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At Republican debate, Newt Gingrich rolls on with steady performance
politico ^ | December 11, 2011 | JONATHAN MARTIN

Posted on 12/11/2011 4:31:00 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

In a campaign that has been chiefly shaped by debates, Newt Gingrich demonstrated Saturday night why he tops the polls — and why he won’t easily be dethroned.

Facing tough questions from his Republican rivals and debate moderators in Des Moines, Gingrich parried blow after blow without losing his cool or showing the much-discussed undisciplined side of his personality.

It was the former House speaker’s first debate as the undisputed frontrunner and not only did he stand up to the fresh scrutiny, he reminded Republican primary voters of his command of the issues, his intellectual dexterity and his self-assured, forceful arguments.

When Mitt Romney scolded Gingrich for his provocative claim that Palestinians are an “invented” people, the former Georgia congressman concisely captured why his brand of bombast is playing so well with a roiling GOP electorate.

“I think sometimes it is helpful to have a president of the United States with the courage to tell the truth, just as was Ronald Reagan who went around his entire national security apparatus to call the Soviet Union an ‘evil empire’ and who overruled his entire State Department in order to say, ‘Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall,’’ said Gingrich, calling himself a “Reaganite” and then adding a memorable kicker: “ I will tell the truth, even if it’s at the risk of causing some confusion sometimes with the timid.”

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1 posted on 12/11/2011 4:31:02 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

More dribble from Jonathan Martin.


2 posted on 12/11/2011 4:41:09 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Newt could have added “ and as Reagan was scoffed and called a cowboy when he put Pershing missles into Germany..and told that by ratcheting up tensions he would put freedom for the millons of Germans under Communist rule back 30 years”


3 posted on 12/11/2011 4:53:02 AM PST by RonnG
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Ah - the Politco pretzel publication.

Weaving and whacking - when will it end?


4 posted on 12/11/2011 4:53:53 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich - flying solo - without congressional baggage!!!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The media elites will be in a hysteria today. Both sides of the “Inside the Beltway” mob are scared to death of Newt and their loss of influence over us mere “unwashed”.


5 posted on 12/11/2011 4:56:10 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Who else on that stage would have the cojones to say what Gingrich says about Obama and the Palestinians?

This is why Gingrich leads....he will take the fight to the liberals, just like he did in 1994.


6 posted on 12/11/2011 5:03:36 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Who else on that stage would have the cojones to say what Gingrich says about Obama and the Palestinians?

This is why Gingrich leads....he will take the fight to the liberals, just like he did in 1994.


7 posted on 12/11/2011 5:03:43 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Berlin_Freeper
“ I will tell the truth, even if it’s at the risk of causing some confusion sometimes with the timid.”

Money line. I'd love for him to get the opportunity to say one of my favorites, "I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person."

8 posted on 12/11/2011 5:09:12 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Martin is Romney's pimp and hachetman.

THE REAL DEAL:

“Former President of National Restaurant Association has Ties to the Mitt Romney Campaign
Steven C. Anderson … took over the helm as Chief Executive Officer at the National Restaurant Association
Herman Cain's departure in 1999”

Whenever Team Romney had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates,
Jonathan Martin has been their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience.

“And The Most Irresponsible Journalist Award Goes to The Politico’s Jonathan Martin!
So tell me, how do you write a “news” story about an organization paying for a speaker when you don’t even know if the organization is paying for the speaker?
Ask “journalist” Jonathan Martin. He knows all about it.
You see, Jonny wrote a piss poor story the other day about how the Iowa Family Policy Center will be paying a large speaker fee if Sarah Palin comes to Iowa to keynote the IFPC’s fall funderaiser.
The only problem is that Jonny has no sources confirming that any exorbitant fee is being charged or paid.
Jonny also got some inside info from David Kochel, who was a top aide to former (and future) presidential candidate, Mitt Romney.
Hey Dave, didn’t I just read a story about how Mitt Romney tried to buy off the Iowa Christian Alliance?
I heard you helped facilitate that little scheme. And somehow you are shocked at the thought of a well-known political figure (who very likely isn’t running for president) getting paid a speaker’s fee for (gasp) a public speaking appearance? ..
and then we’ve got Tim Albrecht quoted. He was the Iowa spokesman for Romney’s 2008 caucus campaign.”
And it always seemed like, whenever the Romney people had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates,
Jonny was their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience.


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



9 posted on 12/11/2011 5:14:24 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Redleg Duke

I’m just waiting for Obama to comment....about how we should love our neighbor...


10 posted on 12/11/2011 5:16:02 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Erik Latranyi

Newt won...10,000 to one


11 posted on 12/11/2011 5:16:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Frankly I thought they all did well, except for Romney (that $10K “bet” was unseemly). So much for Mitt’s storied “coolness under pressure,” eh?


12 posted on 12/11/2011 5:18:45 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It seems a bit empty without Cain in the mix.


13 posted on 12/11/2011 5:20:26 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

i agree that Gingrich was right on the Palestinians being invented as a people, but i also agree with Romney that that was incendiary.


14 posted on 12/11/2011 5:27:01 AM PST by avital2
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To: Diogenesis

Isn’t it interesting that we have heard nothing about any of the Cain women in the media since Herman suspended his campaign. Political? You betcha!


15 posted on 12/11/2011 5:28:26 AM PST by OrioleFan
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To: ScottinVA

i agree with you - but i am curious: who was right on that line from the book? i think that is more important than the $10,000 bet line.........


16 posted on 12/11/2011 5:28:36 AM PST by avital2
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To: Berlin_Freeper
“ I will tell the truth, even if it’s at the risk of causing some confusion sometimes with the timid.”

It was not the best line of the night, but a real keeper and it grated on the media's nerves.

Mittens even admitted {in his round about, timid way} that Newt was correct in saying the the palis were invented, but "it's just not nice", not done in front of the pali wymen and chilrun because they may blow themselves up.

17 posted on 12/11/2011 5:35:50 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: avital2
i agree that Gingrich was right on the Palestinians being invented as a people, but i also agree with Romney that that was incendiary.

To paraphrase Rush, how can something be incendiary to a people who are already on fire?

18 posted on 12/11/2011 5:37:57 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Erik Latranyi

AMEN!!!


19 posted on 12/11/2011 5:39:12 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: avital2
...but i also agree with Romney that that was incendiary.

Yeah, real incendiary......now they might fly planes full of people into building full of people.....oh, nevermind.

20 posted on 12/11/2011 5:43:47 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi
Who else on that stage would have the cojones to say what Gingrich says about Obama and the Palestinians? This is why Gingrich leads....he will take the fight to the liberals, just like he did in 1994.

Yes he will, and he's the first GOPer to actually seek a dogfight with the libs in a long, long time. They're not used to getting pushback.

21 posted on 12/11/2011 5:44:47 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: ScottinVA
It seems a bit empty without Cain in the mix.

Bachmann was channeling him all night.

After all of her previous attacks, suddenly she just luuuuuves her some Herman!

22 posted on 12/11/2011 5:47:36 AM PST by PalmettoMason ("The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.")
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To: Erik Latranyi
Yeah, real incendiary......now they might fly planes full of people into building full of people.....oh, nevermind.

You beat me to it.

23 posted on 12/11/2011 5:49:03 AM PST by PalmettoMason ("The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.")
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To: avital2

How does throwing a match into a burning building make it incendiary?


24 posted on 12/11/2011 5:49:55 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“One thousand countries”, and abc kept Michele off camera as much as they could, but she scored high regardless of their bias in my opinion.


25 posted on 12/11/2011 5:51:57 AM PST by chainsaw (Sarah Palin would be my first choice. .)
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To: ScottinVA

Just as the Washington insiders know what’s in Newt’s closet, Newt knows what’s in theirs. We saw how quickly Pelosi backed down a couple of weeks ago. I’m starting to enjoy this.


26 posted on 12/11/2011 5:54:02 AM PST by ryderann
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To: Berlin_Freeper

From what I saw (missed the last half hour), Newt did admirably. Even his handling of the character question aimed at him. Romney looked weak at times, don’t think he has the cajones for a Chicago style election. Newt on the other hand will give as good as he gets to theO and his minions. I took one more step toward Newt last night. The debate and JimRob’s assessment have reawakened a liking for Newt.


27 posted on 12/11/2011 5:54:21 AM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: avital2

“but i also agree with Romney that that was incendiary”

Newt isn’t president. He holds no office. As a free citizen, he can say whatever he wants to. The truth trumps PC every time. FPC.


28 posted on 12/11/2011 5:57:45 AM PST by faucetman
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To: Berlin_Freeper
We've been waiting a long tome for a conservative with some cajones...now we have one.

We can either back Newt or go back to being wimps!

29 posted on 12/11/2011 6:00:25 AM PST by capt. norm (Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never run out of material. c)
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To: PalmettoMason
Bachmann has become an embarrassment. She has gone 100% political. She mentions Cain, Co-opts 999 into win, win, win, because she so respects him? NO, she is trying to grab his supporters. Attack Newt, praise saint Herman, just a political ploy to try and grab back some of his supporters from Newt. Shameless.
30 posted on 12/11/2011 6:03:43 AM PST by faucetman
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To: avital2
"i agree that Gingrich was right on the Palestinians being invented as a people, but i also agree with Romney that that was incendiary."

There is not, and never has been a nation called Palestine. Israel has existed for thousands of years. Muslim radicals want to create a new country called "Palestine". on exactly the same land as Israel, destroying Israel in the process. Why is it "incendiary" to state this?

31 posted on 12/11/2011 6:14:34 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: savedbygrace

Lord, help us now convince ourselves that Newt is a true Conservative.


32 posted on 12/11/2011 6:15:30 AM PST by asa asa
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To: faucetman

I give Michelle credit for FINALLY attacking Mittens in a debate. Perhaps her minions have been trolling here at FreeRepublic and noticed the growing trend of conservatives suspecting her as a minion to Romney and wondering if that’s why she’s stuck in the 5% rut.

I don’t know if it’ll help her, but at least she did the right thing in hammering on Newt.


33 posted on 12/11/2011 6:18:23 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Mittt Romney - he lacks the courage of his absence of convictions .)
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To: avital2

“i agree that Gingrich was right on the Palestinians being invented as a people, but i also agree with Romney that that was incendiary.”

Its impossible to be incendiary with people who never stopped lobbing rockets and committing acts of terror worldwide.

Romney promised us that if elected President he would never make a move without calling somebody for permission first. Not a great quality in the Leader of Free World.


34 posted on 12/11/2011 6:22:56 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Having lived in "Palestine" I believe that Newt was correct, even if the argument could have been made a bit clearer. There have, of course, been inhabitants of the Palestinian territories, "Judea and Samaria" - or whatever you choose to call it - for many centuries. However, they lived in small, impoverished villages in a backwater of the Ottoman Empire and earlier overlords, going back to the Roman Empire.

However, many "Palestinians" migrated into the area during the past century after the Jewish settlement of the land presented economic opportunities. Most of the families of our Arab friends originally came from places like Egypt and Syria.

In any case, Newt is correct that there has never been a sovereign, independent country named "Palestine." The Romans called the land after the ancient Philistines, but even then it was part of the Roman province of Syria. After the Romans came the Byzantines and various Arab Caliphates, none of which accorded the land an independent status as a sovereign state.

35 posted on 12/11/2011 6:49:31 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Pretty accurate article. Gingrich is just too strong a force to be reckoned with. It's almost unfair watching him on stage. Every time the other candidates jabbed him with their knives, he'd retaliate with a gun. Obama is going to have his hands full as he tries to win the people over with rhetoric while Newt argues with historical context and substance.

This was in the Politico comments section. Gives a good summary of why the Dems prefer going against Mitt.

36 posted on 12/11/2011 6:51:26 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Pretty accurate article. Gingrich is just too strong a force to be reckoned with. It's almost unfair watching him on stage. Every time the other candidates jabbed him with their knives, he'd retaliate with a gun. Obama is going to have his hands full as he tries to win the people over with rhetoric while Newt argues with historical context and substance.

This was in the Politico comments section. Gives a good summary of why the Dems prefer going against Mitt.

37 posted on 12/11/2011 6:51:41 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: Solson
How does throwing a match into a burning building make it incendiary?

lol...it's just that the sissies don't want to p!ss off the pyromaniacs.

And Romney and Steffi are both sissies.

38 posted on 12/11/2011 6:57:23 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The author is bonkers, IMO.

I kept a +/- talley during the debate and Newt came in fourth, behind Perry, Bachmann and Paul.

I graded on whether the candidate responded to the questions and the good and bad comments in the responses.

Santorem was 5th and Romney was last. Mitt is now publically showing his sleaziness and tendancy to be a snake oil salesman like Huckabee.


39 posted on 12/11/2011 7:02:10 AM PST by octex
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To: norwaypinesavage

believe me, i know the history. i’m Jewish and a Zionist. however, i do believe this makes Bibi’s job harder by riling the P’s up. after 63 years, i’d like a solution, even if it is detente.


40 posted on 12/11/2011 7:09:29 AM PST by avital2
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To: ryderann

Yep.. they`re learning quickly Newt bites back, and they`re well-advised to tread carefully. For Pelosi to back down.. putting that witch in her place isn`t easy and doesn`t happen often... a feat in itself. And I`m enjoying it too.


41 posted on 12/11/2011 7:14:30 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: avital2

So are you saying that when Prez Reagan said “Tear down this wall!”, he was incendiary? Should he not have allowed the countries involved to speak for themselves?

I call BULL. I want a president who has values and speaks them. Newt spoke truth and stood by it. Romney looked weak and lacked leadership when he whined on and on that he would let Bebe handle this. Are we friends of Israel or not?


42 posted on 12/11/2011 7:18:19 AM PST by tioga ( Holder lost the guns, Corzine lost the money, Obama lost the jobs....a dem trifecta.)
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To: tjd1454
Newt is also very right from a practical standpoint. We've sort of accepted the "Palestinian" moniker for decades now, figuring that being nice and reasonable will induce the Palestinians to be the same. In case anyone hasn't noticed, that has not worked

Newt's posture essentially amounts to resetting the negotiations, challenging the very premise of a "Palestinian" state, and asking why isn't the Arab state of Jordan a proper "state" for the Arab people who used to live in the region referred to as Palestine.

If you start negotiations from that position, there is a possibility of a compromise solution. But if you give all that up before you start, they're going to want more.

Also, as a practical matter, a major tactic of the Palestinians is to separate the U.S. from Israel. By taking an aggressive posture, we actually make it easier for Israel. Rather than us being the big brother who may or may not support the younger one, we become the big brother who has to be held back. We are put into the Reagan role in the 1980 hostage crisis, with Iran wanting to cut a deal with Carter because they were scared of what Reagan might do as President. Maybe the Palestinians being worried about a more aggressive U.S. will induce a more coniliatory attitude on their part.

It certainly couldn't hurt.

43 posted on 12/11/2011 7:22:39 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Newt is a gunslinger and is the only one that I believe can Take on the Obama Machine.

Mr Teleprompter doesn’t stand a chance against Newt in a debate.

It will be a glorious showdown.

Would Newt take on Perry as a VP????


44 posted on 12/11/2011 7:25:47 AM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I was not impressed with either Newt or Perry.

The winner - Santorum

Even though most of us oppose amnesty, Newt is determined to push it down our throats. The biggest danger to this country comes not for Iraq, Afghanistan, or even Iran, but from within. Hordes of undesirables are sneaking into this counry. Outrageous that Newt wants amnesty for them. He is a smart man and clearly recognized the lasting harm this will do.

Newt is saying, "Hey, if you have gotten away with violating our laws for more than 25 years, you should be rewarded."

45 posted on 12/11/2011 7:34:04 AM PST by Dante3
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To: savedbygrace

So...... does anyone that watched Newt dominate this debate STILL think he is this election’s John McCain?


46 posted on 12/11/2011 8:16:39 AM PST by jageorge72 (http://www.newtvsobama.com)
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To: octex

The author is bonkers, IMO.

I kept a +/- talley during the debate and Newt came in fourth, behind Perry, Bachmann and Paul.


If you think Bachmann bested Gingrich, you are bonkers. IMO. Bachmann vs. Gingrich is analogous to Pee Wee Herman vs. Churchill.


47 posted on 12/11/2011 8:17:54 AM PST by Lucas McCain (The day may come when the courage of men will fail, but not this day.)
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To: RummyChick

I agree with you about Newt. I can imagine the Secret Service dragging Newt of the debate stage for beating up on the president.


48 posted on 12/11/2011 8:20:03 AM PST by Lucas McCain (The day may come when the courage of men will fail, but not this day.)
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To: RummyChick

I agree with you about Newt. I can imagine Secret Service agents dragging Newt off the debate stage for beating up on the president.


49 posted on 12/11/2011 8:21:05 AM PST by Lucas McCain (The day may come when the courage of men will fail, but not this day.)
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To: RummyChick

I agree with you about Newt. I can imagine Secret Service agents dragging Newt off the debate stage for beating up on the president.


50 posted on 12/11/2011 8:21:32 AM PST by Lucas McCain (The day may come when the courage of men will fail, but not this day.)
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