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Newt Is the Problem
NRO ^ | 121111 | Avik Roy

Posted on 12/12/2011 4:03:09 PM PST by Fred

Newt Gingrich’s rise to the top of the GOP polls is fueled, in part, by Republicans’ mistrust of Mitt Romney. Romney’s signature Massachusetts health-care law, the model for Obamacare, leads many to wonder whether Romney can challenge the president on this most important domestic issue. But any conservative who opposes Romney because of Romneycare should oppose Gingrich with thrice the intensity: Newt Gingrich is one of the principal abettors of the exploding health-care entitlement state we face today. Indeed, it’s not clear what would be worse for the cause of entitlement reform: Newt’s losing to Obama or Newt’s beating him.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: effnro; gingrich; mandates; newt; newtcare; obamacare; romenycare; romneycare
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1 posted on 12/12/2011 4:03:24 PM PST by Fred
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To: Fred

Neither, thank you.


2 posted on 12/12/2011 4:04:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Fred

Actually, Newt was an early supporter of Medicare Advantage plans, a free market alternative to traditional Medicare.


3 posted on 12/12/2011 4:05:55 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Fred

Democrats choose their candidate on the basis of who will do the most to increase the size and scope of government. Republicans try to pick the person who will increase government the least. In either case we end up with bigger government. No wonder we are on the brink of collapse.


4 posted on 12/12/2011 4:06:44 PM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: Fred

The SCOTUS will rule on Obamacare before the 2012 election. Should put a whole new perspective on the race. That being said...NEWT IN 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 12/12/2011 4:07:45 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Fred

Great. NRO goes after Cain and dumps him. Now NRO goes after Newt.

News flash NRO, WE AREN’T VOTING ROMNEY.


6 posted on 12/12/2011 4:08:10 PM PST by struggle
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To: Fred

I’m not really sold on Newt, but it is so much to watch the establishment types freak out over Newt. They are determined to steer us to Dole, er, I mean McCain, er, I mean Mitt.


7 posted on 12/12/2011 4:08:18 PM PST by Obadiah (Obama's America: His Own Private Venezuela)
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To: Fred
Naw, not so much...........Newt is the CURE!
8 posted on 12/12/2011 4:08:18 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Fred

I don’t trust either of them...Newt makes my skin crawl. He’s just another DC connected, dorky oldtimer. The GOP rank and file is ticking me off!

I’ll have to vote for Romney over Newt if it comes down to it.


9 posted on 12/12/2011 4:09:17 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland
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To: Fred

The writer is probably just another MittRomney supporter at NR.


10 posted on 12/12/2011 4:09:17 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

^5


11 posted on 12/12/2011 4:09:52 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Fred
Indeed, it’s not clear what would be worse for the cause of entitlement reform: Newt’s losing to Obama or Newt’s beating him.

Hmmmmm...The Speaker that pushed through welfare reform or the President that gave us Obamacare? Who would be better to reform entitlements?

12 posted on 12/12/2011 4:10:34 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Fred

Gingrich is the worst of the GOP candidates. Very flawed character-wise and personality-wise. He is obviously unelectable.

But many are drinking the koolaid. Watch a wipe out worse than McCain in ‘08.


13 posted on 12/12/2011 4:11:02 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

LOL!


14 posted on 12/12/2011 4:12:08 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: all the best

Yup. Newt could have stopped after saying he would eliminate the EPA but he then said he would replace it with another federal agency called the environmental solutions agency.

*sigh*


15 posted on 12/12/2011 4:13:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek

What is the difference between Newt advocating for forced participation in a national health care system when he was Speaker of the House...

...and Freepers trying to force Tea Party members into voting for Newt because that is supposedly the Republican thing to do?


16 posted on 12/12/2011 4:13:55 PM PST by JohnBrownUSA (Don't Tread On America!)
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To: Obadiah

I’m not sold on Newt either. I’m going to vote Perry because at this point I think he is conservatives only hope. I wish Sarah would have run.


17 posted on 12/12/2011 4:14:03 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

And did you know that Obama is still the President?

Sheesh! New stuff to ponder every day I tell you!


18 posted on 12/12/2011 4:14:09 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Oh PLEASE!!!!! Newt is a differnt man since he reconnected to God!! He is NOT McCain....witness the “establishmnet” hates him and wants Mitt, but the “establishment gave us Dole AN D MCCAIN, because they were “next in line”!!!<P.I say MIX IT UP....let’s try Newt....WAAAAAAAYYYY better that Obama and different from Mitt!!!


19 posted on 12/12/2011 4:15:11 PM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Fred

Newt is the most intelligent, most articulate, knowledgeable candidate with deep understanding of American history.

Articulate, intelligent people feel threatening to the TV educated voters, making them feel inadequate.


20 posted on 12/12/2011 4:15:19 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Which one on the couch is newt, since they both believe in living on the tax payers tit.


21 posted on 12/12/2011 4:16:20 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Newt is just unlikeable, imo. We run Newt as our candidate, I’d expect Obama to get 60% of the women’s vote.


22 posted on 12/12/2011 4:16:55 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

RE: I’ll have to vote for Romney over Newt if it comes down to it.

Talk about exposing oneself as an idiot.


23 posted on 12/12/2011 4:17:39 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: org.whodat

Let me guess, Ron Paul? No?


24 posted on 12/12/2011 4:18:12 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

“I’ll have to vote for Romney over Newt if it comes down to it.”

Freeper exclusive lol...moderates on parade.


25 posted on 12/12/2011 4:19:29 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Fred

More of the right media throwing bombs at Newt in order to elevate Romney.


26 posted on 12/12/2011 4:19:47 PM PST by TennTuxedo
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To: Obadiah
I’m not really sold on Newt, but it is so much to watch the establishment types freak out over Newt.

The Establishment types are overjoyed that Gingrich has risen to be the alternative to Romney. They can hardly contain themselves. There are a few Establishment types who had previously sided with Romney or Perry, who are mildly criticizing him; but they are treating Newt with kid gloves and unlike the Cain for example, they have fully accepted him as front-runner and a legitimate nominee.

Gingrich is one of them.

Newt Gingrich is the poster child for Establishment politics. He is the ultimate insider. He helped build and is significantly responsible for our current, modern corrupt political system.

Newt is playing you, telling you what you want to hear without meaning it. Don't be stupid.

A vote for Newt Gigrich is a vote to perpetuate the corrupt political system that has ruined our economy, government and country.

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27 posted on 12/12/2011 4:20:26 PM PST by bobk333
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To: KansasGirl
Newt is just unlikeable, imo. We run Newt as our candidate, I’d expect Obama to get 60% of the women’s vote.

That's what my wife says too, for precisely that reason. Also, Calista as first lady?

28 posted on 12/12/2011 4:20:59 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: bobk333

Very well said. :)


29 posted on 12/12/2011 4:23:36 PM PST by JohnBrownUSA (Don't Tread On America!)
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To: TennTuxedo
More of the right media throwing bombs at Newt in order to elevate Romney.

There are many of us who have followed Gingrich for a long, long time, who are totally against Romney, but who fully realize what Newt is all about.

He is not who or what you think he is. He is totally playing you.

Newt is corrupt and deserves all the bombs, missiles, flames and criticism we can throw at him.

Don't be fooled by him, especially if you are Tea Party member. Please, open your eyes.

.

30 posted on 12/12/2011 4:24:51 PM PST by bobk333
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To: Menehune56

I’m a women and I have no problem voting for Newt. So your wife things that Obama is more likeable and she’d rather have Michelle in the WH that Calista.

Any woman, or man, for that matter, who thinks that. deserves what happens to this country.


31 posted on 12/12/2011 4:25:04 PM PST by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

“NO”, looking more and more like I will sit this one out.


32 posted on 12/12/2011 4:26:09 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: bobk333

Aren’t you one of the Paul fringers that attacked Palin, and then Cain, the two outside conservatives?

So, now we have a conservative that is not a true outsider, this is true. But, the Establishment hates him, you even heard them yelling at the Debate, when Newt zinged him.

LOL, no the GOP E does not like Gingrich, because he has vision and will set his own agenda, not that of the GOP E.


33 posted on 12/12/2011 4:27:13 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Kansas58
Actually, Newt was an early supporter of Medicare Advantage plans, a free market alternative to traditional Medicare.

Right, wasn't Newt slammed for saying his legislation would cause Medicare to "wither on the vine" as people switched from Government Healthcare to private advantage plans amd medical savings accounts? Lots of ignorant, deluded people running around these days forming opinions based on a single piece of anecdotal evidence cherry-picked from a guy who likes to brainstorm in public. Not real smart...

34 posted on 12/12/2011 4:27:51 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: JohnBrownUSA
Shortly before the election the media will begin to leak details from Newt's new climate change book due out in 2013. (Which FReepers have declared to be a lie despite the admission from the co author)

At this pace, Maple said, his new book with Gingrich would probably be out in 2013, after the presidential election.

Debbie Schussel on the new Gingrich book
35 posted on 12/12/2011 4:28:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: org.whodat

“NO”, looking more and more like I will sit this one out.”

Well....bye.


36 posted on 12/12/2011 4:29:31 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: cripplecreek

“Neither, thank you.”

Amen. Joining every liberal cause after quitting congress shows poor judgement. Finding individual mandate unconstitutional after 20 years pushing it (once running for president) is progress, but not convincing.


37 posted on 12/12/2011 4:30:34 PM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: beandog

Bull, what will women tell their daughters, look honey all it takes to be first lady is finding the right married man and get into a little office desk action.


38 posted on 12/12/2011 4:31:45 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: Fred

Ah yes, the Republican establishment trying to smear Newt while propping up Mitt. Go Newt.


39 posted on 12/12/2011 4:32:03 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Fred

How I miss William Buckley. I have a feeling that he would set some of these Republicans straight on a few matters. I’d love to see him have a little chat with Lindsey Graham. ;-/

I choose Newt over Romney. Period.


40 posted on 12/12/2011 4:32:28 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Fred

Newt was also an early proponent of ocial Sevcurity reform that would make it “wither on the vine”

This was a GOOD IDEA and the presstitutes hamered him for it (this was before widespread acceptance of the fact that the media of stocked with libtards and the power of Fox News)


41 posted on 12/12/2011 4:32:42 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: bobk333
The Establishment types are overjoyed that Gingrich has risen to be the alternative to Romney. They can hardly contain themselves.

LMAO, yeah the Establishment is real happy Newt came along. George Will, Karl Rove, Ann Coulter and Little Billy Kristol are absolutely giddy with glee at the thought of a Gingrich candidacy. NOT...

42 posted on 12/12/2011 4:32:53 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: bobk333

Ditto.


43 posted on 12/12/2011 4:33:24 PM PST by maggief
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To: Fred

Newt Gingrich = John McCain #2


44 posted on 12/12/2011 4:33:57 PM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: org.whodat

[“NO”, looking more and more like I will sit this one out.]

Well I’ll bet you say that to ALL the girls........


45 posted on 12/12/2011 4:35:19 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: rbmillerjr

So do you propose that the site become the newt idol shrine. Go for it!!


46 posted on 12/12/2011 4:36:11 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: JohnBrownUSA

“...that is supposedly the Republican thing to do.”

Says who?

AND...we are looking at the more CONSERVATIVE thing to do....with the possible candidates we’ve got.


47 posted on 12/12/2011 4:36:18 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Fred

>> Mark Steyn once called Gingrich “a lily-livered ninny whom everyone thinks is a ferocious right-wing bastard.” <<

And Steyn has come out strongly against Newt within the last week or so. I guess that means Steyn is now officially a socialist RINO.


48 posted on 12/12/2011 4:36:28 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Actually, I think YOU may be drinking that koolaid.


49 posted on 12/12/2011 4:38:33 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: rbmillerjr

“So, now we have a conservative that is not a true outsider,”

Conservative? lol

Your right about being an insider though...


50 posted on 12/12/2011 4:38:47 PM PST by CJ Wolf (OMG - Obama Must Go!)
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