Skip to comments.Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income
Posted on 12/15/2011 5:33:19 AM PST by markomalley
Squeezed by rising living costs, a record number of Americans nearly 1 in 2 have fallen into poverty or are scraping by on earnings that classify them as low income.
The latest census data depict a middle class that's shrinking as unemployment stays high and the government's safety net frays. The new numbers follow years of stagnating wages for the middle class that have hurt millions of workers and families.
"Safety net programs such as food stamps and tax credits kept poverty from rising even higher in 2010, but for many low-income families with work-related and medical expenses, they are considered too 'rich' to qualify," said Sheldon Danziger, a University of Michigan public policy professor who specializes in poverty.
"The reality is that prospects for the poor and the near poor are dismal," he said. "If Congress and the states make further cuts, we can expect the number of poor and low-income families to rise for the next several years."
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Tipping point here we come.
That must be the 50% paying no Federal Income Taxes......
The problem with government “charity” is the motivation to continually expand the dependent class.
And the vast majority of the folks on the dole are too stupid to realize that they are voting to strangle the economy that has kept them in the style to which they’ve become accustomed.
This countries immigration policies both legal and illegal the past 15 years or so have been a disaster. We were told we needed all these immigrants to fill the unfilled jobs of our ‘growing economy’, presumed to keep wage inflation in check. Our trade policies need a close look at also.
Our “poor” have big screen TVs and smart phones. And most of them are obese.
Most of the world would love to be “poor” in America.
More likely this “study” was commissioned by Obama2012 for use in tv commercials to convince the voters we need four more years of the redistribution of wealth. After all, it is all the fault of the rich,and who better to punish the rich than the Democrats?
Most of the rising costs of living are caused by government regulation and intervention in the private sector IMO.
Our poor have big screen TVs and smart phones. And most of them are obese.
Most of the world would love to be poor in America.
Totally agree. Where I live, they also carry REALLY nice designer purses, wear designer boots, clothes, drive SUV’s, and seem to shop all day long with about 3 kids each hanging off of them. They also seem to push really nice strollers throughout the mall and usually leave with loads of bags after a day of shopping. As I often find myself dithering over how to spend my last 20 bucks for the month leftover after taxes, I often find myself becoming very envious of them.
I had a fellow from Cameroon tell me pretty much the exact same thing.
He was an engineer, living and working in Berlin. Spoke good German, friendly fellow.
When you define the dividing line for poor and rich as the middle of the income bell curve, by definition half of the sample will be poor. What a crock.
The sierra is going to hit the fan on the day that their ATM and EBT cards flash zero, and they are told “cash only” at the grocery store and gas station.
That will be the day our cities erupt.
Does everyone agree that continuing to let in millions and millions more additional (legal and illegal) poor, unskilled, uneducated, Democrat immigrants from third world countries is going to help?
And most of them are obese.
Funny you should say that the picture on our local paper shows exactly that a black baby over weight being held by a black obese mother. Bet they all have flat screens,cell phones, A/C and a least one car probably newer than mine.
Yep, the rest of us are paycheck to paycheck. (minus the .32% who are to rich to faIL)
I agree with your premise. Ironically, those of us who are working hard will be the target. I'm not rich, but in the class envy world of the Obamanites I'm sure they would target me. I've just worked 24 hours straight, and have a full day ahead, but that doesn't matter. They'd still say I wasn't contributing enough, somehow.
I believe that the resentment runs so deep in some on the left, that they wouldn't be satisfied with total redistribution of wealth to the point of supposed equality. What some would really like is role reversal, and to take essentially everything from those they resent.
This piece is a report from the battlefield. The war on poverty has been lost. All the weapons created and used to fight and win the war have been for naught.
The war is lost
The Generals must be rounded up and eliminated.
There is so much fundamentally wrong with this I hardly know where to begin. Picking a random part "University of Michigan professor" OK what you have here is a taxpayer funded bureaucrat whose quantity of swill is determined by how much noise he makes. After all even though a public university trough is pretty big, you have an awful lot of hogs (academics) rooting, grunting and shoving to get as much as they can of it. SO he has every incentive to FIND non-existant problems in his field, and then to tout them as loudly as he can.
Safety net programs such as food stamps and tax credits kept poverty from rising even higher in 2010
Actually by taking money away from the private sector and hence away from business and capital formation these programs INCREASED poverty by reducing job availability. The public policy
moron assumes that those out of work are incapable of shifting from one form of employment to another and their only recourse is to reach into the pockets of their hardworking fellow citizens. To the extent that the indolent indigent have ABSOLUTELY NO MOTIVE TO LOOK FOR WORK as long as the so-called "safety nets" are funneling money their way he is correct. Why work when you can get paid to do nothing?
A couple of things here first who decides what is "low income?" My income is less than the top 1% does that make me low income? How many of these "low income" families have
who specializes in poverty
This is worth about 500 words alone, but what's the point? It's for the children (Do I really need to add the sarcasm tag?)
That headline cannot be true in any real sense. One in two people are not poor or low income in any common sense use of those words. I don’t like the way things are headed either, and the case could be made that we are headed for disaster, but half the population is not poor or low income. Someone sent me an email the other day with photos form the Great Depression. THOSE people were poor and low income. And that was within the memory of some living today.
I’ve never seen a starving poor person in my town, and we have hundreds of them tramping around the center of town.
And yes, many have cell phones, and some even have new laptops! You have to see it to really get the full effect.
And dont get me started on relatives that are on welfare but have flatscreen TVs and broadband internet while my TV is straight out of 1994.
"About 97.3 million Americans fall into a low-income category, commonly defined as those earning between 100 and 199 percent of the poverty level, based on a new supplemental measure by the Census Bureau that is designed to provide a fuller picture of poverty. Together with the 49.1 million who fall below the poverty line and are counted as poor, they number 146.4 million, or 48 percent of the U.S. population. That's up by 4 million from 2009, the earliest numbers for the newly developed poverty measure."
"The new measure of poverty takes into account medical, commuting and other living costs. Doing that helped push the number of people below 200 percent of the poverty level up from 104 million, or 1 in 3 Americans, that was officially reported in September.
Always look for the hidden agenda, folks.
The Fox Piven plan calls for increasing poverty to the point of system wide collapse to open the way for marxism.
Well, you have the ability and they have the need. Commissar Obama says redistribution is the fair thing to do..."
Unlikely. Especially since those who make it their profession to create poverty statistics like to boost those numbers, so welfare and tax credits (applied after the adjusted gross income is calculated on the tax form) are usually ignored. In fact, since those programs generally suppress the value of work (at least on the books), many of them probably increase poverty as counted by the poverty pimps.
Most of the world would love to be poor in America.
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I've worked in a place where 40 year old men often have never owned a pair of store bought shoes. They made their own sandals from the sidewalls of old tires. a couple lived in caves and others stacked up rocks to make a one room house covered in mud & straw.
In "town" they had a single pump for the village, with open sewers running beside the dirt road.
Most people have no concept of what 3rd world poor is really like. I've tried to share with my kids that vision but honestly, they have no concept.
Exactly. Saved me a comment. Our biggest enemy remains an ignorant or a dependent voter. A test and an income tax bill should be required. Poll tax? Never happen (again).
and the test? It would eliminate a vast majority.
The deomocratic strategy is brilliant. Destroy the middle class, put 1/2 of the country in poverty and who do they go for help? The democrats, of course, who will rob the successful to pay for their minions of dependents.
“The new measure of poverty takes into account medical, commuting and other living costs. “
The government keeps adjusting the threshold to incorporate more and more folks, expanding its sphere of influence.
As I heard or read somewhere, either here or at church, globally speaking, if you flush your toilet with drinking water, you aren’t poor.
I so agree. I wish every “poor” American could spend time in a 3rd world shantytown slum with no running water or underground sewage pipes.
It would learn ‘em fast. They would kiss the ground when they landed back in LAX or JFK.
Great point, I’ll remember that one and cite it often!
I guess most of us on this forum now are members of the unwashed 50%. Pretty soon, the Marxists will just assign everyone of us a member of the bottom 50% to clothe, feed, take shopping, pay for college, fetch lottery tickets and ripple. They can call it the Siamese Plan. “Hey Comrade, I just got home from the factory. Are you ready to go to Best Buy for the new router and iPad? Then we can swing by Taco Bell and share a burrito grande.”
Thirty something years of open borders' importation of third world poverty (tens of millions of illegals and even more of their offspring) has got us to 1 in 2 today.
But, fear not Obama! The continuation of the open-borders/path-to-citizenship/humane/not-heartless/amnesty bullshit of the democrats, and too many republicans & "conservatives," - even here on FR - will get us to the "2 in 3 or 3 in 4" soon enough.
That's when the leftwing will reach the demographic condition of pre-Castro Cuba, pre-Chavez Venezuela, etc., and America will be their prize.
Then again, equal-outcome is the goal, and that means smashing everybody down to the lowest common denominator.
Precisely what the muslim marxist wants.
Mission accomplished, for the most part, indeed:
Watch the stock market over the 3-4 months, it’s about to get a lot worse.
This is pure bovine excrement.
Nicely done, spot on.
They are obese because the cheap foods that they eat are intentionally and specifically designed to make people fat.
It’s an evil relationship between the food companies and the “health” care industry.
Half the people are below average? GOSH, what a surprise!
The word “poor” has lost all meaning here.
The vast majority of all the people who ever walked the face of the earth would be flabbergasted by all the wealth that the American “poor” have.
We’re all filthy rich by global and historical standards, but somehow a large portion of this nation has been convinced that they are “poor.”
Aw, the power of negative thinking! (Or victim mentality.)
Half the people are below the mean.
It’s easy when you can set the bar for what constitutes “low income” anyplace you want it to be.
Along with OWS and “We Are The 99%”, part of the campaign to convince 50.1% of the electorate that they are victims.
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