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Reagan Admired FDR Too
spectator.org ^ | 12/14/2011 | AARON GOLDSTEIN

Posted on 12/14/2011 4:28:27 PM PST by TBBT

Quin Hillyer's latest salvo against Newt Gingrich concerns his long standing admiration for Franklin Delano Roosevelt. To be precise, he is miffed that Newt called FDR "the greatest President of the 20th Century." Ah yes, let's place Newt under arrest right away for expressing such heretical thoughts. Yet I seem to recall that one Ronald Wilson Reagan voted for FDR not once, not twice, not thrice but four times. That's right. Four times!!! Reagan's admiration for FDR hardly dimmed even as he became America's preeminent conservative voice. At a White House tribute in honor of FDR in 1982, Reagan hailed the 32nd President as "one of history's truly monumental figures," "an American giant, a leader who shaped, inspired, and led our people through perilous times." Somehow I don't think the Gipper would have faulted Newt for his admiration of FDR.

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More fodder for Newt derangement syndrome...
1 posted on 12/14/2011 4:28:36 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

Well, Reagan WAS a Democrat when Newt was in diapers.


2 posted on 12/14/2011 4:31:27 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: TBBT

Yes but....


3 posted on 12/14/2011 4:32:59 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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To: TBBT
Reagan Admired FDR Too

Ok, and...?

Seriously, FDR was a very effective wartime strategist. Even i admire that. But he also extended the depression, centralized power, and generally never saw a overbearing socialist policy he didn't like.
4 posted on 12/14/2011 4:34:16 PM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: arderkrag
I am so sick of the Media and Karl Rove knocking off every GOP candidate until we get Mitt.
5 posted on 12/14/2011 4:36:55 PM PST by scooby321
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To: arderkrag

Upon FDR winning his fourth election for President, some started calling him “King Franklin the First.”


6 posted on 12/14/2011 4:37:59 PM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: TBBT

Please send that to Rush...he went after Gingrich on this today


7 posted on 12/14/2011 4:38:45 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: TBBT

FDR was America’s dictator.


8 posted on 12/14/2011 4:39:05 PM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: TBBT

Most people admire FDR who dealt with WWII while having disabilities. I admire him for certain things while disagreeing with him on domestic programs. Yes - it is possible to admire someone for certain things and hating them for others. That is the case with Newt Gingrich as well.


9 posted on 12/14/2011 4:40:15 PM PST by plain talk
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To: BigSkyFreeper

The democrat party of that era was not as radical as the Obamanites and Clintonites of today.


10 posted on 12/14/2011 4:40:15 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: arderkrag

“Ok, and...? “

...and RR admiration for FDR didn’t seem to dim his capacity to be a good President, which may also be true of Newt. Which, I think, was the point of the article?

Ironically, it also points out that some of our most flawed were also some of our best POTUS’s. Except that bastard Clinton.


11 posted on 12/14/2011 4:40:44 PM PST by jessduntno (The Republican elite hates him, Rove hates him, Boehner hates him, liberals hate him. It's Newt!)
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To: TBBT

Sorry,

Reagan in 1980 at accepting his nomination quoting FDR’s 1932
promise to have less government, and a solvent government.

Reagan said WE will keep the promises LONG AGO MADE.

In other words FDR did not keep his promise for smaller less intrusive government that was solvent.
FDR was a liar and Reagan pointed that out.
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=12834829

AMAZING PERRY SOUNDS JUST LIKE REAGAN.


12 posted on 12/14/2011 4:43:25 PM PST by marty60
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Reagan paid tribute to FDR in 1982. “Reagan’s admiration for FDR hardly dimmed even as he became America’s preeminent conservative voice. At a White House tribute in honor of FDR in 1982, Reagan hailed the 32nd President as “one of history’s truly monumental figures,” “an American giant, a leader who shaped, inspired, and led our people through perilous times.”


13 posted on 12/14/2011 4:43:25 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: marty60

Reagan paid tribute to FDR in 1982. Newt sounds more like Reagan.


14 posted on 12/14/2011 4:45:33 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

Hardly, Reagan believed FDR lied to he American People.


15 posted on 12/14/2011 4:46:27 PM PST by marty60
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To: katiedidit1

FDR is responsible for creating the welfare state that exists today. His economic policies created the Great Depression.


16 posted on 12/14/2011 4:46:49 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: marty60

Gingrich hasn’t lied to the American people either. So, we have a post on Reagan and Newt admiring FDR...Perry doesn’t that is the topic.


17 posted on 12/14/2011 4:48:27 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

Try watching Reagans own WORDS. Link to vid on post.

You didn’t bother to listen to REAGAN!!!

NEWT isn’t man enough to hold Reagan’s coat.


18 posted on 12/14/2011 4:49:26 PM PST by marty60
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To: TBBT

Hey!
Even Dutch, No ESPECIALLY him,
earned a few dollars, escaped his alcoholic fathers world and became a real boy, instead of a wooden head.


19 posted on 12/14/2011 4:51:40 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: TBBT

FDR was a traitor and a devoted Communist.


20 posted on 12/14/2011 4:51:51 PM PST by STD (Cut Taxes, Cut Spending Stupid!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

It was a different time in America when FDR was president. Today the progams that have expanded are due mainly to the liberals in congress. Do not believe FDR forcasted that it would be abused to the extent is it now. Some programs are “right” for the time and should later be abolished or cut back...problem is give congress a dime and they will find a way to spend it.


21 posted on 12/14/2011 4:52:55 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: arderkrag
Wrong, a very effective wartime strategist? Give me a break? Are you lazy? Try

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl/www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/fdr.html

22 posted on 12/14/2011 4:54:13 PM PST by STD (Cut Taxes, Cut Spending Stupid!)
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To: katiedidit1

“The democrat party of that era was not as radical as the Obamanites and Clintonites of today.”

You can’t be serious. Ignorance of history is no excuse for being stone-cold stupid.


23 posted on 12/14/2011 4:55:40 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: katiedidit1
The democrat party of that era was not as radical as the Obamanites and Clintonites of today.

You're right. They just appointed Klansmen to the Supreme Court, elected Klansmen as Vice President, elected a Klansman as president, rounded up Americans and put them in concentration camps, threatened to pack the Supreme Court if they didn't enact the New Deal, and left us with nothing to fear but a decade long depression.

Gingrich has stated that FDR was a better president than Reagan, and has stated that he melts when he's in Bill Clinton's presence.

24 posted on 12/14/2011 4:57:33 PM PST by GOPyouth ("We're buying shrimp, guys. Come on." - Dear Leader)
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To: katiedidit1

Playing the “What Would Reagan Do?” card to stifle the debate is silly. Newt said he admires the progressive Woodrow Wilson, and is not ashamed to admit he’s a “Realpolitik Wilsonian”, does that make it perfectly OK?


25 posted on 12/14/2011 4:58:02 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: katiedidit1

Perry and REAGAN hold the same views. Newt doesn’t that is my point. Notice Reagan made some gaffes but he won by a landslide.

Reagan was to much of a gentlemen to call FDR a liar. Which he was.

After all they did have to fight WWII.

Frankly, Newt has bigger problems than a lie. It’s called Ethics.

I get a little touchy about Reagan. I LUVVVED him.


26 posted on 12/14/2011 5:00:29 PM PST by marty60
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To: BigSkyFreeper

FDR is responsible for creating the welfare state that exists today. His economic policies created the Great Depression.

Absolutely right.


27 posted on 12/14/2011 5:04:41 PM PST by marty60
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To: BigSkyFreeper

FDR is responsible for creating the welfare state that exists today. His economic policies created the Great Depression.

Absolutely right.


28 posted on 12/14/2011 5:04:41 PM PST by marty60
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To: marty60

His ethics problems are the least of his worries. Most of which aren’t true.


29 posted on 12/14/2011 5:07:40 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: marty60

Reagan admired and respected FDR even AFTER he became a republican. Perry was behind ACORN at one time. Newt on socialism stated this during a 2001 interview...it is his thoughts on a nanny govt. “NEWT GINGRICH: Start with a notion that they may tell you whether or not you can build a house on your own property, they may tell you whether or not you can own a dog, they may tell you whether or not you can play music above a certain level in the evening, they may tell you whether or not you can drink on Sundays or Saturdays, depending on which state you’re in. If you look at the Taliban, they exercise the right to tell women they can have no job, they can drive no car, and they can get no education beyond sixth grade. That’s a pretty overweening level of power. Inexorably, if you look at the German system or if you look at the more expensive American states — New York would be, probably, the archetype — the more unionized you are and the more bureaucratic you are, the more likely you are to export your young somewhere else to get a better job. You have better growth rates in places that have fewer obstacles to freedom.


30 posted on 12/14/2011 5:09:16 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Just think..
If only the disaster that was woodrow wilson had been a “Realpolitic Bismarck”!
OH MY!
Newt is definitly an amphipian of some sort.
Be afraid, be very afraid.


31 posted on 12/14/2011 5:10:05 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: TBBT

Ronald Reagan on Franklin Roosevelt: In America, freedom was saved, and it gave us the strength to rescue a strife-torn Western world in the 1940s and 1950s.” Perhaps FDR did not realize what he had unleashed:

With his alphabet soup of federal agencies, FDR in many ways set in motion the forces that later sought to create big government and bring a form of veiled socialism to America. But I think that many people forget Roosevelt ran for president on a platform dedicated to reducing waste and fat in government. He called for cutting federal spending by twenty-five percent, eliminating useless boards and commissions and returning to states and communities powers that had been wrongfully seized by the federal government. If he had not been distracted by war, I think he would have resisted the relentless expansion of the federal government that followed him. . . . Government giveaway programs, FDR said, “destroy the human spirit,” and he was right. As smart as he was, though, I suspect even FDR didn’t realize that once you created a bureaucracy, it took on a life of its own. It was almost impossible to close down a bureaucracy once it had been created.
_________________ One can see quite a bit of wishful thinking in Reagan’s analysis. Yes, FDR did run on a platform for reducing government, but that was most likely campaign talk designed to win votes. Was it really the “distraction” of World War II that kept him from resisting the expansion of federal power? Did he truly not realize how difficult it is to dismantle a bureaucracy once it is established? How can one set up as many agencies as FDR did and not expect them to perpetuate themselves? Obviously, Reagan desired to maintain FDR’s reputation despite his profound disagreements with the direction FDR’s policies took the country.

Reagan’s dislike of New Deal programs is evident, as illustrated in one of his radio commentaries from the 1970s. In it, he compares the policies of the late Roman Empire with the New Deal and sees some striking similarities. They should serve as a warning for America, he cautions. Rome witnessed a growth in government intervention in which the government “set interest rates, devalued the currency, created a wheat subsidy & then dumped wheat on the market.” Further, “there were extensive public works like our New Deal-W.P.A.; a welfare system & food stamps.” When Rome suffered through a depression, it created something similar to FDR’s Home Loan Corporation. There was even an Agricultural Adjustment Administration, “which plowed under half the grapes to stop overproduction of wine and their basic coin the Denarius sank lower & lower in purchasing power.” Rome increased the money supply by the addition of copper to the coins and then went to wage and price controls. “By that time,” Reagan concludes, “government in Rome had brought commerce and industry to a halt with confiscatory taxation and a network of regulations.” His message: If this caused Rome to fall, what did it portend for America?

Reagan had to acknowledge that the fervent New Dealism of his younger days was a misplaced zeal. Writing to his childhood friends, the Cleaver family, he admitted in 1974, “I remember once, many years ago when I was an ardent New Dealer during the first term of FDR, you remarked that we could not spend our way into prosperity. I thought you were wrong at the time. Now, from hindsight, I realize that we took a turning back there in 1932 that has led to our present troubles. I watch the present administration in Washington with a certain unease. There are indications they are going to continue the same old shopworn government panaceas. I believe the time is too late for that.”

http://www.firstprinciplesjournal.com/articles.aspx?article=1082&theme=home&page=4&loc=b&type=cttf


32 posted on 12/14/2011 5:10:28 PM PST by anglian
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Sorry they are.

How did he go from a !0,000 net worth guy elected to Congress to a 7+ million net worth when he left.

He didn’t save his Salary, he was involved in the House banking scandal. He had 22 checks at the House bank. So tell me WHERE did all that money come from? Oh sorry, we do know Murdoch made a great book deal for him. 4 million until all the uproar from Repubs. Then it was changed to royalties. very special royalties. Newt is the definition of CRONY CAPITALISM.

But I guess crony capitalism isn’t a problem anymore. Oh well.


33 posted on 12/14/2011 5:18:29 PM PST by marty60
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To: marty60

But let’s be real, this ain’t 1982, and this ain’t Ronald Reagan’s Republican party. It’s a party that has lost it’s way and even after dumping that idiot Michael Steele as it’s leader, it remains leaderless and clueless as to it’s true identity. You look at the GOP today and it believes it’s supposed to become Democrat Lite in order to continue to function.


34 posted on 12/14/2011 5:24:51 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: TBBT
The Great Depression and WWII influenced many young Americans. Reagan made a lot of respectful remarks about FDR over the years, but he never governed like FDR. Reagan came to understand that limited government conservatism trumped big government liberalism. Reagan knew all about what FDR stood for.

"With his alphabet soup of federal agencies, FDR in many ways set in motion the forces that later sought to create big government and bring a form of veiled socialism to America. But I think that many people forget Roosevelt ran for president on a platform dedicated to reducing waste and fat in government. He called for cutting federal spending by twenty-five percent, eliminating useless boards and commissions and returning to states and communities powers that had been wrongfully seized by the federal government. If he had not been distracted by war, I think he would have resisted the relentless expansion of the federal government that followed him. . . . Government giveaway programs, FDR said, “destroy the human spirit,” and he was right. As smart as he was, though, I suspect even FDR didn’t realize that once you created a bureaucracy, it took on a life of its own. It was almost impossible to close down a bureaucracy once it had been created."


~ "An American Life" by Ronald Reagan

35 posted on 12/14/2011 5:29:17 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: plain talk
Yes - it is possible to admire someone for certain things and hating them for others. That is the case with Newt Gingrich as well.

That's not what he said though. He said he was the greatest president of the 20th century.

FDR is the reason we continue to suffer from ever growing gov't. Others before him can be blamed for laying the ground work, but the country got behind FDR and we were forever changed. FDR was a domestic albatross.

36 posted on 12/14/2011 5:31:52 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: marty60

FACT...Reagan on FDR in 1982!! “Reagan’s admiration for FDR hardly dimmed even as he became America’s preeminent conservative voice. At a White House tribute in honor of FDR in 1982, Reagan hailed the 32nd President as “one of history’s truly monumental figures,” “an American giant, a leader who shaped, inspired, and led our people through perilous times.”
Doesn’t sound like Reagan is insulting or calling him a liar and this was AFTER your 1980 post. So Newt and Reagan admired FDR.


37 posted on 12/14/2011 5:31:56 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
You look at the GOP today and it believes it’s supposed to become Democrat Lite in order to continue to function.

It was like that before Reagan too. We've been getting the half-a-loaf-conservatism for a long time.

38 posted on 12/14/2011 5:37:02 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: CommieCutter

I don’t agree with Newt on that point but I still say a person can admire certain aspects while detesting other aspects. My guess is that Newt said that because of WWII and not out of praise for FDRs domestic programs. But it doesn’t really matter. I disagree with Romney on far more things than I disagree with Newt Gingrich.


39 posted on 12/14/2011 5:38:28 PM PST by plain talk
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To: TBBT

Reagan admired President Franklin D. Roosevelt, whose “New Deal for the American people” provided jobs for his father and brother during the depths of the Depression. His parents were Democrats, in a Republican area, and Ronald Reagan remained a Democrat until after he turned 50. Although he never lost his admiration for FDR, Reagan became an ardent conservative and switched his registration to Republican in 1962.


40 posted on 12/14/2011 5:42:05 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: TBBT

Reagan was an admitted one-time Democrat. He voted for FDR before the conversion. Comparing Newt’s admiration for Roosevelt with Reagan’s youthful voting patterns is pretty dishonest.


41 posted on 12/14/2011 5:47:15 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: plain talk

I agree. I not a Romney fan either.

However, it’s scary that he would think this about FDR.


42 posted on 12/14/2011 5:47:47 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks TBBT.


43 posted on 12/14/2011 6:00:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: All
This was written as part of a larger post a while back.  I think it bears repeating here.  While there are instances of my using the word "you" here, this was not written to the person that I posted this to.

I have seen a number of folks trying to rip Reagan a new one, so their candidate will look better by comparison.

His take on Roosevelt seems to be a very popular topic, when the above tactic becomes necessary.

Here are a few things they leave out, when they talk about Reagan, his take on, and votes for Roosevelt.

1932:

01. Hoover(R) had been a dismal failure, leaving an almost catastropic economy for Roosevelt to take over
02. When Reagan voted for Roosevelt in 1932, he was part of 57% of the populace who did so.  Roosevelt won all but six states.
03. Roosevelt was inaugurated March 4, 1933 (32 days after Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany).  The U.S. was at the zenith of the worst depression in its history. Somewhere between 20.6 to 24.9% of the workforce was unemployed. Farm prices had fallen by 60%. Industrial production had fallen by more than half since 1929. On the evening of his inauguration day, 32 of the 48 states, as well as the District of Columbia had closed their banks. The New York Federal Reserve Bank was unable to open the next morning.  (and here folks are trying to make hay off Reagan not casting a vote for the man who had left this mess / absolutely shameful)
04. Hoover himself had come up with at least one New Deal type program, and Roosevelt kept it, Hoover's major relief program for the unemployed under the new name, Federal Emergency Relief Administration.
05. By 1936 Unemployment had dropped to between 9.9 and 16.9%.  (between 20.6 and 25.9% in 1932)

Some people make the case that Roosevelt prolonged the Great Depression.  While his second term didn't redice unemployment significantly, productivity did go way up, and unemployment all but disappeared by 1940.  Pay attention to the unemplyment and GNP figures as you read this.

1936:


06. When Reagan voted for Roosevelt in 1936, he was part of 60.8% of the populace who did so.  Roosevelt won all but two states, Maine and Vermont.
07. Kansas Governor Alf Landon, who accepted much of the New Deal, ran against Roosevelt in '36.  (You saw that right? LMAO)
08. Reagan's choices for President in 1936 included the New Deal author, and a man who didn't object to most of the New Deal.  (OUCH!)
........What this means is, if Reagan had voted for Landon, you could have come here and revealed that truth too.  Landon was for the most part, a New Dealer.
09. The Gross National Product grew by 34% from 1932 to 1936
10. By 1940 Unemployment had dropped to between 9.5 and 14.9%.  (between 9.9 and 16.9% in 1936)

1940:

11. When Reagan voted for Roosevelt in 1940, he was part of 55% of the populace who did so.  Roosevelt won 38 of 48 states.
12. Roosevelt's opponent Willkie centered his presidential campaign about three major themes: the alleged inefficiency and corruption of Roosevelt's New Deal programs, Roosevelt's attempt to win an unprecedented third term as President, and the government's alleged lack of military preparedness. Willkie claimed that he would keep most of FDR's New Deal welfare and regulatory programs, but that he would make them more efficient and effective.  (Drat!  You just can't catch a breat there partner.)
........What this means is, if Reagan had voted for Willkie, you could have come here and revealed that truth too. Willkie was for the most part, a New Dealer.
13. By 1940, the Gross National Product had grown by 58% since 1932.
14. By 1944 Unemployment had dropped to 1.2%.  (between 9.5 and 14.9% in 1940)

1944:

15. Willkie dies of a heart attack on October 8th, 1944, months before his term would have ended.
16. When Reagan voted for Roosevelt in 1944, he was part of 53% of the populace who did so.  Roosevelt won 36 of 48 states.
17. Thomas E. Dewey ran against Roosevelt in 1944 crusading against the alleged inefficiencies, corruption and Communist influences in incumbent Roosevelt's New Deal programs.  (
FINALLY!... you catch a break here.)
18. Timeline of important dates related to the War with Japan. LINK It's imporant to remember, that we were still at war with Germany and Japan, with decisions being made, and important battles fought.  Voters were naturally going to give this heavy consideration in the 1944 election.
19. By 1945, the Gross National Prodcut had grown another 56% since 1940.

20. April 12th, 1945 Roosevelt Dies

Summation:

Reagan voted for Roosevelt in 1932, because Hoover had cratered the nation.
Reagan voted for Roosevelt in 1936, because he approved of him, and Landon was essentially a New Dealer too.
Reagan voted for Roosevelt in 1940, because he approved of him, and Willkie was essentially a New Dealer too.
Reagan voted for Roosevelt in 1944, because he apporved of him, and we were still wrapping up Europe, and in the midst of fierce fighting in the Pacific.

That 1944 vote is probably the best bet to wedge people on. I still think folks will look like a bozo if they try to trash Reagon for not wanting to change CICs with our European and Pacific Theaters still active.

As for Roosevelt's policies, I agree that they have had lasting long term negative consequences.  I must interject the following comments here on behalf of people who can no longer comment.

As for Reagan being a New Deal Democrat, so were the Republicans who ran against Roosevelt in 1936 and 1940.  People who lived through the late 1920s and through the 1930s, saw and experienced things that wounded them for life.  Folks might not like it, and I'm not that thrilled with it, but the public saw Roosevelt as the man who turned the nation around after the Great Depression.  A majority of polls rank Roosevelt as the second or third greatest president.  Roosevelt is the sixth most admired person from the 20th century by U.S. citizens, according to Gallup.

Was Roosevelt responsible for seriously screwing this nation up?  I believe so.  He was also responsible for seeing us through some of the darkest days in our nation's history.

We can get as worked up over Roosevelt as we want, but the bottom line is this.  Roosevelt has been out of office for sixty-six years.  How much of his agenda was rolled back from 2000 to 2006?  Please, make a long list for me.  While you're at it, perhaps you might like to address the fact that the Medical Part D provision, was nothing if not a New Deal type program.  Perhaps you'd rather think of it as anther Great Society Program.  Do you begin to see why I don't want a RINO in the White House staring January 2013.

If we actually get a Conserative in there and we have a Tea Party dominated Republican Party in the House, and a simple Republican majority Senate, we can for the first time make major inroads into elimination and replacing the programs Roosevelt created, that are plaging our nation today.  At the same time, we can address some of Lyndon B. Johnson's crap.

So what I want to know is, are folks willing to fall in behind a real Conservative, or are they going to continue to try to place another guy in the White House who can't process his dirty laundry fast enough? 

While I do not see Roosevelt to be as bad as others do because of what he faced and saw us through, there are other presidents since that I think look very favorable when compared to him.  Reagan faced down the U. S. S. R., and peacefully set the planet on a course that wound up ending the Cold War.  Why would someone favor Roosevelt over him, if they were truly a Conservative?

I'd love to see folks actually sign on for once to vote for a person that actually will rid us of those New Deal and Great Society programs.  And please God, don't give us another fool that is willing to implement more Great Society type programs, or implement the Left's agenda for them.

44 posted on 12/14/2011 6:03:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: STD

Well, arguably he was far more fascist in his policy’s then communist.


45 posted on 12/14/2011 6:04:38 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: CommieCutter

Every once in a while Newt throws a jig and says or does some really goofy things. Reagan did the same thing once that I can recall such as when he said he would give star wars technology to the Soviets or naively agreed to the immigration deal. But Newt screws up far more often. He’s like a goofy uncle that you usually agree with it but not always.

Nonetheless that’s where we are. He is an imperfect beast but I am supporting him now since I feel I have no where else to go. The dems and independents will vote for Romney in the primaries. Newt is all that is left of a Maginot line to stop Romney.


46 posted on 12/14/2011 6:05:33 PM PST by plain talk
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To: marty60

Newt is more than man enough to hold Reagan’s coat...the rest aren’e worthy of shining Reagans shoes


47 posted on 12/14/2011 6:15:28 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1
Newt is more than man enough to hold Reagan’s coat...the rest aren’e worthy of shining Reagans shoes

Well, Gingrich did say that he cheated on his multiple wives b/c he loved his country so much. Reagan loved his country, yet I'm not aware of him cheating on Nancy. I'm also pretty sure that Reagan never melted in the presence of Bill Clinton, either.

48 posted on 12/14/2011 6:45:39 PM PST by GOPyouth ("We're buying shrimp, guys. Come on." - Dear Leader)
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To: DoughtyOne

“We have tried spending money. We are spending more money than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just none interest, and if I am wrong . . . somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job, I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. . . . I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started . . . . And an enormous debt to boot!”

FDR’s Treasury Secretary Morgenthau


49 posted on 12/14/2011 7:00:33 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: katiedidit1

Yes at a tribute,

FDR was a historical monumental figure ( look at social security etc.)

And yes he was President during the WAR against the fascist and Imperial Japan.

Nothing Reagan said was praise. It was just facts.
I guess you didn’t watch the vid of Ronald Reagans 1980 acceptance speech.

LISTEN TO HIS WORDS.


50 posted on 12/14/2011 7:10:33 PM PST by marty60
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