare from the government back in the 1930s. My mom said some of the welfare people lived better than mom’s family did.


9 posted on 12/10/2011 7:08:53 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: LMAO

“Next is riots and Molotov Cocktails”

Sez who? Maybe in some sh*thole liberal neighborhood, but not mine. And I don’t care if they burn down Baltimore, Boston or Detroit. Go start your own country, you left-wing fat welfare mommas and scum-sucking lazy bastards collecting unemployment for 99 weeks. I don’t care about you. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.


10 posted on 12/10/2011 7:11:08 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Libloather
A $14 Trillion deficit...

40% of every Federal dollar spent is borrowed...

We are Greece...

11 posted on 12/10/2011 7:11:45 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Libloather

I once thought that cuts would be sufficient to rectify these problems and attitudes. But now? No, the way I think it is going to go is that it will all just end... That’s right, no more assistance to the needy, no more government checks to Government employees. No free cheese and I think it won’t just be the U.S. I think it is going to be pretty much world wide.

And what then? The barbarians won’t be at the gates, they are right here amongst us. Tough times are coming into view now, Hmph... Maybe the Maya were right after all and 2012 is the end of civilization.

I just don’t know but I feel that times of Tribulation are nigh.


12 posted on 12/10/2011 7:11:53 PM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: Libloather

The guy who is under-funding Social Security is Obamao.
The guy who cut $500Bil from Medicare is Obamao.
So, is this a protest against Obamao? No? Then the protesters are just uninformed (at best) or hypocrites.


13 posted on 12/10/2011 7:16:25 PM PST by BMCinSC
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To: sergeantdave

Love the way you think, FRiend. Keep it up as I have been noticing a lot of limp-wristed, pc Freepers lately..


14 posted on 12/10/2011 7:18:51 PM PST by max americana (Obama is a POS)
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To: BMCinSC
“We’ve got to educate the American people at the same time we educate the President of the United States. The Republicans, Speaker Boehner or Majority Leader Cantor did not call for Social Security cuts in the budget deal. The President of the United States called for that,

-John Conyers July 27th 2011

Conyers on Jobs: “We’ve Had It.” Lays Out Obama, Calls for Protest at White House
15 posted on 12/10/2011 7:19:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Libloather

“The Intelligencer has analyzed the public employee pension systems in Ohio. “From Dayton to Columbus to St. Clairsville, every Ohio resident owes an average of $5,720.97 to pay off public employee pension debt.” “The majority of Ohio’s $66 billion in unfunded pension liability lies within the public education system, as the State Teachers Retirement System has about $39 billion in unfunded liabilities.” CONT: Last year, Ohio’s eight largest newspapers joined forces to analyze the state’s pension debt, particularly that of the teacher’s retirement system. In addition to the $39 billion in overall unfunded liability, the Akron Beacon-Journal found that one of the largest problems with STRS is a rule that allows teachers and administrators to retire and receive a full pension, but then return to work to continue receiving their salaries.

For example, if a school superintendent retires at age 52 while earning $100,000 per year, he or she can receive about $64,000 in retirement during the first year drawing the pension. If he or she is then rehired for that same position, and continues to receive regular 3 percent pay raises, the superintendent could retire at age 65 with a $1.6 million pension package.

http://www.theintelligencer.net/page/content.detail/id/553673.html


16 posted on 12/10/2011 7:20:54 PM PST by anglian
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To: Libloather
What an ugly scene. Rioters demanding handouts.

That is about as un-American as you can get.

17 posted on 12/10/2011 7:25:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Libloather
Now where is the story about the woman with all those kids. And a convict for a father demanding that you tax payers take some accountability and give her more money. http://evilofindifference.wordpress.com/2011/12/01/woman-with-15-kids-demands-somebody-needs-to-pay-somebody-needs-to-be-held-accountable/
18 posted on 12/10/2011 7:28:50 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: org.whodat
I remember when Cleveland was one of those broad shouldered American cities that turned out excellent products, salable around the world.
What happened to these folk ?
19 posted on 12/10/2011 7:45:52 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: anglian

“... the superintendent could retire at age 65 with a $1.6 million pension package.”

Well, well, well...
look who is the 1%.


20 posted on 12/10/2011 7:50:17 PM PST by Zuse
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Rust belt! Cleveland is fast becoming another Detroit, 10,000 +++ empty homes, just sitting there owners moved away.
21 posted on 12/10/2011 8:00:16 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: Libloather
A pigeon protest.
22 posted on 12/10/2011 8:13:05 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Libloather

Sorry but we are out of OPM.So that means the freebies have to stop.


23 posted on 12/10/2011 8:16:28 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: sergeantdave

AMEN! I care for mine and sorry about all of yours.If one is too lazy to get up off of the couch to feed your own kids it is not my problem.


24 posted on 12/10/2011 8:18:32 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Libloather

Buy ammo.


25 posted on 12/10/2011 8:23:03 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (This Message Contains Privileged Attorney-Client Communications)
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To: The Working Man

I believe you are right and I feel the same way.It is like we in the western world have lived a fantasy most part of the 20th century about how everyone can be helped and cared for and now the piper has come for payment.It is going to be bad especially for those who know nothing about caring for themselves.It will be very mad max out there.


26 posted on 12/10/2011 8:24:54 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
"I remember when NO MAN would dare take government welfare. It meant they were not able to care for their own. "

I remember those people too.

27 posted on 12/10/2011 8:32:31 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

My grandpa Evans and his brothers from West Virginny. Make lives out of nothing and worked themselves to middle class and still loved Jesus. We are a weak lot anymore. Something is afoot, and it isn’t good.


28 posted on 12/10/2011 9:01:42 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Also prepare to blend.. People are loosing everything right now. No one would notice if the BMW went away and was replaced with a older ford... Same with clothing, electronics, etc.

Hide the riches..

They will take everything if they can find it. Just look at OWS..


29 posted on 12/10/2011 9:26:49 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

The only encouragement I can give is that Dennis Kucinich is on his way out. His district has been redrawn and he’s been forced into a primary with popular Toledo liberal Marcy Kaptur. If he manages to win the primary, he will face...Joe the Plumber in the general election. What could be more fun than that?


30 posted on 12/10/2011 10:14:42 PM PST by Paul Kib (http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/)
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To: cableguymn

The only encouragement I can give is that Dennis Kucinich is on his way out. His district has been redrawn and he’s been forced into a primary with popular Toledo liberal Marcy Kaptur. If he manages to win the primary, he will face...Joe the Plumber in the general election. What could be more fun than that?


31 posted on 12/10/2011 10:15:06 PM PST by Paul Kib (http://boldcolor.blogspot.com/)
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To: Libloather
They are worried about cuts to some programs that have become staples for Americans: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

LMAO!!!
I wonder if Newell kept a straight face when he wrote this lying garbage?

32 posted on 12/10/2011 10:19:59 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: LMAO
Next is riots and Molotov Cocktails

That'll make for some good reality TV!

I will be relaxing in my family room, way out in the countryside in my house in the woods, watching concentrated Democrat parasite nests ("cities") from coast to coast burn to the ground on my TV. I'm already looking forward to it.

/gleeful hand-wringing and mischievous chuckling

33 posted on 12/10/2011 10:28:56 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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WHAT CUTS? No handout program has been cut. And there are more people on food stamps than ever. And the Social Security Disability program is at all time highs, with Puerto Rico—surprise, surprise—a strong first place winner.
34 posted on 12/10/2011 10:30:08 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: Libloather

Two things: A couple hundred protesters - in Cleveland, that leftist shithole. I say lets take off from this planet and nuke them from space.

Jerry Gordon? How old? There is an old communist named Jerry Gordon who operated out of Cleveland in the 60’s-70’s connected to CAPAC, a trotskyite communist (SWP/YSA) front. He was a National Mobe and New Mobe then NPAC leader for the reds on Vietnam. Later became an organizer for the then communist controlled United Food & Commercial Workers Union.

The guy would be in his mid-late 70’s by now as he was a member of the Communist Party’s youth arm, the Labor Youth League, in the 1950’s.

If anyone can find out who this guy is, please email me at thru the FR “Reply” to post system.

Thanks.


35 posted on 12/11/2011 1:17:14 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Libloather; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

Ohio Ping!

To be added to the Ohio Ping List, please freepmail (works best),
both LasVegasDave and Flutters.

36 posted on 12/11/2011 1:33:38 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Libloather

This being Ohio I’m doubting the rally had anything to do with Social Security etal. I’d bet this would be in support of the government unions. Many of their members are starting to get their layoff notices from the county and city.


37 posted on 12/11/2011 3:46:42 AM PST by Recon Dad (Autodidact in Gas & Petroleum)
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To: Libloather

Parasite Nation shows its greed. They need handouts rather then provide for themselves.

America is lost.


38 posted on 12/11/2011 5:30:22 AM PST by Evergolightly (Ones conclusions are founded in the path traveled.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Don't let anybody bull shit you. The welfare people live hogh on the hog. They get free money, free housing, free medical care when they need it. By "free" meaning that they do not have to earn it. All they have to do is lay around fornicate do dope and have one baby after the other.The only thing they have to pay for is their drugs. They get their drug money by selling or trading their food stamps, prostitution, or stealing.

And they ensure themselves a steady supply of these freebies by voting Democrat.

39 posted on 12/11/2011 5:51:35 AM PST by sport
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To: chris_bdba

Most of those who know nothing about taking care of themselves voted to inflict obama on me and I hope that they die a slow agonizing death. Because they murdered the United States of America.


40 posted on 12/11/2011 5:58:26 AM PST by sport
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To: Libloather

41 posted on 12/11/2011 6:08:07 AM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: Libloather
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42 posted on 12/11/2011 6:25:29 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Paul Kib

On CSpan, Kaptur called for ‘State controlled capitalism’ (corporatism).


43 posted on 12/11/2011 1:25:47 PM PST by griswold3 (Character is Destiny)
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To: The Working Man
Everyone will be going cold turkey. And if you think that withdrawal for the most hardened drug addicts is bad, just wait and see what will be with the welfare addicts. They have no skills to really write about, their work ethic is shot or non existent, and they suck off the bottle for their daily meager subsistence. What could possible go wrong????
44 posted on 12/11/2011 3:09:04 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: sergeantdave

Except we already have *one* Mexico...


45 posted on 12/11/2011 3:23:33 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: DarkWaters

What could possible go wrong????


I believe we are going to have to treat this just like a major epidemic. The quickest and sometimes most humane way is a quarantine of the infected and infected areas. And let it all burn out.

As you said... “What could possible go wrong????”


46 posted on 12/11/2011 3:42:42 PM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: KantianBurke

They forgot the line for the debt payments which will surpass all other payments.


47 posted on 12/11/2011 5:42:11 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: The Working Man
Quarantine for the most part would most likely work, there would be exceptions. The only problem is the people who are now in charge. They want this to spiral out of control as that gives them opportunity to seize power. They want a hard line dictatorship. They cannot stand the average person being free.
48 posted on 12/11/2011 6:51:09 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: DarkWaters

A few years ago I would have argued with you. Today? Yes, I agree with you. I’ve learned over the years that it’s not the rhetoric that counts it’s the actions.

One of the most blatant set of actions is how the Homeland Security department looks at Americans. Just watch their actions it’s American citizens who seem to be the enemy and Illegal Immigrants, Islamics of any stripe who are just misunderstood and need to have extra-ordinary care given to.

I could go on but I won’t.


49 posted on 12/12/2011 3:22:57 AM PST by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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