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Newt Gingrich Responds To Glenn Beck (He doesn't deny being a progressive)
WGIR AM 610 and 96.7 the Wave with Host Paul Westcott ^ | December 12th | Newt Gingrich(Audio)

Posted on 12/12/2011 9:09:39 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

when you're talking about Glenn Beck now he actually, the other day, called you a progressive on FOX Business channel. What do you say to that sort of claim?"

Gingrich: "I don't know. It depends on what standard you're using, you know? The fact is I balanced the budget for four consecutive years. And we did so by cutting taxes and increasing employment so people went back to work, they left welfare, they left food stamps, they left unemployment, they left Medicaid. Who else has that record of achievement? I worked with Reagan in '79, '80. I worked with Reagan in defeating the Soviet Empire. I think those are relatively conservative credentials."

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To: Reily
You are correct abut Jefferson. As SoS he stabbed Washington in the back re France.
141 posted on 12/12/2011 8:43:29 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: MindBender26

The ACU is a RINO club.

They were created by Dole to bless RINOs, and that is exactly what they do.


142 posted on 12/12/2011 8:46:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
It is precisely because I don't want four more years of Obama that I am opposed to McNewt. Did you not learn anything from 2008? If we field a conservative candidate, we win. If we field Democrat-lite, we lose. Why settle for GingrichCare when you can have ObamaCare? Why settle for a milder version of amnesty under Gingrich when you can have full-blown amnesty under Obama? And why settle for someone who worships FDR when you can actually have FDR with Obama?

This is our one chance to get a conservative in the White House. Yet we are already punting on first down.

143 posted on 12/12/2011 8:50:00 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: CSI007
Real conservatives will vote for the best candidate available, who will be the republican candidate because he will have a chance to beat the Usurper. IDK what the hell you wierdoes plan to do--vote for Paul maybe, or Roemer? Hey why not. Then there's that guy from new mexico on the free dope ticket. Yeah that's the ticket! Gofer it!
144 posted on 12/12/2011 8:50:32 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Sans-Culotte

>> “I agree that Newt effectively refuted Beck with his response.” <<

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Then you must admire Bill Clinton’s parsing of “is.”

Noot didn’t refute Beck, he effectively affirmed him by trying to side-step the question, and answer it with vague rhetorical questions.


145 posted on 12/12/2011 8:51:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Palladin
Most of Newt's achievements came after Reagan had long left office. You are historically illiterate, which figures.
146 posted on 12/12/2011 8:53:17 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Gingrich says he is ‘Wilsonian’?

“...Wilson’s two terms in office provide the clearest historical window into the soul of progressivism. Wilson’s racism, his ideological rigidity, and his antipathy toward the Constitution were all products of the progressive worldview. And since “progressivism” is suddenly in vogue – today’s leading Democrats proudly wear the label – it’s worth actually reviewing what progressivism was and what actually happened under the last full-throated progressive president.

The record should give sober pause to anyone who’s mesmerized by the progressive promise.

Wilson, like the bulk of progressive intellectuals in fin-de-siècle America, was deeply influenced by three strands of thought: philosophical Pragmatism, Hegelianism, and Darwinism. This heady intellectual cocktail produced a drunken arrogance and the conviction that the old rules no longer applied.”

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2008/0205/p09s01-coop.html


147 posted on 12/12/2011 8:54:13 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: GeronL
Are you suggesting that anyone who doesn’t think Newt is the answer should be banned before a single vote has been cast? I was under the impression that this was a conservative forum not a single-candidate vehicle, and never has been.

I think I am right about that.

I'm not advocating banning anyone. I only mentioned that the anti-newts are not likely Romney-bots as they have been getting zotted. I just was questioning who the anti-Newts are supporting.

148 posted on 12/12/2011 9:18:14 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: BigBobber

I’d say Gingrich, who is often subtle, was subtly suggesting that he, with his record as a Republican congressman and Speaker, has more solid conservative accomplishments than the media performer Glenn Beck. Beck could, however, counter that he’s had more success hawking survival food.


149 posted on 12/12/2011 9:57:34 PM PST by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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To: hinckley buzzard

From Noot’s own fat mouth:

“I worked with Reagan in ‘79, ‘80. I worked with Reagan in defeating the Soviet Empire. I think those are relatively conservative credentials.”


150 posted on 12/12/2011 10:04:16 PM PST by Palladin (Santorum/Bachmann 2012.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I agree with most of what you say, but al Qaeda didn’t sprout from the bloody soil of the Lebanese civil war (Hezbollah, plenty nasty, did—and drove us thence). Al Qaeda grew out of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the mujahideen it drew from the Muslim world in general, and Saudi Arabia in particular, most notably Osama bin Laden.

While handing the Soviets a Vietnam of their own was a great cause, we could have been more discriminating when it came to selecting our allies. Some of these Islamic freaks, including al Qaeda and bin Laden, turned out to be worse than the Soviets.


151 posted on 12/12/2011 10:16:52 PM PST by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Look, us “wierdos” tried to stop you “normal” folks 4 years ago from nominating another progressive republican. But people like you insisted he was the best choice and that he could handily beat Obama or Hillary without a problem.

Maybe heed our advice for once and nominate a real conservative ho can beat a freak in leftist democrat?


152 posted on 12/12/2011 10:56:49 PM PST by CSI007
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To: eater-of-toast
Check your History and find the essay that Colonel Oliver North wrote about this. I assure you that you are correct... and so am I.

LLS

153 posted on 12/13/2011 4:55:32 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: editor-surveyor

Dear Fool,

ACU was founded in 1964 by Bill Buckley.

Read your history before you try to post your “everyone is a RINO except me” BS.


154 posted on 12/13/2011 5:03:28 AM PST by MindBender26 (Stop bothering me with minor issues. I'm too damn busy trying to save our country from Obamaism)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Amazing to me that Newt, the supposed Napoleon of all Progressives, is being attacked not only by the likes Beck and Savage and the far-left, but also by the “Progressive” wing of the GOP from Sununu. to Quayle, to Susan Molinaro, and the entire litany of Romney's Rhino's and the Party's blue blood Establishment.We used to call them Rockefeller Republicans/Country club Republicans.

The only ones who are supporting Newt right now are the people, including a majority of those who identify with the Tea Party. In 1980, we called them Reagan Democrats.

When Newt calls Obama a radical Alinskyite at his core, we get it. When Beck says the same thing, with all his charts, and arrows, it borders on neurosis.

I will go to war with Newt against what I consider the greatest threat to America's values in its rich history. But, right now we NEED government. Government is the ONLY hope, short of an armed revolution, to undo the damage of the past 4 years. We need somebody with a little brass , not a puppet of the Party Establishment. We needs somebody who is not afraid to speak what's on his mind and speak clearly and coherently to the people without a teleprompter on a wide range of issues, not only in 30 second sound bites.

It's a shame that a vigorous and outspoken Ronald Reagan is not around today to share his insight. 2012 is incredibly similar to 1980 in many ways. Newt understands this and is running a Reaganesque campaign...hitting the same broad themes upgraded for 21st century reality.

155 posted on 12/13/2011 6:53:11 AM PST by RonnG
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To: MindBender26

Someday you may rise to the level of “fool.” Presently you strive for worm or slug. You’ve absolutely no idea what the American experience is all about; you peek in from afar.

Buckley is the biggest RINO, snob, anti-America sellout there ever has been. He was worse than Rocke.


156 posted on 12/13/2011 8:10:25 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
May well be 'progressive' to have had a 'balanced budget' given how otherwise historically 'stuck' America's budget had been; until Newt made it happen.

That said; by same standards of 'comments' one might imagine that Glenn Beck is a 'progressive' given his comments on Ron Paul - who himself; if one extrapolates his 'foreign policy and Military analysis; would put him 'further' Left; than the average Leftie. . .and so 'progressive'.

Words mean things; but depends on who is interpreting and from 'whatever 'data/context.

Deeds mean a great deal too; as does hindsight, for that matter. Of course and as well; is the the ability to recognize one's mistakes. . .and admit them. Learning from 'history' matters; and clearly Newt is not just a teacher; but a 'student' as well. All the better, IMHO; for being successful.

Certainly works better; than the 'status quo' MO, Romney and GOP are locked into. (Their latest mistake, imagining that it is better for Repubs to NOT be critical of - the one most deserving - Obama; lest we anger those who 'feel sorry' for him.

Now here is a great example of a group of people UNABLE to learn from past mistakes! And oh, how pathetic that is. . .the worst kind of Conservatism that has no imagination or ability to appreciate the best of a fresh and progressive mindset - progressive by it's best definition, of course.

157 posted on 12/13/2011 10:10:55 AM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier' out of our White House!/ Newt can make it happen. . .)
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To: editor-surveyor
Buckley is the biggest RINO, snob, anti-America sellout there ever has been.

You are so obviously a troll, and an unusually uninformed one that that.

First, Bill Buckley is generally known to have worked with Barry Goldwater to create the modern Conservative movement. George H. Nash, a historian of the modern American conservative movement, believed that Buckley was "arguably the most important public intellectual in the United States in the past half century... For an entire generation, he was the preeminent voice of American conservatism and its first great ecumenical figure."

Buckley's primary contribution to politics was a fusion of traditional American political conservatism with laissez-faire economic theory and anti-communism, laying groundwork for the new American conservatism of U.S. presidential candidates Barry Goldwater and President Ronald Reagan.

To show the depths of your lack of knowledge, unfortunately Mr. Buckley no longer "is" anything. He died 3 years ago.

158 posted on 12/13/2011 1:45:38 PM PST by MindBender26 (Stop bothering me with minor issues. I'm too damn busy trying to save our country from Obamaism)
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To: editor-surveyor
Buckley is the biggest RINO, snob, anti-America sellout there ever has been.

You are so obviously a troll, and an unusually uninformed one that that.

First, Bill Buckley is generally known to have worked with Barry Goldwater to create the modern Conservative movement. George H. Nash, a historian of the modern American conservative movement, believed that Buckley was "arguably the most important public intellectual in the United States in the past half century... For an entire generation, he was the preeminent voice of American conservatism and its first great ecumenical figure."

Buckley's primary contribution to politics was a fusion of traditional American political conservatism with laissez-faire economic theory and anti-communism, laying groundwork for the new American conservatism of U.S. presidential candidates Barry Goldwater and President Ronald Reagan.

To show the depths of your lack of knowledge, unfortunately Mr. Buckley no longer "is" anything. He died 3 years ago.

159 posted on 12/13/2011 1:46:03 PM PST by MindBender26 (Stop bothering me with minor issues. I'm too damn busy trying to save our country from Obamaism)
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To: MindBender26

American Conservatism has never needed creeps like Buckley.

Refusing to accept absurd lore as factual makes not a troll, but accepting it surely makes a fool.

The fight against communism was fought by Senator McCarthy, and Robert Welch. It was seriously encumbered by fools like Buckley. Its now dead thanks to his kind.


160 posted on 12/13/2011 2:32:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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