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Newt Gingrich Praised SEIU Head Andy Stern's Forward-Looking Vision
Newt Gingrich's own book "Real Chance: From the World That Fails to the World That Works" | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 12/13/2011 6:31:59 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Newt Gingrich Praised SEIU Head Andy Stern's Forward-Looking Vision

In his book "Real Chance: From the World That Fails to the World That Works," Gingrich praises the SEIU head, who remains a close adviser of the President Obama. Pitching the need for conservatives to respect organized labor, while simultaneously pushing back against some of Labor's more cherished legislative goals, he wrote the following:

Conservatives cannot cheer unions overseas and then be blindly anti-union here at home. There are legitimate historic reasons for workers to organize together, and there is a strong need for a healthy, competitive, union, movement that helps improve the lives of its members and the competitiveness of our country.

Andy Stern, the head of the Service Employees International Union, is the union leader who probably best understands the challenge of the world market and the need to make American union members productive in the face of world competition. Sadly, he is a distinct minority among union leaders.



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I told you guys he was a progressive! The headline comes from the Huffington Post, Beck just read this on the air.

Below is the actual link, but it shouldn't be clickable. I put the quote from Huff Po into google, and that's how I came up with the link from Newt's actual book link above.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/12/newt-gingrich-union-seiu-andy-stern_n_1144164.html

1 posted on 12/13/2011 6:32:04 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Admin Moderator

Beck just read this on the air live, minutes ago. I know Huff Post isn’t normally something welcome on FR. But given the circumstances, and given that they’re really the only place that’s carrying this as of right now that I saw, other Freepers should be able to see this. I have the link from Gingrich’s book, so we’re not giving Huffpo web hits.


2 posted on 12/13/2011 6:33:02 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Yikes


3 posted on 12/13/2011 6:33:58 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Bye bye Hugo (Chavez)...He might smell sulphur slowly approaching.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Great. We’re going to nominate that POS Romney. MSM and Obama get their way. Again.


4 posted on 12/13/2011 6:36:29 AM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Newt praised Andy Stern?

Did he have anything nice to say about Richard Trumka?


5 posted on 12/13/2011 6:36:48 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Of all the reasons to think twice about Newt this is the most glaring to me.


6 posted on 12/13/2011 6:36:59 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Newt praised Andy Stern?

Did he have anything nice to say about Richard Trumka?


7 posted on 12/13/2011 6:37:01 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I simply don’t care. Romney is a pale Obama. Newt isn’t great, but he’s way better.


8 posted on 12/13/2011 6:38:37 AM PST by Lazamataz (That's all.)
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To: Inwoodian

This and his praise of FDR.


9 posted on 12/13/2011 6:39:26 AM PST by woweeitsme
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Anyone who has listened to Newts love of FDR “being able to get things DONE” should know! I want to beat Obama as badly as the next person...but we don’t need a BIG Gov’t Republican to do the job. Time to look a little further down the line


10 posted on 12/13/2011 6:40:37 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Newt is not getting his information about Conservatives cheering unions overseas from conservatives!


11 posted on 12/13/2011 6:41:10 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Inwoodian
Of all the reasons to think twice about Newt this is the most glaring to me.

I agree but look at our options. The mainstream press is trying to ensure we'll only be left with Romney. I don't think Newt is the best choice but he still beats O by a mile. For that matter, he beats Romney too.
12 posted on 12/13/2011 6:41:35 AM PST by Shannon
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Keep reading the passage, the meaning changes from what is insinuated by this snippit, IMHO. Not sold on Newt here, but these studid claims should be questioned.


13 posted on 12/13/2011 6:41:58 AM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Lazamataz

I simply don’t care. Romney is a pale Obama. Newt isn’t great, but he’s way better.

_________________________________________________

Are these the only alternatives in this primary??? Lets spread the votes around and hope for a brokered convention where Cain makes a come back. Notice Cain hasn’t endorsed anyone yet.


14 posted on 12/13/2011 6:43:11 AM PST by iontheball
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I didn’t read anything there that said he was a Progressive.

Now go find something else to hyperventilate over.


15 posted on 12/13/2011 6:43:27 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: Lazamataz

There are other candidates besides Mitt and McNewt. Let’s find a conservative and vote for him/her. Romney has zero chance of winning the nomination.


16 posted on 12/13/2011 6:44:55 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
RE :"I know Huff Post isn’t normally something welcome on FR.'

I notice that all the AOL news on AOL.com main page is posted at huffpost now. So clicking on the news article on AOL takes you to huffpost. It's annoying.

17 posted on 12/13/2011 6:45:05 AM PST by sickoflibs (Man we are screwed!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Beck also played audio of Newt saying FDR was the greatest president of the 20th century, because “he got things done”.

I'm still in the anybody but Obama category, but God help us if we trade one progressive in for another. Or cause such a riff that we drive too many into voting for a third party and end up with Obama again.

18 posted on 12/13/2011 6:45:25 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Red_Devil 232

So we weren’t cheering the Polish unions when they stood up to the communists?


19 posted on 12/13/2011 6:45:54 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The left attacks those who they fear.


20 posted on 12/13/2011 6:46:06 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I read several pages before and after this quote. I was taken aback at first. After reading the additional text, it becomes clear that he is not praising Andy Stern. He is merely pointing out that Stern “understands” the problems the unions are facing while other union leaders are oblivious. He does not condone anything or praise anyone. He just recognizes that Stern is more aware of the problems facing the unions.


21 posted on 12/13/2011 6:46:19 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Not to worry.

Gingrich is due to self-immolate anytime now.

He can't help himself.

22 posted on 12/13/2011 6:46:32 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemy’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Is there more to the quote than that? What's the drift of the entire chapter? After all, the book came out in 2007, so was probably written in 2006. It was published by Regnery -- if that's the tone of the book, hard to see why they would have accepted it or why their editors wouldn't have done something.

One sentence pulled out of context seems a frail reed to lean on!

23 posted on 12/13/2011 6:47:05 AM PST by maryz
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; cripplecreek

Hey, thanks for posting that book link within your Gingrich hatchet job!

Because now reasonable people with a brain who want to go beyond Glenn Beck sound bites and really understand the candidate can scroll UP in that e-book and see the CONTEXT of Gingrich’s quote, which is a withering attack on out-of-control unions!

In fact, the title of the section under which Beck’s out-of-context quote appears is: “An Unreformed Left Dominated By Unreformed Unions: A Codependency Of The World That Fails”.

Sounds like Newt has that about right!

Great job! Even if unwittingly so.


24 posted on 12/13/2011 6:47:33 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Did you bother reading any of the following paragraphs? Scathing indictment of GOVERNMENT WORKERS UNIONS.

Straw man arguments and GBTV cut and paste quotes without context.

Are we conservatives wanting to outlaw private sector labor unions? Of course not.


25 posted on 12/13/2011 6:48:08 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: woweeitsme
This and his praise of FDR.

And he was fond of Woodrow Wilson as well.

Gingrich claims to be a Wilsonian

26 posted on 12/13/2011 6:49:05 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Did you take the five minutes to read the rest of the section that you linked to?

It is clear in reading it that he sees big dangers in Unionization and is opposed to such things as "Card Check"

27 posted on 12/13/2011 6:49:14 AM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: Grunthor

Contrary to the MSM talk, this isn’t just a two person race. It’s still possible that another candidate will end up winning the nomination.

As posted here yesterday;

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2012_2008_gop_presidential_race_4_years_ago.html


28 posted on 12/13/2011 6:49:43 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I will support Newt over Romney, but don’t ask me to be happy about it. I’m still hoping somebody beside Ron Paul surges or an acceptable outsider jumps in.


29 posted on 12/13/2011 6:49:51 AM PST by umgud
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The left attacks those who they fear.

The left has been attacking Glen Beck pretty severely for quite some time. Now we see why.

30 posted on 12/13/2011 6:51:03 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: All; Halfmanhalfamazing
More from the source:

"As the unions have become less and less competitive in seeking members, and as unionized companies have become less and less able to flourish in a free market, their leaders have turned to an overtly political strategy of seeking and holding on to power in the narrowest sense. For union membership, those they can't persuade to join, they intend to coerce. For industries that supply union jobs but that can't deliver goods and services competitively, they seek to make monopolies without competition. What they can't earn in the marketplace they intend to win through political power and government control."

Agreed.
31 posted on 12/13/2011 6:51:44 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: iontheball
Are these the only alternatives in this primary???

We still have Bachmann. She is not backing down one bit right now.

OTOH, issues with unions:

1) Government Unions should be outlawed completely. 2) No union should be able to make it contractually impossible to fire an employee.

Other than that, if unions were gone entirely, would businesses begin to disrespect their employees again?

And I am not sure where he is getting the cheering for unions overseas stuff.
32 posted on 12/13/2011 6:51:53 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Let’s see the quote in context. Karl Marx had an insight into the challenges of the Industrial Revolution, that doesn’t mean that his answers were right.


33 posted on 12/13/2011 6:52:18 AM PST by Lou Budvis (Newt/Marco '12)
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To: Lazamataz

Yes, and a whiter shade of pale at that.


34 posted on 12/13/2011 6:55:06 AM PST by OKSooner (Today's new tagline. Tomorrow's new tagline pending.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; All
More from the source:

"For the government employee, the government-financed unions, and the trial lawyers, however, political power leading to legislative power is a matter of life and death. Thus over the last three decades there has been a steady growth of union and trial lawyer investment in politics and politicians. Ironically, the number of Americans who voluntarily join a union has been shrinking as union political power has been growing."

Agreed.
35 posted on 12/13/2011 6:55:10 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Lou Budvis

>> Let’s see the quote in context.

Click on the link in the original post, and you can: it takes you to a scrollable e-book.

You will be pleasantly surprised. :-)


36 posted on 12/13/2011 6:56:36 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Rational Thought

“Contrary to the MSM talk, this isn’t just a two person race.”

According to every poll I’ve seen; it is. The closest candidate to Newt and Romney is insane.

We’re f’d.


37 posted on 12/13/2011 6:56:42 AM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Beck just said to google Newt Gingrich and cass Sunstein here’s the first one I got:

October 02, 2011

WHY GINGRICH TARGETS OBAMA’S CZARS

By Sharon Sebastian - Website: www.DarwinsRacists.com

Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich vows that his first action, were he elected president, would be to sign executive orders eliminating Barack Obama’s vast cadre of unelected Czars. With the stroke of a pen, Gingrich would strike down Obama’s politburo consisting of 39 power-laden czars that make up the president’s shadow-government that threatens America’s prosperity, freedoms and sovereignty. Gingrich’s fixation on Obama’s Czars reveals the depth of understanding of the danger they pose to America and the personal freedoms of Americans. A review of Obama’s vast array of Czars and advisers reveals a handpicked collection of self-admitted Socialists, Marxists, Environmentalists and Globalists.

(I don’t know what to think anymore.)


38 posted on 12/13/2011 6:56:52 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: VanDeKoik

;)


39 posted on 12/13/2011 6:57:12 AM PST by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: iontheball
Notice Cain hasn’t endorsed anyone yet.

keep the volume on your news channel turned up today - jus' saying


40 posted on 12/13/2011 6:57:12 AM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: Grunthor

>> The closest candidate to Newt and Romney is insane.

Would that be Paul? Or Bachmann? ;-)


41 posted on 12/13/2011 6:57:48 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

BOTH mitt gingrich’s are PROGRESSIVE!!!...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMcjJEXt9To&feature=youtu.be


42 posted on 12/13/2011 6:58:27 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: umgud

You wrote: “I will support Newt over Romney, but don’t ask me to be happy about it. I’m still hoping somebody beside Ron Paul surges or an acceptable outsider jumps in.”

Me too. bttt

We still have HOPE:

Larry J. Sabato’s Crystal Ball
12/08/2011

2012 Republican Race: The Field May Not Be Closed

Conventional wisdom is that the Republican presidential field is set, and that it is much too late for a new candidate to enter the race.

In years past, that would be absolutely correct. Over the last few decades, dozens of primaries and caucuses have been shoe-horned into the opening weeks of the election year, with the tendency on the Republican side for the front-running candidate to score a quick knockout.

But next year, the arrangement of the primary calendar is much different. It is less condensed at the front, much more loaded with events at the back, with the prospect of a viable, late-starting candidate quite real.

[snip] Continue reading here: http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/

<><><><><>

Could Sarah Palin Still Get in the Race?

“.....Feb. 14 is the last day that a late entrant could enter the race and reasonably be expected to do well in subsequent races.

The scenario looks something like this: http://voices.yahoo.com/could-sarah-palin-still-race-10634503.html?cat=9

Here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/2818051/posts?page=19#19

<><>

Rush warns GOP not to pick candidate because they sound smart

The Right Scoop on Dec 12, 2011
Rush is convinced that Newt is high in the polls in part because he sounds very smart and has done well in the debates. But he says it’s not going to go well for us if we simply choose a candidate because they sound smart. In fact he says that once we get past the nomination, debates play a very small part in who becomes president:

VIDEO: http://www.therightscoop.com/rush-warns-gop-not-to-pick-candidate-because-they-sound-smart/

May 11th
http://theminorityreport.co/yid/category/rush-limbaugh-republican-jim-inhofeal-gorenancy-pelosiglobal-warming-john-kerry-newt-gingrich/

Newt makes no apologies for his support of the climate change myth, ——despite criticism from all over the right including Rush Limbaugh, who argued on his radio show that the former Georgia congressman had been aiding the “enemy.”———

<>

November 3, 2009

Top 10 Moderate GOP Moments: They All Lead to Our Losing and Democrats Winning
http://img.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110309/content/01125112.member.html

Dick Nixon resigning, Ford-Dole ‘76, Bush-Quayle ‘92, Dole-Kemp, Specter and Jeffords switching, Colin Powell endorsing Obama, —————Newt holding hands with Pelosi, Scozzafava, -————McCain 2008. .....
Why do people in our party allow themselves to be defined, manipulated, flaked, formed, shaped, whatever, by these Democrats?” ‘Cause they appease them. They want to be liked. They want to be accepted where they live, in Washington, DC, and in New York.

<>

Mon, 08 Jun 2009
Explaining Reagan to Newt: We’re Conservatives, Not Purists

Reagan attracted the moderates and independents. He didn’t pander. (Rush 24/7 Members: Listen)

“For the record, -——Newt and the rest of you in the Drive-By Media———, I’m not a ‘purist.’ I’m a conservative. Yeah, Reagan got a lot of independents and Democrats, but how? He didn’t pretend he was one of them! Colin Powell endorsed Obama at a strategic moment to harm McCain the most. If Powell is the model for the party, there’s no reason to ever vote Republican again.” -Rush

<>

1/19/2009
http://johnhames.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/rush-in-a-hurry-rush-refuses-to-join-the-obama-cult/

Last Man Standing: -——Unlike Newt and many other Republicans, Rush refuses to drink the Kool-Aid -—— and join the cult of Obama. If you oppose Obama’s agenda to socialize America and change it for the worse, why shut up? (Rush 24/7 Members: Listen Here)

<>

Monday, July 26, 2010
Conservatism Over Republicanism — The difference between Rush and Newt.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2010/07/26/total_stack_of_stuff

<>

September 14, 2010 The Limbaugh Rule: Vote for Most Conservative Candidate in Primary
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2815916/posts?page=193#193

RUSH: “.....Let me expand a little bit here on the Limbaugh Rule, which needs to take over from the Buckley Rule. You know, some of these people on our side — who all of a sudden now — lovingly invoke the Buckley Rule are the same people who told us, ——”The era of Reagan is over.”~ Newt Gingrich -—— Well, Bill Buckley and Ronald Reagan were inseparably good friends. Isn’t the era of Buckley over? Isn’t it amazing how selectively these people call up some of our heroes and use little slivers of what they’ve said or believed? Buckley ran against a RINO Republican for mayor of New York knowing full well he had no chance of winning. He violated his own rule then! “Buckley says you vote for the Republican most likely to win.” ...”

<>

Wednesday, May 18, 2011
The Newt of the ‘80s Wouldn’t Get Tangled Up in This Mandate Mess
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2721974/posts?page=6#6

RUSH: “....Then it all came to fruition when we won the House in 1994 and all these guys are sworn in, and they’re in the leadership of the House of Representatives. And all of us familiar with what had gone on in the eighties, the special orders, we’d blown the place up with the House bank and the House post office. We had exposed that, some of the most profound corruption around on the Democrat side. And it seemed like there would be nothing stopping this conservative advance.

And then, fast forward to a couple, three years ago -———and Newt Gingrich is among those saying the era of Reagan is over-———, and I can’t tell you how that devastated me. The one man who was single-handedly leading a movement to defend Reagan to the American people, who understood Reaganism as much as Reagan did, the economics of it, the social issue side, cultural side. Somebody like Newt who had once been able to articulate from the heart all those things he was saying, to say that the era of Reagan was over, it did not compute with me, because it’s never been over as far as I’m concerned. ....”

<>

November 23, 2011
Newt Says Let Illegals Stay, Drawing Raves from CNN Liberals for Having a Heart
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/11/23/newt_says_let_illegals_stay_drawing_raves_from_cnn_liberals_for_having_a_heart

“....You don’t just come up with idea after idea and throw your ideas out as policy. There’s a big difference in having an idea and having the idea become official policy.

This is what got Newt in trouble with the individual mandate. Out of the blue, “Oh, yeah, I think everybody ought to be forced to have skin in the game.” He probably hasn’t even thought about it, just off the top of his head, bammo, but it assumed it was official Newt policy. The same thing with global warming on the couch with Pelosi. Whatever the calculation was, it was of the moment. We’re talking about immigration. The fact is — and we’ve been over this countless times — you must first and foremost secure the border. Any non-enforcement approach is going to be a magnet. So, how would Newt do that? ....

.......Before we start talking about deportation or what to do with the people that are here and however long they’ve been here, we’ve got to secure the border. That remains the sieve. That remains the ongoing problem, national security problem, immigration problem. And so securing the border also means dealing with the pro-illegal alien lobby, and they’re big out there. A bunch of people who are pro-illegal alien who don’t want to secure the border.

So this has now become ———something that people are shooting at Newt at, which stands to reason, and I’m not criticizing anybody shooting at him for it.——— He’s put it out there, and he’s done it in a debate, first time anybody’s ever of heard of it now as a policy statement rather than idea. If Newt had said, “I have been thinking about this. One of the things I’m thinking about is,” and then mention this, “we have to think about it a little further,” it would be reacted to in an entirely different way last night and today. But the way he threw it out there, as full-fledged policy, -———okay, that means we can shoot at it.———— .....”


43 posted on 12/13/2011 6:58:27 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Your snippet is taken out of context. Why don’t you post the other things he said that were NOT at all favorable and NO, he is NOT a progressive.


44 posted on 12/13/2011 6:58:46 AM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
"...the union leader who probably best understands the challenge of the world market"

Sure he does; he wants to copy the Chinese economic "model"!

Newt is a gasbag; its only a matter of time before he explodes.

45 posted on 12/13/2011 7:00:11 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Eagle of Liberty
We still have Bachmann. She is not backing down one bit right now.

Bachmann couldn't carry her home state. At this point a vote for Bachmann is a vote for Romney. She knows it too. Too bad you don't.

46 posted on 12/13/2011 7:00:11 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Shannon

Conservatives would be smart to rally around Perry. He is a conservative DC outsider running! Wake up people!


47 posted on 12/13/2011 7:00:45 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Thanks for informing us that this is a plant
from the RomneyBOT Beck.

That make this another Romney dirty trick,
this time launched by the RomneyBOT Beck.


48 posted on 12/13/2011 7:00:45 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Shannon

Conservatives would be smart to rally around Perry. He is a conservative DC outsider running! Wake up people!


49 posted on 12/13/2011 7:01:12 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Nervous Tick

Well looking at the numbers, it’s Paul, and Michele just LOOKS crazy.

She’s got other issues.


50 posted on 12/13/2011 7:01:24 AM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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