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ACLU sues Wisconsin over photo ID law
Milwaukke Journal Sentinel ^ | 14 November 2011 | Jason Stein

Posted on 12/14/2011 1:27:50 AM PST by bjorn14

The American Civil Liberties Union sued the State of Wisconsin on Tuesday over a new law requiring voters to show government-issued photo identification, charging that the measure violates the U.S. Constitution.

The lawsuit says that the state is infringing on some citizens' right to vote and to be treated equally under the law and amounts to a kind of poll tax on voters who lack the documents needed to get an approved ID.

Republican lawmakers and Gov. Scott Walker, who is named in the lawsuit along with a long list of other state officials, have said they believe the measure will withstand a court challenge.

The action came Tuesday ahead of a scheduled speech by U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder in which he vowed to enforce civil rights protections amid a flurry of voter ID laws recently passed around the country. The Wisconsin lawsuit was filed in federal court in Milwaukee by the national ACLU and its Wisconsin affiliate and the National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty on behalf of a group of senior citizens, minorities and homeless residents.

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1 posted on 12/14/2011 1:27:53 AM PST by bjorn14
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To: bjorn14

What nonsense - don’t the poor who are accessing public assistance need some form of ID? If they don’t have it they shouldn’t be able to get assistance much less vote.


2 posted on 12/14/2011 1:29:21 AM PST by JMS
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To: bjorn14

ACLU—the enemy within.


3 posted on 12/14/2011 1:30:25 AM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: bjorn14

• From the Irony Department: Union Election Requires Photo ID
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2819974/posts
Hot Air ^ | December 13, 2011 | Rovin
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/12/13/from-the-irony-department-union-election-requires-photo-id/


4 posted on 12/14/2011 1:33:57 AM PST by Haddit (Heartless)
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To: bjorn14

If you are too stoned or crazy or stupid to get a photo ID then you should not be voting because then you are undoubtedly sucking down welfare and other tax monies


5 posted on 12/14/2011 1:34:14 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: bjorn14

they aren’t critics, they are liars.
So all they want is the current signature comparison? Is that their usual procedure?
They won’t admit real voters are disenfranchised (?) when even one person votes illegal.


6 posted on 12/14/2011 1:36:33 AM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

Actually...the better way to wrap this issue up is to create a bill which requires a mandated picture ID for any narcotic drug situation, voting purposes, any bank transaction at a bank itself or business, for entry into a hospital, for driving purposes, or for air or rail or cruise travel. Then you list the acceptable ID’s: military ID card, state drivers license, or the national passport card. The enticement is that you pump a billion into the state driver’s license system so that any idiot can come up and admit they just don’t have the money...so you give them a free driver’s license.


7 posted on 12/14/2011 1:59:52 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: bjorn14
It's free to get one for anyone who needs one. I think everyone who votes knows at least one other person who could take them to an office to get their picture taken, and show the necessary documents. You can get proof of citizenship/Birth Certificates, etc... online. In fact, I just ordered a BC for my daughter yesterday.
There is no way that this law interferes with a LEGAL person's right to vote. We also have vagrancy laws on the books. Have they petitioned to have those removed, too? You have to have a valid photo ID to have a job, or to use a bank, etc... etc... Do those things therefore violate someone’s civil rights? I think, not.

We NEED these laws to insure against voter fraud which is WAY more important than inconveniencing a few people. Anyone serious about voting, our Democratic Electoral System and being honest WANTS to see some sort of verification/Checks and Balances on ethics of the process.

The ACLU is verifying its position as a tool of political agendas by suing over this law. We have enough problems here in Wisconsin with Micky Mouse and Adolf Hitler being acceptable signatures on Recall Petitions as long as they are accompanied by a valid address. This according to the Government Accountability Board - totally inhabited by Democrat-aligned public-sector union employees with a clear personal agenda.

It's sickening and all of these people should be put in jail for their unethical dealings.

8 posted on 12/14/2011 2:04:07 AM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: pepsionice
...so you give them a free driver’s license.

There is no charge in Wisconsin to get the required ID to vote.
9 posted on 12/14/2011 2:08:23 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: pepsionice

I don’t think you need to give a drivers.

But a state-issued ID card that has security features, so people cannot get them copied.


10 posted on 12/14/2011 2:08:39 AM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, then he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: bjorn14
on behalf of a group of senior citizens, minorities and homeless residents

A senior citizen with no ID? I find that hard to believe.

Instead of spending money on lawyers, wouldn't their money be better spent by finding homes for those homeless?
11 posted on 12/14/2011 2:12:51 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: bjorn14

Absolute bs. Some kind of poll tax???? They will say anything.


12 posted on 12/14/2011 2:19:26 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: bjorn14

Gee, at one time the State of Nevada demanded a bc if you were out of state moving there regardless of whether you had a legal driver’s license from another state.


13 posted on 12/14/2011 2:22:00 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: bjorn14

From what I’ve seen, the photo ID cards are free to those who can’t afford one. How does that qualify as a poll tax except upon the taxpayers who pay for those who don’t?


14 posted on 12/14/2011 2:28:10 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: bjorn14

I routinely work as a precinct voting supervisor for our county during elections. While our state specifically says that we cannot ask for a photo ID, many voters voluntarily offer one up as they check in at the polling site. From a practical point, it really aids in the process of our clerks being able to more readily look up the voter’s registration information before they vote—thus speeding up the process. Many voters are amazed that we do NOT ask for photo ID.


15 posted on 12/14/2011 2:29:15 AM PST by Skybird
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To: bjorn14

ACLU protecting the democrats for their right to voter fraud...


16 posted on 12/14/2011 2:33:44 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: SMGFan

disenfranchised (?)....Get with it. That’s disenfrenchfried as one Obama supporter said on CNN.


17 posted on 12/14/2011 2:35:23 AM PST by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: JMS
In Augusta Georgia the Jim Brown Thanksgiving turkey give away required BOTH a photo ID AND a UTILITY bill and nobody complained, not even the ACLU. I think voting is more important than a dumb turkey!
18 posted on 12/14/2011 2:42:00 AM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: carcraft
Here in Georgia a women sued because she didn't have the correct ID to vote, or so she stated, the judge ask her to empty her purse and she had approved photo ID. This is all CR*p with a capital C!!
19 posted on 12/14/2011 2:45:44 AM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: bjorn14

Doesn’t the requirement actually gurantee equal treatment?


20 posted on 12/14/2011 2:50:42 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: bjorn14

Democrat operatives have the right to vote multiple times, under multiple names, whether those names are fictitious (as in “voters” registered at non-residence addresses) or those names belong to people who didn’t show up to vote.

I think the ACLU should be suing for the right for Republicans to do the same without fear of legal consequences.

Or they should drop the suit completely, and just admit what everyone knows: that their claims of supposed “disenfranchisement” are nothing more than cover for vote fraud. It would be nice, if the judge rules against them and states that outright in his/her legal opinion.


21 posted on 12/14/2011 3:00:34 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: bjorn14

This doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in Hell as the USSC decided it was constitutional in 2008 when the ACLU challenged Indiana’s Voter ID law.


22 posted on 12/14/2011 3:09:46 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: bjorn14
The action came Tuesday ahead of a scheduled speech by U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder in which he vowed to enforce civil rights protections amid a flurry of voter ID laws recently passed around the country.

Texas' new Photo Voter ID Bill currently sits on Eric Holder's desk awaiting his "review," as Texas (along with some other states) still is saddled by the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

23 posted on 12/14/2011 3:17:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: bjorn14
OMG!!! WHO the HELL doesn't have a Photo ID???

ALL they want is VOTER FRAUD to happen.

24 posted on 12/14/2011 3:41:29 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: bjorn14

ACLU Waging Lawfare on behalf of democrat voter fraud machine.


25 posted on 12/14/2011 3:48:32 AM PST by JewishRighter (ui)
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To: JewishRighter

Thank God the state of Wisconsin does not require an ID to buy liquor and tobacco. These old people, poor, homeless, and blacks would not be able to buy liquor and tobacco if Wisconsin did have such a law.


26 posted on 12/14/2011 4:08:05 AM PST by american_ranger
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To: bjorn14

It’s massive MSM backed election theft.

Maybe we need to bring in international election observers like they do in 3rd world pestholes.

Oh wait, we’ve turned into a 3rd world pesthole.


27 posted on 12/14/2011 4:25:16 AM PST by wolficatZ (The stupidest thing about television are the morons hitting the "ON" button.)
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To: JMS

They had to show ID to register in the first place. Was that unconstitutional as well?


28 posted on 12/14/2011 4:26:40 AM PST by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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To: bjorn14

“But how will we turn out the graveyard vote???”


29 posted on 12/14/2011 5:06:06 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: pingman
In Kalifornistan at least, no ID is required to register to vote. You can do it all by mail, postage paid. Just pick up a stack of forms, conveniently left at the DMV for all takers, and register as many times as you like at various vacant lots, old folks homes or flophouse hotels. (Anywhere you can grab the mail with the voter registration when it comes back from the state.) Then vote as often as you like. At no point does the state of Kalifornia verify any of the information, or ask for ID when a Rat votes in a dozen precincts.
30 posted on 12/14/2011 5:11:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SMGFan
So all they want is the current signature comparison? Is that their usual procedure?

Alas, it is worse than that. Before the law change all you did was state an address, then state a name living at that address. No signature, no ID. Oh, and if you can read upside-down, you don't even need the name ahead of time.

31 posted on 12/14/2011 5:24:01 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: american_ranger
Thank God the state of Wisconsin does not require an ID to buy liquor and tobacco. These old people, poor, homeless, and blacks would not be able to buy liquor and tobacco if Wisconsin did have such a law.

Hell, I need an ID to get cold medicine. Grrr.

32 posted on 12/14/2011 5:27:58 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: bjorn14

When is the ACLU going to sue the government on behalf of gun ownership and the governments regulations to control it? NJ agrees I have the right to own a gun and a right to carry but try to get that done. Owning a gun costs money and time and forget about carry. I have to prove someone actually tried to kill me before the process of carry even begins and then it would take months. Come on ACLU, look after my interests!


33 posted on 12/14/2011 5:31:22 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: bjorn14

Not showing your photo ID is ok as long as the ACLU will also sue over people having to show their ID to write a check or use a credit carc or buy booze.


34 posted on 12/14/2011 5:33:38 AM PST by Yaelle (Excuse the mobile device errors please.)
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To: bjorn14
a new law requiring voters to show government-issued photo identification, charging that the measure violates the U.S. Constitution.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

So where does the Constitution require photo ID or a permit to buy or carry a firearm??

35 posted on 12/14/2011 5:43:59 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: bjorn14

ACLU is running interference for the regime to clear the way in time to bus the union thugs and hoodrats from Chicago to “vote” in Walker’s recall and for 2012.


36 posted on 12/14/2011 6:01:05 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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Why doesn’t our side, start suing the ACLU?

Seriously. Why do we leave the agenda to communists?


37 posted on 12/14/2011 6:02:38 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: bjorn14
The American Civil Liberties Union sued the State of Wisconsin on Tuesday over a new law requiring voters to show government-issued photo identification, charging that the measure violates the U.S. Constitution.

Similar provisions have been upheld before. They know they'll lose. They just want a restraining order so that they can enable cheating during the recall attempt against Governor Walker.

38 posted on 12/14/2011 6:28:37 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Democrats are and always have been the Party of the Extremely Rich, the Party of Slavery.)
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To: Ann Archy

In fact in some states (i.e., MD) it is illegal to even walk around without ID.


39 posted on 12/14/2011 6:41:58 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: bjorn14
This is ridiculous! Should we go to the inked finger and scrap absentee ballots. Anyone caught with a dyed finger and no citizenship goes to jail. We are so scroood.
40 posted on 12/14/2011 6:42:47 AM PST by lula (Anyone but Zero)
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To: bjorn14

Isn’t funny that the Guardian UK, one of the sleaziest rags in History behind Pravda and Hitler’s newspapers, allow comments on EVERYTHING!!!................ Except anything that makes Democrats or minorities look bad!


41 posted on 12/14/2011 6:43:49 AM PST by Dengar01 (Dengar01 - "Heartless" since 1983!!!)
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To: bjorn14

A few years back in the liberal bastion I reside in I walked up to the voter check-in-hag and flashed her my drivers license. The look of horror on her face almost made me burst out laughing. She said “I don’t need to see that” and shockingly looked away. So, naturally, I shoved it back at her and said “shouldn’t make sure it’s actually me?” to which she replied “No! Please put that away.”

The smirk on my face really p’d off pretty much everyone there. It made my day!

I think we should ALL consider doing this next election cycle just to make a point.


42 posted on 12/14/2011 7:12:18 AM PST by bridgemanusa (loan MA Conservative)
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To: bjorn14

Photo IDs are a form of identification. Unless the law says that some people, because of ethnicity, sex, age, cannot have them, then how can they be unconstitutional? If photo IDs are unconstitutional, then asking for any form of identification for voting is unconstitutional.


43 posted on 12/14/2011 7:38:12 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Brown Deer

The Dem Party could easily establish a hotline for people with no photo IDs to call, and the party could make sure they get one. But of course, that is not what they want. They know with the current system, they get virtually all of the illegal votes. They do not want to change that system. In short, voter IDs would diminish the numbers of illegal votes they get every election from dogcatcher to president.


44 posted on 12/14/2011 7:42:46 AM PST by driftless2
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To: bjorn14

Where is the ACLU lawsuit against the Obamacare requirement that citizens must purchase health insurance ,a measure that also violates the U.S. Constitution ??


45 posted on 12/14/2011 8:00:43 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: dennisw
If you are too stoned or crazy or stupid to get a photo ID then you should not be voting because then you are undoubtedly sucking down welfare and other tax monies

EVEN if you apply for the much vaulted DEM icon - food stamps - you must show ID.

What personal forms and information are needed to enroll? Prior to being certified, your clients must provide their physical identification and a Social Security number or proof that they have applied for one if they do not have one. Food Stamp Application/Interview Process

The ACLU and its ilk truly are the 5th column in America.
46 posted on 12/14/2011 8:11:49 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: bjorn14

The Supreme Court already ruled the Indiana and Georgia Voter ID Laws as constitutional. How much different is the Wisconsin Law from those.


47 posted on 12/14/2011 9:00:55 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: JMS

Exactly.


48 posted on 12/14/2011 9:06:10 AM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: bjorn14
I feel quite confident when I predict the ACLU will spend more on this legal action than if they set up a fund to subsidize those who must buy documents to prove their identity and cannot afford to do so.

That is the only part of the suit that makes even the slightest sense - the burden on the (tiny) number of people who have no photo-id, do not have any birth certificate or other acceptable proof of identity, and cannot afford to obtain the documents.

But the ACLU fails to note that equal protection also requires that my vote not be nullified by a fraudulent voter casting a vote multiple times. And since Wisconsin has election-day registration, with NUMEROUS holes in it (including a provision one can register to vote without ANY documentation if there is someone to corraborate that you live in the state), allowing voting without ID virtually assures that there will be fraud.

49 posted on 12/14/2011 9:24:51 AM PST by In Maryland ("Truth? We don't need no stinkin' truth!" - Official Motto of the Main Stream Media)
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To: bjorn14
I have an idea: if you don't have the documents for a regular ID, go to the nearest police station. There, you fill out a form giving your name, address, and signing that the above is true and that you are a citizen eligible to vote, under penalty of felony perjury. The police then take your picture AND your fingerprints, and issue you your temporary voting ID card.

Now here's the kicker: the info is available to anybody who asks. Any private individual can then check that you really are who you say you are, and if you gave false info then your picture and fingerprints get assigned to an arrest warrant.

50 posted on 12/14/2011 9:25:53 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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