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Another version of Mike McQueary's story about Jerry Sandusky surfaces
Pennlive.com ^ | 12-11-11 | Sarah Ganim

Posted on 12/11/2011 6:18:26 AM PST by FlJoePa

STATE COLLEGE -- Minutes after Mike McQueary says he stumbled upon something between Jerry Sandusky and a boy in a Penn State shower in 2002, he went to his father’s State College home seeking advice.

There, Dr. Jonathan Dranov, a family friend and colleague of McQueary’s father, sat with the then 28-year-old graduate assistant and listened to his very first account of what he had seen, a source told The Patriot-News.

According to the source with knowledge of Dranov’s testimony before the grand jury, it went like this:

McQueary heard "sex sounds" and the shower running, and a young boy stuck his head around the corner of the shower stall, peering at McQueary as an adult arm reached around his waist and pulled him back out of view.

Seconds later, Sandusky left the shower in a towel.

That account is different from the hand-written statement obtained by The Patriot-News that McQueary provided for investigators when he was interviewed in 2010.

It’s also different than the summary of his grand jury testimony in the 23-page initial grand jury presentment.

In both of those accounts, McQueary says he witnessed Sandusky sodomizing a boy as he stood with his hands against a shower wall.

McQueary says the pair turned and looked at him before he left.

However, Dranov told grand jurors that he asked McQueary three times if he saw anything sexual, and three times McQueary said no, according to the source.

Because of that response, the source says, Dranov told McQueary that he should talk to his boss, head football coach Joe Paterno, rather than police.

The next day Paterno and McQueary talked, and Paterno’s response to the conversation was widely scrutinized when the grand jury presentment was made public in November.

Paterno said graphic detail, such as rape, was never mentioned to him. But public outcry led to his firing five days after Sandusky was charged.

But more importantly than public opinion, Mike McQueary’s story is a key element to all the criminal cases involved in the Sandusky scandal.

His witness testimony was the only evidence of an assault in 2002 presented to grand jurors, and his detailed account is the reason that perjury charges were filed against two ousted Penn State officials. Both said they were told only about horseplay that made McQueary uncomfortable, while McQueary testified he told them explicit details about a rape.

Repeated attempts to reach McQueary over the past month for comment have been unsuccessful. McQueary was placed on leave after receiving death threats as a result of his testimony about allegations against Jerry Sandusky from people who believe he did not do enough to stop the alleged assault.

Friday, former Athletic Director Tim Curley and Vice President Gary Schultz will face a preliminary hearing on charges of perjury and failure to report a crime.

The case against them is dependent on the premise that McQueary’s testimony is more credible than theirs. Saturday, attorneys for Curley and Schultz issued this statement in response to Dranov’s testimony:

"We have not seen the grand jury transcript, so it would be imprudent to comment on its content. But, if this information is true, and we believe it is, it would be powerful, exculpatory evidence, and the charges against our clients should be dismissed."

His testimony might also be important on Tuesday to the case against Sandusky.

Jerry Sandusky arraignment on new charges Enlarge ANDY COLWELL, The Patriot-News Former Penn State football defensive coordinator Jerry" Sandusky, right, leaves the office of Centre County District Justice Daniel A. Hoffman under escort by Pennsylvania State Police and Attorney General's Office officials in Bellefonte, Pa. on Thursday, Dec. 7, following a grand jury investigation related to numerous child sex charges. ANDYCOLWELL for The Patriot-News Jerry Sandusky is arraigned on new child sexual abuse charges gallery (10 photos)

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Vowing to prove his innocence, Sandusky and his attorney, Joe Amendola, are sure to point out the inconsistencies in McQueary’s statements at a preliminary hearing in Bellefonte. Sandusky has been charged with more than 50 counts and maintained his innocence.

Since charges were filed Nov. 4, several variations of McQueary’s story have come out publicly.

His grand jury testimony says he heard slapping noises and saw a boy being sodomized by Sandusky. His hand-written statement to police says, "I did not see insertion. I am certain that sexual acts/the young boy being sodomized was occurring." He says the whole incident lasted about a minute. In an email he sent to friends following the firing of Joe Paterno, he says "I made sure it stopped," something not mentioned in the grand jury testimony or police statement. And now Dranov’s testimony describes a new scenario.

About two months after the incident McQueary describes in March 2002, Dranov and McQueary’s father, John, both physicians, had an unrelated meeting scheduled at Penn State with Gary Schultz, Dranov told the grand jury, according to the source.

Curious about how the story ended, Dranov inquired about what ever happened to Sandusky.

According to a source with knowledge of his testimony, Schultz told him then-university President Graham Spanier had met with Sandusky.

That’s something that isn’t mentioned in the grand jury presentment.

Spanier, who was forced to resign the same night Paterno was fired, testified before the grand jury that he had signed off on a decision to ban Sandusky from bringing children to the locker rooms in the future; however, Spanier, Curley and Schultz all deny they were ever informed a sexual assault occurred that night.

Attempts to reach Dranov were unsuccessful.

Sandusky, through Amendola, has offered yet another version of what happened in the showers. He doesn’t deny there was a boy showering with Sandusky that night, but Amendola says the child was surfing in the shower — horsing around — and never saw McQueary come into the locker room.

Instead, Amendola says, a few days later Sandusky was contacted by Curley, told that someone felt uncomfortable about what they’d seen, and Sandusky gave the name and phone number of the boy to Curley to help clear up the situation.

The grand jury report points out that no effort was made to contact the boy.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: dranov; mcqueary; pa; pedophilia; pennstate; sandusky; spanier
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1 posted on 12/11/2011 6:18:31 AM PST by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Any man over 21 that who showers with boys under 18 while admiting to have had horseplay with them while naked and wet... is a candidate for a firing squad as far as I am concerned!
2 posted on 12/11/2011 6:28:04 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: FlJoePa

Paterno should have testified.

Penn State put football ahead of criminal rape of boys.

Shut the program down, and salt the earth where it existed.


3 posted on 12/11/2011 6:30:06 AM PST by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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To: FlJoePa

Looks like Paterno’s spin team is hard at work.


4 posted on 12/11/2011 6:30:52 AM PST by PAR35
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To: FlJoePa
Regardless of the possible variations in the accounts, something stinks to high heaven here. From grade school through high school, we wore uniforms and showered after each gym class (granted this was many years ago). If one of our teachers were to undress and join us in the showers, it would have caused a scandal that would surely have cost the teacher his job and possibly criminal charges.

If a teacher would have been caught showering with one of his students privately after-hours when no one else was around, well, that teacher would have been run out of town on a rail. In any versions of the story, what Sandusky did was unacceptable under any standards of common decency, and constituted the sexual abuse of a minor.

5 posted on 12/11/2011 6:33:39 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: FlJoePa
Damn...just plain damn.

Sandunsky should spend the rest of his life in a 6x9 cell for what he’z done to these kids.

Great coach or not, if Paterno knew about it and neglected to go to the cops with it, he too should be charged with a crime.

How many kids would have been spared a lifetime of emotional agony if just one of these nit-wits would have gone to the police.

Penn State football program was more important to these people.

6 posted on 12/11/2011 6:34:24 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: FlJoePa

I still refuse, so far, to believe that JoePa has done anything wrong. I find it difficult to understand all the character assination here.

I wonder if McQueery and Sandusky were/are having a lovers’ spat.


7 posted on 12/11/2011 6:35:51 AM PST by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: All

Do some of you people actually READ the articles before posting your expert commentary on them?

Or is it just another convenient opportunity to post “Joe knew!” “Shut the program down!!!” comments?


8 posted on 12/11/2011 6:40:36 AM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Amendola—the 49 year old who impregnated his 16 year-old client. Why has he not been disbarred?


9 posted on 12/11/2011 6:42:30 AM PST by NautiNurse
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To: FlJoePa
Spanier testified before the grand jury that he had signed off on a decision to ban Sandusky from bringing children to the locker rooms in the future

Translation:

We know you are a rapist, so keep on raping children, but don't do it on School property so when you get caught we won't be involved.

Oh yeah, and this bizarre fact: Spanier's "hobby" was to dress up like a clown and attend kids parties.

10 posted on 12/11/2011 6:45:57 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: PAR35

Paterno should be indicted what a disgrace this mans legacy will be


11 posted on 12/11/2011 6:48:03 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: FlJoePa

I’d say the latter.


12 posted on 12/11/2011 6:52:39 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Rannug
yes I agree with you. There are a lot people who just do not like anything having to do with sports for whatever reason. Add homosexuality and the charges of pedophilia and the intensity increases. Also, I am shocked that people here on FR who preach the US Constitution do not really understand that the right to due process is a constitutional right afforded to every US citizen, not just to the people we like or the people we want to vote for president.
13 posted on 12/11/2011 7:13:14 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: FlJoePa

Reading the article only slows them down.

McQueary’s story has problems. There are some contradictions. However, I think if Joe didn’t know, he didn’t want to know. Same difference in the end.


14 posted on 12/11/2011 7:15:30 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: italianquaker

What should Joepa be charged with? Please site the Pa State code that Joe pa violated and explain why he was not indicted.


15 posted on 12/11/2011 7:16:19 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Rannug

And OJ is innocent too.


16 posted on 12/11/2011 7:18:39 AM PST by The Old Commander (Where is Madam dufarge when we need her?)
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To: FlJoePa
The facts are the same, dumb-ass Joe knew what had happened he continued to associate with a pervert. Birds of a feather.
17 posted on 12/11/2011 7:20:21 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: The Old Commander

what law did joepa break?


18 posted on 12/11/2011 7:23:45 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

I know if someone told me what happened in that shower and I didnt report it to the police I would be indicted, Paterno is a disgrace


19 posted on 12/11/2011 7:31:35 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: Bender2; Condor51; GOPJ; stephenjohnbanker; Libloather; sickoflibs; Grampa Dave; indylindy; ...
Any man over 21 who showers with boys under 18 while admiting to having had horseplay with them while naked and wet... is a candidate for a firing squad as far as I am concerned!

The scope and dimension of pedophilia perversion was exhibited when Sandusky actually went on TV---with his lawyer coaching him----and said he was "attracted" to young girls and boys, and did "nothing more" than shower and horseplay with young boys.

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Does this psychotic-pervert realize that even loving fathers do not shower with their sons.....b/c they know it is inappropriate.

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There is a HUGE push by pedophile groups to normalize this type of behavior----Sandusky permitted to say this on TV is part of the agit-prop.......the normalization/proselytizing process.

20 posted on 12/11/2011 7:32:26 AM PST by Liz
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