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Armed Services Panel Dem: Repeal Bestiality Ban, It's Not ‘Relevant To One’s Conduct [...]
CNSNews.com ^ | 12/14/2011 | Christopher Goins

Posted on 12/15/2011 9:31:15 AM PST by PieterCasparzen

Rep. Rob Andrews (D-N.J.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, told CNSNews.com that he supports repealing the military's ban against sodomy and bestiality because, while he does not condone these practices, he does not think whether someone engages in these behaviors is "relevant to one's conduct as a military officer or an enlisted person."

On Capitol Hill on Tuesday, CNSNews.com asked Andrews: "Did you know that the Senate Version of the Defense Authorization Bill, it includes a provision which repeals Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice--that's the law against sodomy and bestiality--a provision not in the House Bill. Are you aware of that?”

Andrews said: “I am aware of that, yeah.”

When asked whether he thought that provision should be in the final version of the legislation, Andrews said he believes Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice should be repealed.

"Repealing the provision against sodomy and bestiality in the commercial, uh, in the military code? Yeah, I do think we should repeal that in the military code," he said.

"I think--I don't condone either practice,” he said, “but I don't think either practice is really relevant to one's conduct as a military officer or an enlisted person. So, I think if there are instances of that, they’re better dealt with by the civil law of whatever country it would occur in.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bestiality; homosexualagenda; robandrews
Come on NJ conservatives and Republicans - bestiality ? Can you defeat this guy next election ? He supports bestiality ! He cares about what the homosexual lobby wants him to vote for - making sure members of the armed forces can have the option to engage in bestiality if they so choose. He doesn't think it is "relevant" to one's conduct !

NJ Democrats who support this j@ck@$$ have some serious thinking to do about what it means to be "liberal".

I think only a moron thinks that most people in NJ - or almost anywhere in America - are pro-bestiality.

1 posted on 12/15/2011 9:31:18 AM PST by PieterCasparzen
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To: PieterCasparzen

Agreed ... they really screwed the pooch on this one ....


2 posted on 12/15/2011 9:33:25 AM PST by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Obviously someone who never served his country in uniform.

And obviously a gay-loving Leftist who wants to tear down the military with his socialist engineering agenda.

F U R A!


3 posted on 12/15/2011 9:34:46 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Typical liberal “Do it if it feels good” mentality. They know no discipline. Of course they are the ones to scream like a stuck pig if anyone does anything they don’t like, always calling people “fascists” for bieing subject to any level of discipline.


4 posted on 12/15/2011 9:35:53 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Armed Services Panel Dem: Repeal Bestiality Ban, It's Not ‘Relevant To One’s Conduct [...]

And, thus, the left's war against the world's finest military continues!!
If they keep it up, we won't be able to defeat Holland or Italy in the next war.

5 posted on 12/15/2011 9:37:11 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Sorry, but I’ll react a bit differently should I see a he/she moving worm vs a he/he moving....er....thing.

In private - that’s their business. In a military environment, it isn’t. Period.

And that’s the way it is. Normal folks are programmed that way...which explains why libs don’t have problem with it.


6 posted on 12/15/2011 9:37:24 AM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Does anyone know if Rep. Rob Andrews (D-N.J.) is a fudgepacker?


7 posted on 12/15/2011 9:38:13 AM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: PieterCasparzen

This guy can go @%#! a duck if he wants but he should not hold office.


8 posted on 12/15/2011 9:38:28 AM PST by Leep
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To: PieterCasparzen
Rep. Rob Andrews (D-N.J.) acknowledges he has received his marching orders from the White House.

Despite Plea from Obama Administration, Conference Committee Restores Military Ban on Sodomy, Bestiality
9 posted on 12/15/2011 9:39:27 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: clamper1797

Stars and Stripes
Published: December 8, 2011
WASHINGTON — Just in case you weren’t sure, bestiality is still illegal in the U.S. military.

http://www.stripes.com/news/sex-with-animals-still-not-ok-in-u-s-military-1.162890


10 posted on 12/15/2011 9:40:13 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Old NCO showing the new 2/Lt around the post. Takes him out back and says if the brown bar has sexual urges he can do what everyone else does and points to the horse. A couple of weeks go by and the young man gets the urge and goes looking for the horse. A short time later the old NCO learns about what’s happening and goes out back where he finds the lieutenant and horse doing what used to be in violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice but is no longer a violation. That’s when the NCO says, “I guess that’s one way Sir, but we usually just ride the old nag into town to see the girls.”


11 posted on 12/15/2011 9:40:46 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: PieterCasparzen

Its the sodomy ban they dont like, it conflicts with DADT. They knew that lumping the two together would kill DADT passage last year.


12 posted on 12/15/2011 9:41:14 AM PST by sickoflibs (Man we are screwed!)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Its the sodomy ban they dont like, it conflicts with DADT. They knew that lumping the two together would kill DADT passage last year.


13 posted on 12/15/2011 9:41:33 AM PST by sickoflibs (Man we are screwed!)
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To: Portcall24

Heheheh...good one!


14 posted on 12/15/2011 9:46:50 AM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Gerbils. You should hear them shriek whenever they see Barney Frank. The horror.....the horror.


15 posted on 12/15/2011 9:48:49 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Portcall24

Izzat horse named Bawney?


16 posted on 12/15/2011 9:48:56 AM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: vette6387

Does anyone know

How about rephrasing that to “has anyone heard” (lol)


17 posted on 12/15/2011 9:53:41 AM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: PieterCasparzen

So, when a choice has to be made does the soldier save his buddy, his “gay” lover, or his cat.


18 posted on 12/15/2011 9:58:15 AM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: Old Sarge

Someone should tie up a goat or sheep to his office door handle.


19 posted on 12/15/2011 9:58:26 AM PST by richardtavor
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To: richardtavor

Or a donkey. The Iraqis I saw when I was over there had a thing for donkeys.

And each other. Thursday was Man Day in Ramadi.


20 posted on 12/15/2011 10:00:28 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Is there a videotape of this moron saying this? If so, we need to start a funding drive to create and advertisement stating that this is the face of the Democratic party, using this guy's words as the ad. This is their thinking!!!

I can't believe the guy had the balls to say this!

Did anyone sitting on the committee verbally bitch slap this guy for saying this?

21 posted on 12/15/2011 10:05:38 AM PST by Fedupwithit ("Live free or Die: Death is not the worst of evils" - Gen. John Stark)
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To: CodeToad

It comes down to the basic difference in liberal vs conservative philosophy and outlook: Conservatives have standards, and Liberals do not.

To Liberals, the cardinal sin of all sins is...Hypocrisy. (They don’t believe in God, so Lying, Stealing, Adultery, Murder and so on are simply relativistic sins.

Relativistic as in: “You say stealing is wrong. They say stealing is okay. Their culture says it is okay, so who are we to inflict our values on them?” Their golden rule is: There is no morality. All morality is relative.

Because of this viewpoint, Hypocrisy is the worst charge a liberal can level against anyone. (It is why they use the charge so freely, ubiquitiously, and frequently against their enemies.)

Liberals have no standards. Because, in their little teeny minds, if you don’t have any standards to live up to, you cannot possibly be called a hypocrite for failing to meet those standards.

And there is the difference.

Conservatives believe three things in this respect: Morality is NOT relative, Standards are critical for a well-functioning society, and Human Beings are fallible.

Very few conservatives believe morality is relative, and those that do are usually Libertarians, not conservatives.

Standards are critical and you must have them. They are behavioral goals to be met, and can only be instituted and aimed for in a society that doesn’t believe all behavior is relative.

Human beings are fallible. But that reality does not stop conservatives from having standards, even if they aren’t always met. We understand that people try, and that people fail. We also understand that people are allowed to fail, but must always pick themselves up and attempt to succeed. Failure is no excuse for future failure. You are always allowed to try again to meet standards. (Unless it is a particular failure like murder or certain crimes)


22 posted on 12/15/2011 10:07:14 AM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: Portcall24

Now the shave tail can say ... “ I prefer it this way”


23 posted on 12/15/2011 10:13:16 AM PST by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: rlmorel

“All morality is relative.”

It is even more simplisitc than that: Liberals are like spoiled children. It is OK if they do it but not if it is done to them.


24 posted on 12/15/2011 10:21:34 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Terry Mross
So, when a choice has to be made does the soldier save his buddy, his “gay” lover, or his cat.

Which is why our military figured out their rules the way they did. They didn't just make cr@p up. It came from studying the effectiveness of forces over thousands of years of military history. The unit needs to be a team is the inescapable conclusion.

This is the same problem created by women serving in combat roles. Do I feel sorry for the female pilot and dive after her to save her even when I tactically am not supposed to do that for the good of the squadron ? In the infantry platoon, which man is the "favorite" of the female lieutenant ? Resentment, jealousy, love, all that works against unit cohesion. I haven't even served and I've learned that much.

Of course, the righteous army follows the Word of God as a foundation, so automatically the correct choices are made on all such foundational questions.

Between the Bible and other reading, history is not only fascinating, but a fantastic guide, IMHO.
25 posted on 12/15/2011 10:22:16 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

The next thing you’ll hear him or some Dem-wit in the future say is that pedophilia isn’t relevant to one’s conduct in the military or other forms of sexual deviancy.


26 posted on 12/15/2011 10:23:56 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: CodeToad

True...kind of a corollary to: “We believe in Freedom of Speech...but only as long as you agree with us!”


27 posted on 12/15/2011 10:25:38 AM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: PieterCasparzen

No Comment..I would get banned


28 posted on 12/15/2011 10:27:12 AM PST by Charlespg
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To: PieterCasparzen

Hi ... I'm professor Rob Andrews ... and I'm a dumb ass!

29 posted on 12/15/2011 11:40:17 AM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I wonder what PETA thinks about this Dem...


30 posted on 12/15/2011 12:22:01 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN

Now this issue could get a bit complicated.

If a man makes it with a female goat that is clearly heterosexual bestiality.

On the other hand, if the man makes it with a male goat, then it is homosexual bestiality.

If the man should do it with an underaged female goat, it is pedophilic heterosexual bestiality.

But again, if the man does it with an underaged male goat, you have a case of peodphilic homosexual bestiality.

Nothing like variety in sex. :)


31 posted on 12/16/2011 8:44:28 AM PST by NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN ('he who creates something worthwhile, never dies.'')
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