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Cincy, Xavier disgrace their sport and their schools
rivals.com ^ | 12/11/11 | Pat Forde

Posted on 12/12/2011 11:23:40 AM PST by GSWarrior

On the day after their basketball teams lost all self-control and sullied the reputations of their universities in the annual “Crosstown Shootout” game, the schools came back 24 hours later with punishments that further diminished the two. They took one of the worst on-court episodes in recent history and basically brushed it off with soft suspensions and hollow words.

Cincinnati’s Yancy Gates dropped an unsuspecting Kenny Frease with a sucker punch to the face, then punched another player, then tried like heck to go after several more but was restrained. He got only six games. If I were a Cincinnati alum, I wouldn’t want to see him wear the school uniform again. If I were a Cincinnati prosecutor, I’d consider filing assault charges.

Teammate Cheikh Mbodj, seen on videotape attempting to stomp on Frease as he was on the floor, also got six games. He should sit the rest of the season.

Octavius Ellis also was docked six games, and Ge’Lawn Guyn got one. No Bearcat will miss more than one Big East game.

There is a long and ignoble history of university leaders failing to step up and punish star athletes. This isn’t the first and won’t be the last, but it ranks among the most disappointing.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: basketball; cincinnati; ncaa; xavier
Tu Holloway, who was the prime instigator throughout the game, IMO, deserves more than a one game suspension for his outrageous post game comments alone, including:

“We’re grown men out there,” Holloway said, clearly misidentifying what constitutes manhood. “We’ve got a whole bunch of gangsters in that locker room. Not thugs, but tough guys out on the court.”

I can't believe that no one involved in this is going to miss any meaningful games. The penalties for fighting in the NBA are more strict than in the NCAA.

Video link to brawl

1 posted on 12/12/2011 11:23:45 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior
clearly misidentifying what constitutes manhood.

Which sums up in a nutshell the problem in certain parts of American society.

2 posted on 12/12/2011 11:27:20 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: GSWarrior

It’s a thug sport, played by thugs in a thug culture. To expect more is lunacy.


3 posted on 12/12/2011 11:29:06 AM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: GSWarrior

“THIS IS BASKETBALL!” - announcer from “Slapshot”


4 posted on 12/12/2011 11:31:24 AM PST by dfwgator
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I had thought that UC had de-thugged their program a few years ago. Guess not...


5 posted on 12/12/2011 11:34:37 AM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt! 2012)
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It’s a thug sport, played by thugs in a thug culture. To expect more is lunacy.

6 posted on 12/12/2011 11:35:20 AM PST by TSgt (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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“I had thought that UC had de-thugged their program a few years ago.”

The head thug (er, coach) left, but apparently the thug culture remained.

7 posted on 12/12/2011 11:38:22 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: GSWarrior
In 1965 I was a freshman at Xavier. During the UC/Xavier game, four Xavier freshman stood up and chanted, "UC sucks."

They were expelled.

8 posted on 12/12/2011 11:41:51 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: GSWarrior
In 1965 I was a freshman at Xavier. During the UC/Xavier game, four Xavier freshmen stood up and chanted, "UC sucks."

They were expelled.

9 posted on 12/12/2011 11:42:53 AM PST by HIDEK6
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Totally agree...
heard one of the coaches say his kids had to take off their jersies and earn the right to put them back on...
let’s see if he has the nads to do it now that the wimpy NCAA hasn’t got the guts to slap these kids down..
they need some tebowing time to realize that it’s just a game and these kids need some life lessons...


10 posted on 12/12/2011 11:43:20 AM PST by matginzac
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How are they supposed to learn what manhood is from their Mommas, Grammamas, and Aunties?


11 posted on 12/12/2011 11:46:02 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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He’s just warming up for a career in the NBA.


12 posted on 12/12/2011 11:57:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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Yancy Gates is a punk-ass cowardly bitch!

The biggest man on the court and he can't stand man to man, has to throw a sucker-punch and then retreat back to his bench area.

I bet this is just how he acted back home with his gang.

Sucker punching people or out numbering them is the only way this big-ass punk would ever confront someone.

13 posted on 12/12/2011 11:59:01 AM PST by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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I caught the post-game press session after the show. The coach said a lot of big talk about punishment and who’s fit to ,wear the uniform and all that, but it’s apparent he was just blowing smoke. The two players from Xavier were thug ballers right out of the hood.


14 posted on 12/12/2011 12:11:25 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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It was a terrible mistake to allow Holloway and the other player to be interviewed after the game. They did Xavier no favors. I was really surprised that no one “advised” them about what they should or shouldn’t say in the wake of the brawl. In my opinion Gates should miss a lot more than six games. The whole thing was sickening.


15 posted on 12/12/2011 12:17:08 PM PST by Faith
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It would be interesting to see how much money the basketball programs at Cincinnati and Xavier bring into the schools.

Some reports said the Penn State football program brought 50 to 80 million dollars to that school.

If the basketball programs bring in 1/10 of the money Penn State football does, it is still a nice hunk of change.

Stars being booted from the team when big dollars are involved? My guess it is not going to happen.

16 posted on 12/12/2011 12:32:21 PM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: matginzac

The punishments so far was from the coaches/school If I heard correctly. The NCAA and Big East/A10 have yet to dish out anything more. The coach just showed that winning is more important that teaching kids a lesson. Yates shouldn’t play another game. Maybe the NCAA will get this one right then.


17 posted on 12/12/2011 12:33:02 PM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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Ge’Lawn Guyn

Say it ain't so.

18 posted on 12/12/2011 12:43:01 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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More diversity on the rampage.


19 posted on 12/12/2011 12:48:30 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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The chances of a player being suspended for on-court issues is in direct relation to the conference in which he plays. An Atlantic 10 player is less likely to be disciplined than a player from say the Southwestern Athletic Conference.

It's all about money.

20 posted on 12/12/2011 12:59:00 PM PST by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than politicians, professors and preachers.)
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Here is my letter to both schools I sent this morning:

Subject: NICE JOB, WELL DONE ON THE SUSPENSIONS (I wanted to get their attention)

To the Board of Trustees and whom it may concern,

A job well done. My son is in the midst of deciding where he wants to go to College and you just made his job easier by him not wanting to attend either of your Universities after the spineless suspensions you gave your basketball players.
My son does not want to go to a sporting event where riots break out and where it’s basically condoned with a slap on the wrist!
This just goes to show where your priorities lie.

NO THANKS! Your schools are off his list.


21 posted on 12/12/2011 1:02:34 PM PST by oust the louse (Obama approval ratings are so low now, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the United States.)
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Money and political correctness ruined college ball many years ago. It used to be fun to watch.


22 posted on 12/12/2011 1:04:24 PM PST by day10 (Integrity has no need of rules.)
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To: Faith

The post-game interview was the fault of the coaching staff. No control.


23 posted on 12/12/2011 1:04:24 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: GSWarrior

Tu also jumped up on the scorer’s table and barked at media “You tell `em we put `em in body bags!” He’s a real class act.

As a University of Cincinnati alum, I agree that Yancey Gates needs to be expelled from the team (so the Portland Trailblazers can sign him up).


24 posted on 12/12/2011 1:07:07 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Mittt Romney - he lacks the courage of his absence of convictions .)
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Tu also jumped up on the scorer’s table and barked at media “You tell `em we put `em in body bags!”

Tu obviously has seen Karate Kid a few too many times :o)

25 posted on 12/12/2011 1:13:31 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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It wouldn’t make any sense to be one, if you couldn’t act like one.


26 posted on 12/12/2011 1:37:32 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

The Trailblazers cleaned up their team years ago. The community stopped going to the games when they had all the bad actors.


27 posted on 12/12/2011 2:03:28 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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Do you think Joe Deters will prosecute?

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/uc-xavier-meeles-may-lead-to-criminal-charges-1297847.html


28 posted on 12/12/2011 6:29:32 PM PST by Faith
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Deters may get a say in this mess.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/uc-xavier-meeles-may-lead-to-criminal-charges-1297847.html


29 posted on 12/12/2011 6:31:47 PM PST by Faith
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