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71% of Americans celebrate Christmas as a holy day
RasmussenReports.com ^ | 12/12/2011 | staff

Posted on 12/12/2011 10:30:43 AM PST by Notwithstanding

More Americans than ever say they celebrate the upcoming holiday of Christmas as a religious one.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 88% of American Adults say they celebrate Christmas, and 81% of this group celebrate it as a religious holiday. Just 16% of those celebrants regard it as a secular holiday.


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(88% celebrate it) x (81% of those do so as a holy day) = 71.28% celebrate Christmas as a religious holy day
1 posted on 12/12/2011 10:30:47 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding

(88% celebrate it) x (16% of those do so as a secular holiday) = 14.08% celebrate Christmas as a secular holiday

12% do not celebrate Christmas at all (or would not answer the question)


2 posted on 12/12/2011 10:32:54 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Notwithstanding

Ohhh, this will not make the demon-infected left happy.


3 posted on 12/12/2011 10:33:46 AM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: Notwithstanding

I don’t know about the math in this, but overall this is great news. I don’t even mind the 16 percent who celebrate it as a secular holiday because as long as Christmas survives I will be happy. I do feel sorry for kids who attend public schools though....no fun. My kids go to Catholic School and they still have a full Christmas pageant with Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus....not to mention tons of fatty cookies and cakes to eat after. It is just delightful to see that schools still do this type of thing. Unfortunately for public school kids that is not reality.


4 posted on 12/12/2011 10:34:48 AM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: Notwithstanding

5 posted on 12/12/2011 10:36:44 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Notwithstanding

Personally I see a silver lining in a crappy economy at Christmas. It seems to be driving my family toward a more traditional Christmas less focused on presents and more focused on family and God.


6 posted on 12/12/2011 10:43:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Vendome
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7 posted on 12/12/2011 10:44:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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Lamh Foistenach Abu!
8 posted on 12/12/2011 10:46:25 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Notwithstanding

Whoa. Back the truck up here.

I’m a Christian. And I don’t see Christmas as a Holy Day.

I think I know what this article is getting at. But if someone wants to get out the Bible and show me where it says to celebrate December 25 as a holy day, then....


9 posted on 12/12/2011 10:46:39 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Notwithstanding

“Peace on earth, good will toward all men”... trumps religion.. and politics..

Makes a laughing stock of Marxism and dialectical materialism..

URP has ejected God like a DVD player..
America HAS NOT...


10 posted on 12/12/2011 10:51:41 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I’m a Christian. And I don’t see Christmas as a Holy Day.

For me, the big one is Easter.
11 posted on 12/12/2011 10:54:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Please don’t fart on this thread.


12 posted on 12/12/2011 10:57:36 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Notwithstanding

More validation that this country is still a Christian nation. I think Easter is the truest Christian holiday of all, and that it’s just a guess that Christmas is the date of His birth, but that’s still “the reason for the season”.


13 posted on 12/12/2011 11:07:26 AM PST by Baladas
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To: Notwithstanding

holy: religious, sacred

holiday: holy day

holy day: a day set aside for special religious observance


14 posted on 12/12/2011 11:08:27 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Notwithstanding

holy: showing a devotion to God and to a life of virtue


15 posted on 12/12/2011 11:09:09 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Notwithstanding

How in blazes can anyone describe Christmas as a “secular holiday?”

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Merry Christmas, all!!!!


16 posted on 12/12/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: Baladas

Why do want to nitpick on this thread?

The world stops on December 25 each year to celebrate the fact that Jesus the Savior was born as a man in the humblest of circumstances.

The thread does not say anything about the actual date of birth.

The day is holy because it is a day to remember that God chose to enter the worlds as a tiny child so that He could make John 3:16 a reality.

If you don’t think that the birth of Christ was holy and the celebration of it is holy then “seasons greetings” to you.


17 posted on 12/12/2011 11:16:37 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Notwithstanding

‘We’re not a Christian nation’ - B. Hussein Obama


18 posted on 12/12/2011 11:23:33 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: napscoordinator

My daughter’s “Winter Concert” was last week. They sang one non-traditional Christmas song about getting stuff, one miserable little song about the winter solstice, a song about a snow day and a twenty second Hanukkah song. It was awful... just awful.

This was our first Christmas concert in public school. I’m on a mission to make it our last.


19 posted on 12/12/2011 11:29:42 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Vendome

As much as I understand the message I hate the graphic because it comes from that jackass Kevin Smith.


20 posted on 12/12/2011 11:35:43 AM PST by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: frogjerk

who dat? and whut’s duh issue?


21 posted on 12/12/2011 11:42:12 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: hosepipe
“Peace on earth, good will toward all men”

"Glory to God in the highest: and on earth peace to men of good will."

22 posted on 12/12/2011 11:42:12 AM PST by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: Responsibility2nd

>>But if someone wants to get out the Bible and show me where it says to celebrate December 25 as a holy day, then....

Christmas is the day we celebrate the birth of our Savior. It doesn’t matter what day of the year that happens. The only important thing is that it does happen and that Christians everywhere celebrate the EVENT, not the DAY, together.


23 posted on 12/12/2011 12:11:06 PM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: Notwithstanding

Anyone check out the Blaze today? WOW! And I though we had problems in America with what we have done with the Holiday. It is nothing compared to the pagan celebration in the old world.

“Christmas Cartoon Featuring Santa‘s Demonic ’Helper’ Yanked From Travel Channel”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/christmas-cartoon-featuring-santas-demonic-helper-yanked-from-travel-channel/


24 posted on 12/12/2011 12:12:47 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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Some Christian Churches do not celebrate it as a holy day.

The Church of Christ...Not the United Church of Christ...did not used to celebrate it as a holy day because the exact date can not be determined.

25 posted on 12/12/2011 12:16:08 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Notwithstanding

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that the 29% are Democrats.


26 posted on 12/12/2011 12:30:32 PM PST by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: Lady Heron

Your comment is not pertinent to this thread.

This thread is about a poll that confirms that a vast majority of Americans celebrate Christmas as a holy day (a religious holiday).

That a small fraction of prideful people who claim to be Christians don’t wish to commemorate the birth of the Savior is shameful, especially in these times of militant atheism.


27 posted on 12/12/2011 12:30:36 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Responsibility2nd

Since the earliest days of the Christian Church, March 25 was commemorated as the date that Jesus Christ was conceived (the Feast of the Annunciation). March 25 was the date of the original Good Friday, and thus of Christ’s (terrestrial) death, and tradition held that the great Jewish prophets died on the date of either their birth or their conception, which helps explain why the early Church picked that date. Add 9 months to March 25 and you get December 25, which is why the date has been celebrated as Christ’s birthday since the early Church (as noted by St. John Chrysostom, a patriarch of Constantinople who died in 407 A.D.)

But there’s also a Biblical basis for the March 25 date of Christ’s conception. As St. John Chrysostom explained, Luke 1 says Zechariah was performing priestly duty in the Temple when an angel told his wife Elizabeth she would bear John the Baptist. During the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, Mary learned about her conception of Jesus and visited Elizabeth “with haste.” The 24 classes of Jewish priests served one week in the Temple, and Zechariah was in the eighth class. Rabbinical tradition fixed the class on duty when the Temple was destroyed in A.D. 70 and, calculating backward from that, Zechariah’s class would have been serving Oct. 2-9 in 5 B.C. So Mary’s conception visit six months later might have occurred the following March and Jesus’ birth nine months afterward. http://www.ancient-future.net/christmasdate.html

While pagans such as Emperor Aurelian later tried to co-opt the incresing popularity of Christmas by moving the pagan “feast of the unconquered Sun” (Sol Invictus) from December 21 to December 25, Christians had already been celebrating Christmas on December 25 for years prior.

Christmas is not as holy a day as Easter, but it is certainly a holy day, and it should be celebrated on December 25.


28 posted on 12/12/2011 12:59:39 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Notwithstanding; Lady Heron
Your comment is not pertinent to this thread.

WRONG. Your religous bigotry is showing. Her comment is EXTREMELY pertinent. Upthread you stated Christmas is a "holy day: a day set aside for special religious observance." Upthread (post 9) I made it clear that this was not true.
 
And as a memer of the Church of Christ, I do not appreciate your incorrect opinions of the Church of Christ. But, back to post 9, I halfway expected some bigoted Catholic to show up with their smug sanctimonious papal dogma.

29 posted on 12/12/2011 1:02:51 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

No, no, no.
You don’t get it: “Its just me and my bible (and/or the pope of my choosing) and none of the organized ancient liturgical Christianity crap is gonna dictate anything to me!”


30 posted on 12/12/2011 1:03:40 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: AuH2ORepublican

As I said (post 9) “get out the Bible and show me where it says to celebrate December 25 as a holy day”

What you’ve done was to quote Catholic dogma. But God’s word is silent on the matter of December 25.


31 posted on 12/12/2011 1:09:29 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

71% of Americans celebrate Christmas as a holy day.

You don’t.

Shame on you.


32 posted on 12/12/2011 1:10:55 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Responsibility2nd

The Catholic Church does not have any dogma that declares the actual date of Christ’s birth. The Church makes no statement of fact about the actual date.

The Church set the annual commemoration date of Christ’s birth as December 25 over 1500 years ago, basing that on the best calculation based on the knowledge of the day.

The Orthodox use the eve of January 6 to celebrate Christmas (they call it the Nativity of the Lord), a date that Catholics also celebrate but as Epiphany (the revelation of God the Son as a human being in Jesus Christ, specifically the visitation of the Biblical Magi to the Baby Jesus, and thus Jesus’ physical manifestation to the Gentiles).

While most people who love Jesus will be celebrating the fact that he was born sometime between December 25 and January 6, I wish you all the best on your dull ordinary December 25th, if you insist. May your heart be warmed by the satisfaction that you won’t play by anybody else’s rules.


33 posted on 12/12/2011 1:23:06 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Responsibility2nd

The Catholic Church does not have any dogma that declares the actual date of Christ’s birth. The Church makes no statement of fact about the actual date.

The Church set the annual commemoration date of Christ’s birth as December 25 over 1500 years ago, basing that on the best calculation based on the knowledge of the day.

The Orthodox use the eve of January 6 to celebrate Christmas (they call it the Nativity of the Lord), a date that Catholics also celebrate but as Epiphany (the revelation of God the Son as a human being in Jesus Christ, specifically the visitation of the Biblical Magi to the Baby Jesus, and thus Jesus’ physical manifestation to the Gentiles).

While most people who love Jesus will be celebrating sometime between December 25 and January 6 the fact that He was born, I wish you all the best on your dull ordinary December 25th, if you insist. May your heart be warmed by the satisfaction that you won’t play by anybody else’s rules.


34 posted on 12/12/2011 1:23:59 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Responsibility2nd

I assume that you don’t celebrate Easter either, since its (movable) date was established by the First Council of Nicaea in 325 based on Christian traditions (much like December 25 was established as Christmas in the first few centuries of the Church), and the Bible doesn’t actually say “in 2012, it will be held on April 8.”

While, in theory, one could celebrate the birth of Christ and His Resurrection every day if one is so afraid of celebrating them on the wrong date, I assume that such celebrations would necessarily be quite subdued, and I think that it must suck not to be able to celebrate Christmas or Easter with great joy and merriment because of fear that the selection of such dates was tainted by the incipient papism of 4th century Christians.


35 posted on 12/12/2011 1:32:57 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

“No. No. No.

Eff Christmas.

Christ don’t need no stinkin’ birthday celebration.

Eff the papists who gave us the stupid idea to celebrate Christ’s birth. Unless the bible says “celebrate event X on date Y in manner Z” we don’t celebrate it. So we never celebrate nothing. Not even family birthdays. Its not in the damn Book - so we don’t do it!”


36 posted on 12/12/2011 1:42:01 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Notwithstanding

“I assume that you don’t celebrate Easter either...”

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As a Christian, I celebrate Easter every Sunday. In partaking of communion.

Again, I ask you Catholics to show IN THE BIBLE direct commandments or even examples of why we should celebrate Holy Days.

Also. Look at Romans Chapter 14 about sacred days and ask yourself “why do you judge your brother or sister? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat.”


37 posted on 12/12/2011 1:48:07 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You (paraphrased, of course):

“Eff the papists who gave us the stupid idea to celebrate Christ’s birth. Unless the bible says ‘celebrate event X on date Y in manner Z’ we don’t celebrate it. So we never celebrate nothing. Not even family birthdays. Its not in the damn Book - so we don’t do it!”

Me:

No wonder your faith tradition is so novel, so short-lived and so close to dying out.

How sad that the few men in history who have had the misfortune to belong to it are denied the jubilation of uniting each year with the world at large to focus on the Gospel narrative of Christ’s conception, birth and early life, knowing the entire time that those events are all a very beautiful and crucial part of the profound reality stated so succinctly in John 3:16.

Such hearts are warmed, no doubt, by the joy of knowing they are independent.


38 posted on 12/12/2011 2:04:48 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Responsibility2nd

You are correct of course that nothing in the Bible commands Christians to annually celebrate the birth of Christ. We are supposed to live that everyday.

Christmas is a nice thing to do of course.


39 posted on 12/12/2011 6:02:12 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: frogjerk
"Glory to God in the highest: and on earth peace to men of good will."

Good point. This doesn't apply to leftists. lol.

40 posted on 12/12/2011 6:04:03 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

It is a very nice thing. And as I sit here next to my Christmas tree with gifts under it, I am ever thankful for Christmas. It is a wonderful season.


41 posted on 12/12/2011 6:10:18 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: TV Dinners
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that the 29% are Democrats.
Every Jew is a Democrat? God help Israel then.
42 posted on 12/12/2011 7:27:35 PM PST by PalinPlease
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To: Responsibility2nd

It doesn’t say to celebrate Dec. 25 as a Holy day but it does say to give honor and glory to almighty God and celebrating the birth of His son, our saviour, does just that. So, it’s the universally accepted day as we don’t KNOW the exact day and I don’t see anything wrong with picking a date and keeping it each year.


43 posted on 12/12/2011 8:37:17 PM PST by kelly4c
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To: Notwithstanding

Amen! Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.


44 posted on 12/12/2011 8:39:09 PM PST by kelly4c
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To: Responsibility2nd

Okay I’m not a Catholic, but I don’t think that NOT having a direct commandment to celebrate the birth of Christ makes it wrong TO do so. There is no direct commandment to brush our teeth, or shave, or go to church every Sunday but we know it’s fine and good to do those things. You talk about being judged for not wanting to see the day we commemorate the birth of God on earth as a Holy day yet you SEEM to be judging those who do?


45 posted on 12/12/2011 8:51:35 PM PST by kelly4c
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yup. The Bible tells us Christ was NOT born in December. Either way, Christ should be celebrated on a daily basis. Christmas is actually the Winter Solstice and the rebirth of the SUN which was celebrated by the Pagan Romans.


46 posted on 12/12/2011 8:56:44 PM PST by Just4Him (The truth shall set you free. John 8:32)
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47 posted on 12/12/2011 9:40:32 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m a Christian. And I see Christmas as a holy day as the early Christians chose to remember the birth of our savior on that date and have been doing so for centuries ever since. But if someone wants to get out the Bible and show me where it says the Bible is the SOLE source of authority for Christian doctrine, then....


48 posted on 12/12/2011 10:03:10 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Notwithstanding
(88% celebrate it) x (81% of those do so as a holy day) = 71.28% celebrate Christmas as a religious holy day

This survey shows that almost 3/4 of American adults celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday. I hate to be cynical, but I would guess these numbers are quite wrong. My bet is: most of this 71% think of Christmas as a religious holiday, but the smaller percentage actually celebrate it as a religious holiday.

It is indeed a holy day, celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ (regardless of the exact day He was born). We celebrate Easter on an arbitrary date as Easter is always the first Sunday following the first full moon, following the vernal equinox. I don't know why some people feel that if you don't pin down the exact date, it cannot be a valid holy day. It matters not that the bible does not give us an exact date. Apparently these people would rather not celebrate the birth of Christ at all.

49 posted on 12/12/2011 10:07:13 PM PST by mtg
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To: Just4Him

Please show me where in the Bible it says that Jesus Christ was *not* born in December. And before you answer, please keep in mind that the Magi visited the Christ when He was a toddler, not a newborn (the Greek terms are quite distinct), so the fact that animals were grazing on stubble when the Magi visited does not imply anything about the time of year in which Christ was born. The best evidence from the Bible about Christ’s conception was that it occurred on March 25, which is why Christians have celebrated Christmas on December 25 (9 months after March 25) since very early in the Church’s history. See my post #28.

As for the canard about December 25 being the pagan holiday of Sol Invictus and Christmas being commemorated on that date to co-opt the pagan holiday, it is 180 degrees wrong. It was the pagans who moved their Sol Invictus to December 25 to try to co-opt the Christian holiday of Christmas. Again, read my post #28 and the article linked therein.


50 posted on 12/12/2011 10:50:09 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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