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New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote
NBC Connecticut ^ | 12/14/2011

Posted on 12/14/2011 5:52:21 AM PST by Puppage

New Haven Mayor John DeStefano plans to ask the state Legislature to allow illegal immigrants who live in the city to be able vote in municipal elections.

DeStefano said on Tuesday that the proposal would build a more engaged community and follows the lead of other cities, the New Haven Register reports.

The Register reports that 10,000 to 12,000 undocumented residents are believed to live in New Haven.

Immigrants who are in the U.S. legally or illegally and cannot vote now would still be unable to vote in state or federal elections.

DeStefano, a Democrat, said illegal immigrants pay taxes indirectly through rent and send their kids to New Haven schools and should be able to vote.

New Haven made national headlines in 2007 when the city approved a program that provides municipal identification cards for all residents -- including illegal immigrants -- to provide access to services such as banking and the library.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: aliens; bluezones; borderwars; destefano; illegalsvote; mayor; newhaven; sanctuarycities; stockpilesong
Good Bye, America....We hardly knew ye.
1 posted on 12/14/2011 5:52:30 AM PST by Puppage
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To: Puppage

So it starts.

This is important to keep in mind when listening to Newt’s “lets legalize all illegals who have been law-abiding citizens” BS. This is happening all over the country, bit by bit, and supported by DOJ and Obama admin.

Amnesty is the most defining issue of our lifetime. If we surrender, it is over. Permanently.

Everything else can be changed later.


2 posted on 12/14/2011 5:55:16 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: Puppage

Imagine - a democrat asking that voting rights be granted to noncitizens! Regardless, it will never fly ...


3 posted on 12/14/2011 5:57:35 AM PST by Ken522
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To: Puppage

Their proposal doesn’t go far enough. Why should people have to live there to get a vote?


4 posted on 12/14/2011 5:59:21 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: Ken522

“it will never fly ...” I wouldn’t be so sure. Power (winning elections) is more important to those that have been elected.


5 posted on 12/14/2011 6:01:25 AM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: Puppage

WHAT?! This is absurd.


6 posted on 12/14/2011 6:03:17 AM PST by LBG11
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To: Puppage
New Haven Mayor John DeStefano plans to ask the state Legislature to allow illegal immigrants who live in the city to be able vote in municipal elections.

Hey, DeStefano, what don't you understand about "illegal"?
Are you Dems that scared of the next election? Sure sounds like it to me.

7 posted on 12/14/2011 6:04:25 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Puppage

Permission unnecessary because it is illegal (un-PC) to demand proof of eligibility to vote.


8 posted on 12/14/2011 6:05:29 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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9 posted on 12/14/2011 6:05:48 AM PST by bcsco
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To: Puppage

Very encouraging!

And folks wonder why I point out a distinction between Real Americans and AINOs!

Semper Why!
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10 posted on 12/14/2011 6:07:08 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Puppage; All
This is outrageous!

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11 posted on 12/14/2011 6:07:20 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Puppage

Isn’t not paying taxes (of any sort) illegal?

If so, we taxpayers should immediately stop sending money into the government (at all levels), thereby earning the coveted status of “illegal” and the attendant protection of RAT politicians.


12 posted on 12/14/2011 6:07:56 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Once they've called you a racist, you've got nothing to lose.)
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To: philman_36
Hey, DeStefano, what don't you understand about "illegal"?

They'd only be classified "illegal" if their voting habits tended Republican.

13 posted on 12/14/2011 6:09:13 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: mtnwmn

““it will never fly ...” I wouldn’t be so sure. Power (winning elections) is more important to those that have been elected.”
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Yeah, right!

Like the Zip Code was gonna be just optional, etc. etc.

Semper BS!
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14 posted on 12/14/2011 6:10:13 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: heiss
Well why stop there, why not send absentee ballots to Iran and let them have a say in our government too. I'm sure ImAnutJob would participate.

Think about it ... what's the difference?

15 posted on 12/14/2011 6:10:15 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: afnamvet; TheOldLady; BuckeyeTexan; Glenn; Cheerio; fuzzthatwuz; Cap Huff; aragorn; HOYA97; ...
A whole 'nother thang....


16 posted on 12/14/2011 6:11:05 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Puppage

“Kids pay sales tax on candy .... they should be allowed to vote!” ~DeStupido


17 posted on 12/14/2011 6:12:01 AM PST by mikrofon (Juvenile Logic)
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To: Puppage

Are you kidding me? WTF, New Haven. What a bunch a loons.


18 posted on 12/14/2011 6:12:59 AM PST by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: Puppage

I pay taxes in the city where I work but don’t live however I cannot vote there.

Meanwhile they’ll do anything do discredit the military vote.

Why have a country at all?


19 posted on 12/14/2011 6:13:19 AM PST by TSgt (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Puppage
What is it about sovernty that the left wing nuts don't understand or is it a case that the loathe it?
20 posted on 12/14/2011 6:16:45 AM PST by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: philman_36

And at the Federal level, even LEGAL immigrants can’t vote, though I guess some local and state elections do allow them to vote.

Maybe we ought to go back to only property owners can vote.


21 posted on 12/14/2011 6:19:49 AM PST by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: Puppage

Setting precedent, one step at a time, one vote at a time.

Allow this and next will be county elections, then state elections, then national elections.

==

There was also a recent thread that was somewhat ironic: some/many SEIU locations require photo IDs for union elections, but they are against photo IDs for national [as in presidential] elections. Go figure ...


22 posted on 12/14/2011 6:24:00 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Betis70

They pay taxes indirectly through rent? How do we know that? It’s not like they’re documented tenants. If New haven schools get any Federal Aid then I as a Federal taxpayer should get to vote there as well.


23 posted on 12/14/2011 6:24:30 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Puppage
DeStefano, a Democrat, said illegal immigrants pay taxes indirectly through rent and send their kids to New Haven schools and should be able to vote.

According to that "logic", New Haven should require all stores to hand out voter registration certificates to anyone from anywhere who shops in a New Haven store, because they are paying taxes indirectly through their purchases, and they are residing in the city during the time when they are shopping there.

(Guess that would leave me out - I avoid New Haven like the plague, because the city is run by thieving Democrat idiots - but I repeat myself.)

24 posted on 12/14/2011 6:29:04 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Puppage

Interestingly, there’s a word for this: Treason.


25 posted on 12/14/2011 6:29:16 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny ("Fair share" are the last two words I hear before I stop taking someone seriously.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Well why stop there, why not send absentee ballots to Iran and let them have a say in our government too.

Not so far fetched.

IIRC, it was Orin Hatch (R-UT) who was advocating allowing foreigners to vote in US elections. And IIRC, he was also one of those advocating that foreign-born should be allowed to run for the presidency. That was in the early days of The Arnold's victory in the California governor's election.
26 posted on 12/14/2011 6:30:03 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Puppage

In case somebody doesn’t know: New Haven is the home of Yale University. That should explain a lot.


27 posted on 12/14/2011 6:31:39 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: Puppage
DeStefano, a Democrat, said illegal immigrants pay taxes indirectly through rent and send their kids to New Haven schools and should be able to vote.They stick 4 families in a 2 bedroom apt. and send their kids to our schools, taking full advantage of all our free services...yes, that includes breakfast, lunch, and a late afternoon snack...so that our citizens, who really are paying, don't get in the programs because they are full with non English speaking kids! GRRRRRR!

Now they are going to vote so they can vote themselves more free stuff! Damn, this starts my day off bad!

28 posted on 12/14/2011 6:32:15 AM PST by CAluvdubya
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To: massgopguy

Excellent point. Just because they ‘renters’ doesn’t mean they pay any tax. Section 8 housing people (for example) pay next to nothing, and in fact are a net drain all the way around on the tax base—they use more benefits, have their kids in school, and much of their housing is paid for by Fed tax money sucked out of the rest of us.


29 posted on 12/14/2011 6:35:01 AM PST by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: Puppage

Does that mean we can go to, say, Mexico or Canada and cast a vote in THEIR elections

How f’ing stupid this is!!!

These creeps need to get a grip


30 posted on 12/14/2011 6:35:54 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Puppage

New Haven is swarming with leftists, gun-toting thugs, and illegals. New Haven’s per capita murder rate puts it among the country’s most dangerous places. Yale University’s “Law Center” has made it their business to punish the police forces of surrounding communities for “profiling”. In an ideal world those surrounding communities would be setting up check points, mortar batteries, and deportation centers. New Haven is a City of Evil.


31 posted on 12/14/2011 6:37:38 AM PST by BillyBonebrake
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To: Puppage
Let me try this again with closed tags!

DeStefano, a Democrat, said illegal immigrants pay taxes indirectly through rent and send their kids to New Haven schools and should be able to vote.

They stick 4 families in a 1 bedroom apt. and send their kids to our schools, taking full advantage of all our free services...yes, that includes breakfast, lunch, and a late afternoon snack...so that our citizens, who really are paying, don't get in the programs because they are full with non English speaking kids! GRRRRRR!

Now they are going to vote so they can vote themselves more free stuff! Damn, this starts my day off bad!

32 posted on 12/14/2011 6:39:06 AM PST by CAluvdubya
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To: SMARTY
Does that mean we can go to, say, Mexico or Canada and cast a vote in THEIR elections?

Nope, both countries have tough election laws and forbid non-citizens to vote. Hell, it is illegal in Mexico for a non-citizen to become involved in political activities in the country (This is noted in Mexico's immigration laws).
33 posted on 12/14/2011 6:53:33 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Puppage
DeStefano, a Democrat

No reason to say any more.

34 posted on 12/14/2011 6:58:59 AM PST by D Rider
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To: rightwingcrazy
Why should people have to live there to get a vote?

Seriously, I had an engaging debate with a Danish eurotwit who honestly wanted all non US citizens of the world - although his examples were only about Europeans - to have legal voting rights in US elections on the grounds that the things that the US does impacts them either directly or indirectly. :)

It all came to an abrupt end when I wrote "sure - as soon as 300 million Americans get to vote in Danish elections"

This guy was very serious...

35 posted on 12/14/2011 7:12:03 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Puppage
So...Georgia's been doing that for years.

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36 posted on 12/14/2011 7:26:03 AM PST by Dick Bachert (Obozo deserves another term: IN LEAVENWORTH. 25 to life sounds about right!)
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To: Puppage
"DeStefano, a Democrat"

That's all you need . . .

37 posted on 12/14/2011 7:53:10 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon (Spreading the Wealth, one dollar at a time)
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To: Puppage

“DeStefano, a Democrat”

Says it all. They Got their Obama Agenda and it’s got Them even More despised than Before they got it.

Without Illegals to pander to, they got Bupkiss, and they just keep applying what Got them despised in the first place: Stupidity and Criminality.


38 posted on 12/14/2011 7:56:43 AM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: TSgt
I pay taxes in the city where I work but don’t live however I cannot vote there.

Similar situation here -- I live in one state and work in another. I pay state taxes where I work, but can't vote there.

Taxation without representation, plain and simple.

But if I was illegal, I guess I could vote anywhere I damn well please.

39 posted on 12/14/2011 8:03:23 AM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Puppage
I had ancestors who died so that Americans, Americans, could be free to vote and now this asswipe wants to hand the franchise to anything that can invade our shores and cross our borders?

He's not just wrong, he's something beyond wrong.

40 posted on 12/14/2011 8:03:35 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: algernonpj

I’ve been voting in Connecticut for over forty years, never missed an election and I’ve always had to produce a state-issued picture ID to vote. The poll worker is often a friend of mine and I still have to produce an ID. Never had to prove citizenship however.


41 posted on 12/14/2011 8:06:55 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: rightwingcrazy
“Their proposal doesn’t go far enough. Why should people have to live there to get a vote?”

The dead own property (their graves), so why shouldn't they be able to vote. The city government should be able to discern who and what they would vote for, and cast the ballot absentee for them.

42 posted on 12/14/2011 8:15:17 AM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: Puppage

How about Felons? How about the Children? After all its all for them. How about My sister who lives in Norway and Has Dual citizenship,but has never lived here,she pays taxes when she visits,she should vote.


43 posted on 12/14/2011 9:56:32 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Betis70
Maybe we ought to go back to only property owners can vote.
It shouldn't have ever been changed from that.

Note: I would amend that to all property owners and not just "white" property owners as it was back in the day.

44 posted on 12/14/2011 10:28:24 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: mtnwmn

This is CT, which is run almost entirely by Democrats and/or RINOS.


45 posted on 12/14/2011 11:44:03 AM PST by matt04
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