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Iran official: We tricked the U.S. surveillance drone to land intact
Haaretz ^

Posted on 12/15/2011 10:32:48 AM PST by alex2011

"The GPS navigation is the weakest point," the Iranian military official told the Monitor, calling the downing an "electronic ambush" of secret drone.

"By putting noise [jamming] on the communications, you force the bird into autopilot. This is where the bird loses its brain," he added.

The engineer added that the Iranians were able to make the drone land "on its own where we wanted it to, without having to crack the remote-control signals and communications” from the US control center."

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canada; drone; economy; iran; nuclear; oil; uav
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To: crosslink

it did return to base - the base was in Iran. The drone thought it was in Afghanistan, because Iranians spoofed the GPS signal — the only way it knows where it is in 3D space!

Unfortunately its a major screw up: in design of the drone,in operation,and then in not destroying the bird on the ground by the pResident.


21 posted on 12/15/2011 10:54:59 AM PST by alex2011
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To: crosslink

...or home grown muslims...


22 posted on 12/15/2011 10:55:28 AM PST by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: sam_paine

Okay, so what you’re saying is that Iranian fighters pulled along side. One of them damaged the nose of the drone, the pilot killing himself in the process. The drone then followed the other aircraft because it was outgunned and feared for it’s own safety.

Well... okay. ;^)

I get it. **** happens. I’m not buying off that Tehran Bob’s **** happened.

Perhaps I’ll be proven wrong.


23 posted on 12/15/2011 10:55:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: dragnet2

It was my understanding the drone was shot down. Has that been debunked?


24 posted on 12/15/2011 10:57:10 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: MichaelP
They might very well have done it.

No maybe to it.

They did it.

25 posted on 12/15/2011 10:57:22 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: alex2011

If the drone wasn’t over Iranian territory when they hi-jacked it, then that’s an act of war.

Proper retribution would be the complete elimination of the Iranian air force and missle systems.


26 posted on 12/15/2011 10:58:05 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: alex2011

It still wouldn’t have happened if Obama hadn’t refused permission to destroy it. He obviously wanted to give Iran and China a little prezzie. First the stealth helicopter that went down in Pokistan, and now this.


27 posted on 12/15/2011 11:00:01 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: alex2011

Probably why it didn’t Self Destruct.


28 posted on 12/15/2011 11:00:42 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Moonman62

Yes it would if you design it correctly. If you have 3 independent ways of navigation they take a a vote of where to go: 2 can always overrule 1. Thus if they just Jammed the GPS other nav system would have taken it to base. Having significant errors between at least 2 navigation systems, should initiate a self destruct of the drone. Thus Iranians would have to perfectly spoof ground beacons and GPS to get it — very unlikely. Also, its important to run the monitoring stations (that NSA responsibility) next to Iran to detect when they turn on their spoofing/jamming transmitters and deal with them — not that Obama would.


29 posted on 12/15/2011 11:01:50 AM PST by alex2011
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To: alex2011
Did you read the article I linked? Someone had a virus in the main controller of all of these birds. We have now had one lost and another hijacked in Africa. This type of virus has the ability to record and send all of the codes we use and how we connect to someone. I hope we ground all of these until we understand what was stolen.
30 posted on 12/15/2011 11:02:18 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: dragnet2

Wanna bet?

Only diff is language.


31 posted on 12/15/2011 11:02:18 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: alex2011

Did you see this? http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/drone-virus-kept-quiet/


32 posted on 12/15/2011 11:05:19 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink

Don’t think its a Worm. The thinking is the Worm is some monitoring software installed by some branch of US Gov,just never reported to people who need to know. Taking the drone over the way Iranian is describing, is much simply technically than the Worm. So my bet is the Iranian is not BS’ing. The classified networks are Air Gabbed,even if you have Worm on it you can’t control it real-time to do bad stuff.


33 posted on 12/15/2011 11:10:01 AM PST by alex2011
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To: alex2011
Basically what he says they did...

Do you believe them?

34 posted on 12/15/2011 11:11:00 AM PST by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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To: alex2011

just read a report about this..... a general says the welds are wrong, the landing gear is not shown, and the size is incorrect... this is a mock up, not one of our drones.... remember GI Joe....


35 posted on 12/15/2011 11:10:59 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: DoughtyOne
It was my understanding the drone was shot down. Has that been debunked?

Come on DO.

If it was simply shot down there would be little left of this drone. These things are really fragile.

After being hit with rockets/missiles, and then crashing, there would be nothing left but small pieces.

Ask yourself, why would the President of the United States ask for it back, if it was shot down and crashed?

Why are there all kinds of images of a fully intact U.S. drone with Iranians posing for pictures around it?

36 posted on 12/15/2011 11:14:09 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: alex2011

Sooooo...does a military drone start to acquire the characteristics of its CIC? Maybe the drone was looking for a spot to take a vacation.


37 posted on 12/15/2011 11:14:55 AM PST by Spok (From hope and change to change is hopeless. In just the first term.)
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To: alex2011

Seems like what is needed here is a “Trojan Drone”.


38 posted on 12/15/2011 11:16:47 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: crosslink
Someone had a virus in the main controller of all of these birds.

Where, specifically, did you get that information?

39 posted on 12/15/2011 11:18:43 AM PST by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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To: TankerKC

here,http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/drone-virus-kept-quiet/


40 posted on 12/15/2011 11:21:53 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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