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Austin may ban most plastic, paper bags
Austin American Statesman ^ | 12 Dec 2011 | Sarah Coppola

Posted on 12/12/2011 4:32:42 PM PST by Jonx6

The City of Austin might enact one of the broadest bag bans in the nation and prohibit disposable paper and plastic bags at all checkout counters starting in January 2016.

In the meantime, starting in 2013, retailers could continue to offer thin, so-called single-use bags, but customers would have to pay 25 cents apiece for them, according to a draft of the ban. That three-year period would give the public and retailers time to prepare for the ban, city officials say.

More than two dozen U.S. cities have enacted bag bans since 2007. Most prohibit plastic only, or ban plastic and impose a fee on paper. Austin would be one of only a few U.S. cities to ban both, said Bob Gedert , director of Austin Resource Recovery, the city department that wrote the draft ban and handles trash collection and recycling.

Under the ban, retailers would be able to offer only reusable bags, defined as those that have handles and are made of fabric or durable materials or are thick paper or plastic bags with some recycled content.

Exempt from the ban would be restaurant carryout bags, bags for wine and beer, dry cleaning bags, newspaper delivery bags and bags that hold meat, fish, produce, bulk foods or pharmaceuticals.

The city commission that reviews trash and recycling matters will discuss the draft ban Wednesday. The City Council will consider and might vote on it next month.

City Council members and environmental activists say plastic bags pollute waterways, harm wildlife, clog drainage systems and often end up as unsightly litter or landfill trash. But others say paper bags also cause environmental harm, taking as much or more energy to make and transport...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: austin; bag; ban; environmentalism
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1 posted on 12/12/2011 4:32:55 PM PST by Jonx6
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To: Jonx6

Anyone know where I can buy disposable grocery bags in bulk?


2 posted on 12/12/2011 4:34:37 PM PST by Jonx6
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To: Jonx6

City slogan should not be “Keep Austin Weird”... it should be “Keep Austin Prices Higher than everywhere else in Texas”


3 posted on 12/12/2011 4:40:16 PM PST by nagdt ("None of my EX's live in Texas")
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To: Jonx6

Liberals aren’t tyrants... just keep repeating until you believe it. lol.


4 posted on 12/12/2011 4:40:16 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Jonx6

To think we have our own San Francisco (or Berkeley) in Texas!


5 posted on 12/12/2011 4:41:16 PM PST by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: Jonx6
City Council members and environmental activists say plastic bags pollute waterways, harm wildlife, clog drainage systems and often end up as unsightly litter or landfill trash. But others say paper bags also cause environmental harm, taking as much or more energy to make and transport.

The obvious unasked question is how much will contagious disease increase as reusable cloth bags are brought into stores to be handled over and over. Idiots.

6 posted on 12/12/2011 4:42:44 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Jonx6
City Council members and environmental activists say plastic bags pollute waterways, harm wildlife, clog drainage systems and often end up as unsightly litter or landfill trash. But others say paper bags also cause environmental harm, taking as much or more energy to make and transport.

The obvious unasked question is how much will contagious disease increase as reusable cloth bags are brought into stores to be handled over and over. Idiots.

7 posted on 12/12/2011 4:42:55 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Jonx6

Yeah. Right outside the city limits. Any flea markets nearby??


8 posted on 12/12/2011 4:44:13 PM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Exactly!


9 posted on 12/12/2011 4:44:19 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Jonx6

They should ban all food. It’s packaged in paper or plastic isn’t it?


10 posted on 12/12/2011 4:44:29 PM PST by RC2
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Hopefully there will be sufficient deadly diseases passed around that the Leftwingtard voting base in Austin will disappear.


11 posted on 12/12/2011 4:45:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/10/25/2719523/reusable-bags-carry-germs-along.html


12 posted on 12/12/2011 4:46:04 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Jonx6

“Anyone know where I can buy disposable grocery bags in bulk?”

Sam’s Club - they’re called T-Shirt bags. Every time I read an article like this, I buy more of them. I’m up to something like 6,000 now (they sell them by the thousands).

If Austin is serious, I’ll probably go up to 10,000, adding them to my light bulb, pesticide, and other banned (or soon to be banned) inventory.


13 posted on 12/12/2011 4:47:09 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: BobL

This is so ridiculous. In many ways we are speeding past Europe. At least in most places in Europe, twenty five cents will buy you a decent, thick plastic bag.


14 posted on 12/12/2011 4:49:44 PM PST by riri
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To: Jonx6

“Anyone know where I can buy disposable grocery bags in bulk?”

Sam’s Club. You can buy cases of them there. I may get some tomorrow down at 290/Mopac.


15 posted on 12/12/2011 4:49:44 PM PST by Quanah
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To: nagdt

“City slogan should not be “Keep Austin Weird”... it should be “Keep Austin Prices Higher than everywhere else in Texas””

My west Austin home value has remained high and has actually increased over the last five years and that is good.


16 posted on 12/12/2011 4:54:02 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: Jonx6

Smart and Final carries them as well as Sam’s Club.


17 posted on 12/12/2011 4:55:14 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Jonx6
and as people drag filthy unwashed bags across the counters expect more problems than the disposable bags created...
18 posted on 12/12/2011 4:57:07 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Jonx6

First they came for the filthy, disease-carrying cloth bags, and I didn’t speak up because I carried my groceries home in eco-friendly, renewable paper bags.

Then they came for the paper bags, and I didn’t speak up because I carried my groceries home in eco-friendly plastic bags made from reusable petroleum.

Then they came for the plastic bags, and I didn’t speak up because I carried my groceries home in a reusable eco-friendly cloth bag.

Then they came for those filthy, disease-carrying cloth bags again, and once more I didn’t speak up because now I was carrying my groceries home in my two hands.

Then they came for my hands, and I was stumped because there was nobody left to speak up for me.


19 posted on 12/12/2011 4:57:34 PM PST by Argus
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To: Jonx6

I am so sick of the term “single use”. I use these bags to line the trash, pick up dog poo, put grandbabies diapers in, dirty clothes when I travel (no not after the poo pick up), they can be used for packing material when shipping and oh yea they are recyclable and eventually become my patio chair next year.


20 posted on 12/12/2011 5:00:06 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Jonx6

San Jose, CA is banning plastic bags on the 1st.

Today I bought a bunch of food and such at the Smart & Final on Monterrey near Tully. They were already out of bags.

Next shopping trip will be to the S&F in Santa Clara.


21 posted on 12/12/2011 5:02:16 PM PST by null and void (Day 1056 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Jonx6

I checked Ebay and they are listed under t-shirt bags. They are the regular disposable ones..... $25.62 for 1,000 of them (free shipping). Hope this helps, Jonx6!


22 posted on 12/12/2011 5:03:53 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Argus

Take the filthiest bag into the store and set it on the conveyor belt to have your things bagged. Then, the person behing you (preplanned) objects to the filth and demands the counter be sanitized with sanitizer like they demand in restaurants. Hey, it’s their rules. Put a little Alinsky in everyones life.


23 posted on 12/12/2011 5:04:40 PM PST by healy61
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To: DallasDeb

“To think we have our own San Francisco (or Berkeley) in Texas!”

Bingo! I’ve lived in the Austin area for almost 11 years and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve said, “gee, Austinites so badly want to be like San Francisco.”
They ban plastic grocery bags and continue to allow plastic trash bags, lawn bags, baggies and plastic to-go bags and styrofoam containers. Austin is on track to be San Fran and they couldn’t be happier. I’ll stay in the ‘burbs thank you.


24 posted on 12/12/2011 5:06:50 PM PST by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: Jonx6

One would think that Texans would get rid of such people in their government. What is the matter? Why isn’t the Austin city council being recalled?


25 posted on 12/12/2011 5:07:58 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Jonx6

Austin has become a pimple on our beautiful state! I live just a few miles north and west of the capitol city—but everything surrounding the city is red as red can be, including where I live.

I think having the huge University of Texas in Austin has to do with how liberal it is.

I’ve been saving up plastic bags for months—getting together a pretty good stash here—LOL!


26 posted on 12/12/2011 5:09:51 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Jonx6
Forget that. You need to find out where you can get some reusable shopping bags made out of harp seal or giant panda fur.

When they scream bloody murder, tell them not to worry because you used a big club so your carbon footprint would be smaller than using a gun.

27 posted on 12/12/2011 5:11:13 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: null and void
I heard you won't be able to go through 'self-check-out' if buying beer or other alcohol beginning on the 1st. These statists stink.

We'll never arrive at Utopia alive, but these idiots are hell-bent, pedal to the metal, veins popping out of their necks, gonna damn-sure try!

28 posted on 12/12/2011 5:15:05 PM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: Jonx6
Since reusable cloth bags become vectors for food contamination and diseases, I am waiting for the lawsuits because reusable bags are mandated.
29 posted on 12/12/2011 5:23:57 PM PST by Truth29
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

“Why isn’t the Austin city council being recalled?”

Every Austin city council seat is voted on At Large and meaning that each resident gets to vote on mayor and every member of the city council.

However, in west and central Austin the turnout for elections is 50% while in conservative neighborhoods the turnout is under 10%.


30 posted on 12/12/2011 5:25:38 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

According to any simple internet search, the evidence is in and this will indeed lead to a fair amount of food poisoning.


31 posted on 12/12/2011 5:25:57 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Jonx6
Best choice here is to RECYCLE ALL MEMBERS of that city council.

The problem isn't plastic bags - it is the people that use them, and the city workers that collect them. Both are sloppy in their handling of them, with government being the worst offender.

To keep the environment clear of plastic bags - fire the city council, turn over trash collection to private industry, and set a bounty on those who carelessly handle plastic bags. We could have a lot of fun on what that should be.

32 posted on 12/12/2011 5:29:01 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Jonx6

A beautiful town filled with many incredibly stupid people.


33 posted on 12/12/2011 5:29:01 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: austinaero

Spot on. Absolutely spot on.

Anybody in the Austin area who wants plastic bags, let me know and I’ll pick up some and deliver to your door.


34 posted on 12/12/2011 5:29:26 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: budwiesest

FFS. Texas IS Heaven. I came here to be in TEXAS. If I wanted San Fran, I’d go move to San Fran.

Why do these clowns come and take their nonsense here with them! Please! Leave TX be!


35 posted on 12/12/2011 5:31:10 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Jonx6
Austin is starving for programmers.

You can stop calling me now, Austin. I don't need the money.

36 posted on 12/12/2011 5:31:53 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

http://www.chrisforaustin.com/about/

Here’s a good example of an Austin councilman. He was part of the group who insisted on bike lanes down a crowded highway and showers for bicyclists at the (now radioactive)formula one racetrack 20 miles from Austin.

They also insisted on shrinking the parking lot to about half the needed size to force people into “green” (which doesn’t currently exist from what I can find) mass transit that they insisted on the race organizers paying for...why do socialists love mass transit so much?... and an organic garden spot in the middle of the track.

I’m not making this up.

Anyway, he’s like most of the non-minority members (They are a different story) and he lives in an area full of people just like himself. He’s not about to be recalled.


37 posted on 12/12/2011 5:33:12 PM PST by Quanah
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To: trumandogz

Thanks for the response. I went to the City’s web page and checked out the biographical information published by the mayor & council. Seemed to be quite a few academics and professional city government types. The city government seems out of step with the rest of Texas. (However, I should talk as I live in California where the entire state is to the left of Austin.)


38 posted on 12/12/2011 5:33:12 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: MrEdd

“According to any simple internet search, the evidence is in and this will indeed lead to a fair amount of food poisoning.”

Everytime the wife or nanny go to the Austin Whole Foods, they bring the cloth bags that have been washed in the laundry.

Each time I go, I forget the cloth bags and end up getting the plastic ones and use them to pick-up the dog’s poop.


39 posted on 12/12/2011 5:35:34 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: Jonx6

Here’s how popular I’m sure this is in Texas....


After the story:

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40 posted on 12/12/2011 5:37:38 PM PST by magritte
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To: Jonx6
Anyone know where I can buy disposable grocery bags in bulk? Just about every size-able flea market has a bag guy who sells in bulk to the vendors
41 posted on 12/12/2011 5:37:43 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Moose Alert!!!! Get some sleeves!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

And how ever goofy the city council is, Austin functions extremely well.

The unemployed rate is one of the lowest for a big city in the country, the city has one of the highest percentages of college grads and property values in the city have been stable or increased over the last several years.

A month or so ago when we had our first big rain in a long time, a pot hole developed on my street. I called the city and the pothole was fixed that very day.

Good city services.


42 posted on 12/12/2011 5:42:57 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: Jonx6

Austin: The San Francisco of Texas. Or, as I like to call it, Hanoi in the Hill Country


43 posted on 12/12/2011 5:53:27 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: trumandogz

I am not too familiar with Texas having been there only once and other than history and small business dealings I have little specific knowledge. Since Perry ran for President the good state of the Texas economy has come out. It looks like Austin is taking advantage of the State’s over all good fortune. Be careful, California was once rich and we have been taken over by a Third World coalition that is seizing and transferring wealth at a rapid rate. Our economy is about destroyed. People are leaving and Mexicans are moving in, thus our overall population has not declined. The problem with the Mexican reconquista being that they are unproductive-taking rather than giving. This will add to the rapidity of the on going California collapse! At any rate I’m glad you are doing ok. Just be vigilant.


44 posted on 12/12/2011 5:58:50 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Jonx6

It’s interesting that 4 new Super Walmarts will be built around Austin but not IN Austin. I know it will make a difference to me. Busy Bodies.


45 posted on 12/12/2011 6:02:15 PM PST by NTegraT (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Quanah
I saw only one minority councilman a guy named Martinez(If I remember correctly.) The Austin council seemed to be academics and professional City government types-which would be leftist in orientation.

Excuse my ignorance but is Austin a large university city? Such towns are usually leftist-thanks to the Supreme Court decision saying college kids could vote at their school rather than where their parents lived.

46 posted on 12/12/2011 6:05:34 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Jonx6

Fire them. Fire them all. Every one of the bastards responsible needs to leave public life immediately.


47 posted on 12/12/2011 6:05:34 PM PST by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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To: Jonx6

Easy solution for me. I’ll start shopping in Pflugerville and Round Rock.


48 posted on 12/12/2011 6:16:47 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Jonx6
When you get to the check out remove the absurd packaging from the products you are buying and leave it on the belt. Tell the check out operator you have new rules.

49 posted on 12/12/2011 6:26:07 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: Jonx6

Sigh.....

Austin. Texas’ very own piece of San Fransicko.


50 posted on 12/12/2011 6:27:41 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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