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Gun Goes Off at Checkpoint at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson Airport
opposingviews.com ^ | 12 December, 2011 | Mark Berman

Posted on 12/13/2011 3:51:17 AM PST by marktwain

A scare at the busiest airport in the world, as a gun goes off at a security checkpoint at Hartsfield-Jackson airport in Atlanta.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that TSA agents spotted a .22-caliber Magnum in a bag that was going through the x-ray machine on Sunday. It turns out the gun was loaded with small game pellet ammunition known as "snake" bullets.

An Atlanta police officer who responded to the scene was trying to unload the gun when it went off. No one was injured, but the officer wrote in his report:

“I was grazed by a pellet fragment on the left side of my face. However, there were no visible injuries.”

The man who owned the gun, 43-year-old Richard Popkin, said he didn't realize the gun was in his messenger bag.

Popkin was arrested and charged with carrying a weapon in an unauthorized place.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: airport; banglist; ga; tsa
These kind of inadvertent infractions should be investigated and punished with a small fine. If you carry firearms a good bit, and millions in the U.S. do, the occasional confluence of events that results in a lapse such as this is inevitable.

They will likely ruin this man's life because the police officer was not knowledgable enought to unload the derringer safely, or smart enough to ask the possible owner how to do it.

1 posted on 12/13/2011 3:51:25 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

It is not impossible to forget you have a gun when you carry it all the time. Example, my wife and I were being dropped off at an airport earlier in the year for a trip to Denver. Just as the car pulled away my wife realized she had her gun in her purse. I ran after the car that dropped us off and caught them before they got too far, passed them the gun and everything was fine.
But, what would have happened if she had not remembered when she did.......I told her I would try and see her every visiting day for sure.


2 posted on 12/13/2011 4:03:41 AM PST by Recon Dad (Autodidact in Gas & Petroleum)
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To: marktwain

Any police officer who cannot unload a weapon without it firing should return to a safe civilian job like cleaning toilets.


3 posted on 12/13/2011 4:06:28 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: Recon Dad

Similiar thing happened to me. Had a Walther PPS stowed in a holster inside my waistband. I wore the thing everyday so I was used to it. Walked all the way up to security and was about to get in line when it dawned on me. Had to walk all the way back out to my vehicle and left it there.


4 posted on 12/13/2011 4:08:47 AM PST by crghill (Silly Mormons, God is triune.)
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To: marktwain

Remind me not to be around this “Police Officer” when he’s unloading his service firearm. There is NO reason for a firearm to discharge unless you pull the trigger.


5 posted on 12/13/2011 4:09:59 AM PST by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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To: marktwain
An Atlanta police officer who responded to the scene was trying to unload the gun when it went off.

Aren’t LEOs supposed to be the well trained experts? I guess pulling the trigger is one way to unload a firearm but it’s not recommended.

6 posted on 12/13/2011 4:11:59 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: marktwain

I travel a lot and am constantly paranoid about this. To reduce my risk I never put my firearms in any bag I take to the airport. I also never put ammunition in them. So far its worked.


7 posted on 12/13/2011 4:13:04 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: RipSawyer

And he shot himself in the face. Was he looking down the barrel to see if it was loaded?


8 posted on 12/13/2011 4:14:56 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: marktwain
HA!
Years ago I was checking my deceased father's guns at the airline check-in and the attendant asked me to clear the weapons.
You should have seen the look in the couple's eyes next to us when I racked the shotgun (a Savage 12-gage).
9 posted on 12/13/2011 4:16:50 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: RipSawyer
Any police officer who cannot unload a weapon without it firing should return to a safe civilian job like cleaning toilets.

Police are often almost totally ignorant of firearms. A colleague of mine at work had his apartment broken into and firearms stolen. The cop that came to file the report called him a liar concerning what was missing because, "there is no such thing as a bolt action shotgun."

I shoot IDPA and very few of the police officers that come shoot (and God bless them for practicing) have either good form or competent marksmanship. Like I said, good for them for working on it, but I'm pretty sure they are the cream of the crop.

10 posted on 12/13/2011 4:17:58 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: crghill

People leave their wallets at home, lock their keys in the car, forget to pick up the kids from school, drive to work leaving the garage door open, forget the top is down on the convertible that’s parked in the driveway in the pouring rain........stuff happens all the time and always will.


11 posted on 12/13/2011 4:20:31 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Be good, Santa is coming)
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To: marktwain

Pellet in the face, rice grains in the arse ,,, he was channeling his inner Kerry. Give him a Purple Heart.


12 posted on 12/13/2011 4:20:35 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Centralization destroys the blight of monopoly")
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To: SampleMan
..."there is no such thing as a bolt action shotgun."

Mossberg, have one in 16 ga.

13 posted on 12/13/2011 4:43:15 AM PST by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: RipSawyer

As mentor Mas would say, ‘keep your booger hook off the bang button’.


14 posted on 12/13/2011 4:45:11 AM PST by toolman1401
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To: CPOSharky; SampleMan

I had one when I was about 13. I became a dead eye wing shooter with that shotgun


15 posted on 12/13/2011 4:46:18 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: CPOSharky
Mossberg, have one in 16 ga.

And .410, and 20, and 12, and 10. Bolt action shotguns have been common for at least 63 years.

16 posted on 12/13/2011 4:56:03 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Marlin also made them.


17 posted on 12/13/2011 5:11:06 AM PST by MindBender26 (Stop bothering me with minor issues. I'm too damn busy trying to save our country from Obamaism)
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To: R. Scott
And he shot himself in the face. Was he looking down the barrel to see if it was loaded?

"I wonder what happens when I stick my finger in the trigger while pointing the barrel to my face?"

18 posted on 12/13/2011 5:14:59 AM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: RipSawyer
Any police officer who cannot unload a weapon without it firing should return to a safe civilian job like cleaning toilets.

My brother was stopped last week by the police because the lights illuminating his tag were out. He had recently had his bumper on his truck replaced and the body shop didn't hook the lights back up. The cop asked for his license and proof of insurance. His insurance card was in the glove box as was his pistol. Knowing the cop might freak out and shoot him when he reached for his insurance card my brother informed the cop that both his pistol and insurance card were in the glove box and the cop asked if he (the cop) could get the pistol and unload it until their encounter was complete. My brother approved and the cop proceeded to try and unload the Colt Mustang sweeping my brother with the muzzle TWICE! My brother firmly said "Hey, you need to watch the muzzle!" After Barney got done endangering my brother's life he reloaded his pistol and replaced it in the glove box and sent him on his way. The moral is NEVER be around cops handling firearms; most seem poorly trained, and keep your insurance cards and pistol in separate places in your vehicle.
19 posted on 12/13/2011 5:30:10 AM PST by 762X51
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To: marktwain

“Popkin was arrested and charged with carrying a weapon in an unauthorized place.”

Whatever happened to the concept of criminal intent as being a necessary element before one is charged with a felony? What this man did is a tort.

We really are a fascist state. In a fascist state, people are arrested for offending the state, and no criminal intent is necessary.

How many Washington fascist pigs could we arrest for committing an error or having a lapse in judgment?


20 posted on 12/13/2011 5:47:27 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: R. Scott
And he shot himself in the face. Was he looking down the barrel to see if it was loaded?

He didn't want anyone else to get hurt.
21 posted on 12/13/2011 6:06:47 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: SampleMan

“Guns don’t kill people. Cops kill people.” - Joe “The Hole” Cole


22 posted on 12/13/2011 6:12:17 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: R. Scott

“The gun’s owner was telling Phillips how to clear the loaded .22 Magnum revolver when it was accidentally discharged, Phillips reported. “The weapon was pointed down towards the screening table.”


23 posted on 12/13/2011 6:19:10 AM PST by faucetman
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To: Recon Dad
I told her I would try and see her every visiting day for sure.

LOL! How many months did you sleep on the couch after that one? ;^)

24 posted on 12/13/2011 6:20:00 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: marktwain

From the descriptions, this might be the gun. Be advised, you have to page down through many HOT military chicks before you get to the gun photo.

http://sadclan.forummotion.com/t269-pentagon-commisionput-female-soliders-in-combat


25 posted on 12/13/2011 6:35:18 AM PST by faucetman
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To: 6ppc

I was probably the one going to jail after running down the street after the car that dropped us off, yelling “stop I’ve got a gun”!
Well maybe not exactly yelling that, but all this was taking place in Chicago and you know the way they feel about guns.


26 posted on 12/13/2011 6:41:35 AM PST by Recon Dad (Autodidact in Gas & Petroleum)
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To: faucetman

Maybe one of these

http://www.tabancatufek.com/forum2/showthread.php?tid=1612


27 posted on 12/13/2011 7:02:58 AM PST by faucetman
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To: marktwain

Pulling the trigger is one way of unloading it.


28 posted on 12/13/2011 11:52:50 AM PST by Hacklehead (Lets stop bashing Republican candidates and get back to bashing OBAMA.)
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To: marktwain
These kind of inadvertent infractions should be investigated and punished with a small fine. If you carry firearms a good bit, and millions in the U.S. do, the occasional confluence of events that results in a lapse such as this is inevitable.

They will likely ruin this man's life because the police officer was not knowledgable enought to unload the derringer safely, or smart enough to ask the possible owner how to do it.

I agree for the most part. Personally, I think a more sane solution would be to allow Americans to carry firearms pretty much anywhere, including airplanes. There is no benefit in having an aircraft full of disarmed sheep.

29 posted on 12/13/2011 1:10:51 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: 762X51
The cop asked for his license and proof of insurance. His insurance card was in the glove box as was his pistol. Knowing the cop might freak out and shoot him when he reached for his insurance card...

The better approach is to get your paperwork out of the glove compartment as soon as you pull over before the LEO sides up to your vehicle. You know the cop is going to ask for your insurance card and registration (unless you are an illegal Mexican in San Francisco), so why wait until the cop has his head in your window ready to over-react as soon as he sees your legal firearm.

30 posted on 12/13/2011 1:19:53 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Recon Dad
It is not impossible to forget you have a gun when you carry it all the time...

A responsible firearm owner should always know when and where they are carrying a firearm and should most certainly know whether there is a round in the chamber. If a person can't recall something as simple as this, then perhaps they shouldn't be carrying a firearm in the first place. No excuses.

31 posted on 12/13/2011 1:26:24 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: marktwain
They will likely ruin this man's life because the police officer was not knowledgable enought to unload the derringer safely, or smart enough to ask the possible owner how to do it.

This will probably ruin this man's life because he wsn't responsible enough to remove the loaded firearm from his bag before going through security. A responsible firearm owner always knows where his firearms are and whether they are loaded. No excuses.

32 posted on 12/13/2011 1:34:06 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: marktwain
You never know when you might need some snake bullets while traveling.


33 posted on 12/13/2011 10:04:18 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: faucetman

One heck of a ricochet. I can’t visualize it without a double bank.


34 posted on 12/14/2011 4:13:55 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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