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Climate change: the risk of waiting for proof (barf alert)
quad community press ^ | 12-14-11 | Cindy Ojczyk

Posted on 12/14/2011 5:36:29 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB

Should we act on climate change now or wait? While an international majority of scientists believes climate change is real, a minority of scientists and majority of politicians want you to wait. After all, behavior change should not be mandated or government regulated - especially without proof.

UBS Wealth Management, a financial services company working with high/ultra high net worth clients, published a comprehensive report to its investors in January of 2007 titled "Climate Change: Beyond Whether." Its findings suggest we can follow one of three paths: 1) Take a wait-and-see approach 2) Act now and risk investment if nothing happens or 3) Act now and gain the reward of planning for change. The 106 pages detail the science of climate change, the economics of climate change, global policy and regulatory environment, and investment risks and opportunities.

Wait and see? If the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is right, how will you, your house, your homeowners' insurance, your community, and your business/employer/job fare if we continue to experience a rise in extreme weather events like tornadoes, floods and hail?

Act now and risk investment if nothing happens? According to the GSA (General Services Administration) website, the "GSA will eliminate its impact on the natural environment and use its government-wide influence to reduce environmental impact of the federal government." GSA is the independent arm of the U.S. government that purchases products and services, owns and leases office space, and runs fleet vehicles for all federal agencies.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: climate; cooling; doom; green; hoax; ipcc; proof; warming
local rag giving free reign to the WARMongers.again.
1 posted on 12/14/2011 5:36:39 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB
While an international majority of scientists believes climate change is real

Yeah, it's what sane people call WEATHER!

2 posted on 12/14/2011 5:42:27 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage
Cindy certainly has a face for radio.....


3 posted on 12/14/2011 5:45:17 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I’m still trying to figure out how global warming will melt enough ice to raise the seas over the entire planet two feet.


4 posted on 12/14/2011 5:49:24 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Let’s fire Obama NOW, because the risk of waiting for “proof” that he’s destroying America is TOO HIGH!


5 posted on 12/14/2011 5:51:23 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Fascinating.

A major principle of the enviro movement is the Precautionary Principle, which is that if there is a chance of a change in policy causing harm, you should not make that change until you have proven the harm won’t occur.

Here the writer is recognizing that refusing to make a change may also have a cost, something they usually reject.


6 posted on 12/14/2011 5:51:38 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: WOBBLY BOB

What if, the planet is not warming. What if it is actually going to cool, just like it has done in the past. What if you leave humanity completely unprepared for the cooling ? Progressives never ever stop to contemplate that they could be flat out wrong. Always progressing forward with no self reflection. Whatever makes them feel good, apparently.


7 posted on 12/14/2011 5:52:49 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Puppage

I had written her a note on her super sweet website, but didn’t want to start a cat fight. Mentioned the “fact” that Minnesota was under a glacier until the industrial revolution, right?

Couldn’t do it. According to my psych texts, she won’t listen anyway.

Psych texts are very liberal and the global warming, population control and pollution groups use social psychology to their advantage.


8 posted on 12/14/2011 5:52:49 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Why don’t we just start tossing virgins into volcanos to placate Goddess Gaia?

I mean, it might be too late if we wait.


9 posted on 12/14/2011 5:54:33 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

If only we had some sort of “Environmental Solutions Agency”. /s


10 posted on 12/14/2011 5:54:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Puppage

She looks like Cherie Blair. Thinks like her too.


11 posted on 12/14/2011 5:56:14 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: huldah1776
Psych texts are very liberal and the global warming, population control and pollution groups use social psychology to their advantage.

The co author of Newt's first global warming book and one of the co authors of his upcoming global warming books, (Terry Maple) lists "environmental psychology" as one of his specialties.
12 posted on 12/14/2011 5:58:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

With this logic we should all begin chemotherapy treatments for cancer.


13 posted on 12/14/2011 6:00:39 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Only government can fix the climate and only government knows what the right temperature for the planet is. Do I need sarcasm tags?


14 posted on 12/14/2011 6:02:59 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: cripplecreek

“The co author of Newt’s first global warming book and one of the co authors of his upcoming global warming books, (Terry Maple) lists “environmental psychology” as one of his specialties.”

Makes me want to get a conservative social psychologist (if there is such a person) to look at Newt’s campaign and see if it isn’t just applications of getting sheople to vote for him. As a matter of fact his NON-aggressive responses in the beginning were very “cooperative” a BIG part of social psychology vs being competitive.

Beeedddy interestink.


15 posted on 12/14/2011 6:13:55 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: WOBBLY BOB
I'm not opposed to so-called "green" designs for buildings, as long as they're not legislated. Saving energy can also save money, except that we are now caught in a dishonest web where saving energy results in utilities asking for and getting rate hikes to make up for lower energy sales.

No money saved. Nice government scam we've let happen.

16 posted on 12/14/2011 6:13:55 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The Reptilians from Epsilon Eridani might invade with their death rays and the risk of not spending 150% of Earth’s GDP to prepare for the Invasion is simply not worth it.


17 posted on 12/14/2011 6:16:52 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: huldah1776

Katherine Hayhoe is another co author of the book. She also authored “A climate for change”. She pushes climate change on traditional skeptics “Christians”.

http://katharinehayhoe.com/

Manipulators all.


18 posted on 12/14/2011 6:19:10 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL!! Good luck finding one!!


19 posted on 12/14/2011 6:28:52 AM PST by refermech
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To: WOBBLY BOB
"The risk of waiting for proof..."

Ahh yes, you see it's not the lack of evidence which is important, it is the seriousness off the claim. (to paraphrase Limbaugh)

20 posted on 12/14/2011 6:38:34 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: Puppage

Quick, somebody buy her a vowel, for gosh sakes...


21 posted on 12/14/2011 6:45:28 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“Wait and see? If the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is right, how will you, your house, your homeowners’ insurance, your community, and your business/employer/job fare if we continue to experience a rise in extreme weather events like tornadoes, floods and hail?”

One wonders how the great climate change mitigators such as solar array farms and wind turbine fields will stand up to such extreme weather events as hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and hail.


22 posted on 12/14/2011 6:59:02 AM PST by Patron92
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To: exit82

“I’m still trying to figure out how global warming will melt enough ice to raise the seas over the entire planet two feet.”

I’m still trying to figure out what they are going to do if they cool the planet too much.


23 posted on 12/14/2011 7:01:03 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Shall we shoot ourselves in the head now or later ?

The warmers need to understand that their HOAX has been exposed. All this “the majority of scientists” crap is a lie. Their ‘puter models are NOT reality, and so far have been entirely wrong in their predictions.

Globull warming is simply a ruse to cover the imposition of world socialism. Nothing more, nothing less.


24 posted on 12/14/2011 7:30:14 AM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Sherman Logan

anyone quoting the IPCC as gospel truth and being without an agenda is not to be trusted nor believed.


25 posted on 12/14/2011 8:01:46 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: BfloGuy

IIRC, the University of Michigan used to have some full-size “green” home experiment and it all fell apart and cost an arm and a leg.

I’m betting the author of this piece has a vested monetary business interest in the gubmint forcing these green standards on municiple buildings.


26 posted on 12/14/2011 8:08:06 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

To become green the owners of our office buildings hired some immigrants to rope down the building and screw all the windows shut from the outside.


27 posted on 12/14/2011 8:11:59 AM PST by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Travis McGee
Why don’t we just start tossing virgins into volcanos to placate Goddess Gaia?

If we use mooselimb virgins we will placate two deities with each virgin sacrifice.

Gaia will be happy with the virgins and allah will be happy because he is preserving virgins for his warriors.

A win/win or one virgin in the volcano is better than two mooslimbs with a Bush.

28 posted on 12/14/2011 9:56:55 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: cripplecreek

These psychologists could very well be manipulating NEWT! LOL Could be the reason for the incongruities. Very scary.


29 posted on 12/14/2011 11:03:03 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: cripplecreek

Manipulators...

I have a final today in social psychology. The mission:

“Emphasis on Application: Applying social psychology to practical issues regarding health, law, work settings, and environmental issues.”

Straight quote from Pearson Study Card. Not only is Newt being manipulated, but SO ARE THE VOTERS. Why wouldn’t Newt use these same principles to get elected?????

He sees how the environmentalists get everyone to recycle, to keep OSHA standards, kill the unborn (the most horrific), and vote for law changes.

I BET MY BOTTOM NICKEL that is how he got his CONTRACT FOR AMERICA through the first time. Using these manipulations NEWT could very well take over.


30 posted on 12/16/2011 3:42:16 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

Crowd psychology has always been an interest of mine. I’ve spent a lot of years watching people and I have a pretty good idea of how easily people can be manipulated.

I’ve studied Edward Bernays pretty extensively and his methods work as well as when he got Americans to eat bacon, showed Americans that Calvin Coolidge was a regular guy who eats pancakes for breakfast, or as well as they did when Joseph Goebbels manipulated Germans into slaughtering Jews by the millions.

We see the same old crowd manipulation methods around us all the time.


31 posted on 12/16/2011 4:39:00 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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