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Breaking: Copy of ATF Email Wanting More Gun Control in Wake of Fast and Furious
Big Government ^ | 12/15/11 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 12/15/2011 12:02:42 PM PST by Nachum

For the better part of a year, I have been saying that the end goal of Fast and Furious was more gun control. Rush Limbaugh has said this, Sean Hannity and other FOX NEWS personalities have said this, and the NRA and Gun Owners of America have said this, among others. (I had a post on Big Government on July 13th dedicated to making this very point.)

Throughout this time, I have had a copy of an email that was sent to me back in March of 2011. It’s an July 2010 email from ATF Special Agent in Charge Mark R. Chait to ATF Supervisor William Newell. It is copied to a third ATF Supervisor, William McMahon. Newell and McMahon were assigned to the Phoenix area at the time (and Phoenix just so happened to be ground zero for Fast and Furious.) In it, Chait asks Newell if he can find enough “anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales.” In other words, Chait was asking whether, in the midst of the flood of new weapons hitting the streets via Fast and Furious, a means could be found to justify more gun control.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; email; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; obama

1 posted on 12/15/2011 12:02:46 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 12/15/2011 12:05:38 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

He’s fibbing at least a little — that email has been public for at least a week.


3 posted on 12/15/2011 12:07:05 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Nachum

Never let a crisis go to waste ! Especially if you created it .


4 posted on 12/15/2011 12:07:57 PM PST by molson209
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To: Nachum

The ATF is a gang of thug wannabes that have no moral compass but have a inherent need for more power and control to justify their existence. Waco was their doing and F&F is worse. How many people have died in Mexico and the US because of their incompetence?....................


5 posted on 12/15/2011 12:09:09 PM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: Nachum
Wonderful, a criminal organization hiding behind the government alphabet soup who's biggest claim to fame is burning up women and children in a church not government approved wants to take more rights from citizens even though the US Constitution makes it perfectly clear they can pass NO laws abridging our right to bear arms.

You could use the RICO act against most government departments.

They are not content with never wasting a crisis but now have begun creating a crisis so that they can unconstitutionally remove more of our rights and our inept, political hacks in black robes would probably let them get away with it in another “brilliant” 5-4 decision showing once again their complete ignorance of the constitution all the while pretending to but SUPREME court justices.

6 posted on 12/15/2011 12:13:37 PM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: Nachum
Charlton Heston: From my cold dead hands!
7 posted on 12/15/2011 12:20:43 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Red Badger

There ya go


8 posted on 12/15/2011 12:23:05 PM PST by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Nachum
Here is a petition to call for Eric Holder's prosecution.
Tea Party Petition to Prosecute Eric Holder

After signing the petition you will get an automatic way to send an e-mail to your Congressman and Senators. You can use their text or fill in your own.

9 posted on 12/15/2011 12:24:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Nachum

“Working Under the Radar...”


10 posted on 12/15/2011 12:27:29 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Nachum
Gun control efforts are no longer needed now that the US military will soon be able to be unleashed upon this land and its citizens in the name of citizen TERRORISM. Although it is still legal to purchase and possess hand held firearms but the original intent of the second amendment was to stop or throw off government tyranny. Good luck if it ever comes to that in this country now. What is really sad is the members of the military as well as law enforcement personnel who are tasked to enforce the unconstitutional laws thus protecting the real criminals of DC are also citizens of the US and as citizens their rights have also been taken.
11 posted on 12/15/2011 12:31:29 PM PST by drypowder
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To: jiggyboy

At least a week, yes - the e-mail was linked on Free Republic five months ago: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2748673/posts


12 posted on 12/15/2011 12:39:19 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Charles Martel

If the next president eliminated the ATF completely what functions would need to be handled by other departments?


13 posted on 12/15/2011 12:42:53 PM PST by RC51
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To: Nachum
not surprised
14 posted on 12/15/2011 1:44:50 PM PST by Charlespg
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To: RC51
If the next president eliminated the ATF completely what functions would need to be handled by other departments?

A: Lying, stealing, depriving citizens of rights.......as long as we keep the Department of Educashion, we're good.

15 posted on 12/15/2011 1:47:13 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Nachum

I just hope the GOP led congress shows some spine and indicts Holder and everyone else involved in Fast and Furious.

I sure do not want to see the spinelessness that was shown by RINO politicians and media when it came to Obama Eligibility


16 posted on 12/15/2011 2:08:07 PM PST by RealImmigrant (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: Nachum; neverdem; Interesting Times

>> “In other words, Chait was asking whether, in the midst of the flood of new weapons hitting the streets via Fast and Furious, a means could be found to justify more gun control” <<


17 posted on 12/15/2011 2:14:34 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: RC51

>> “If the next president eliminated the ATF completely what functions would need to be handled by other departments?” ,,

.
Source identification of explosives.

All other functions are unconstitutional.


18 posted on 12/15/2011 2:17:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Nachum

19 posted on 12/15/2011 2:28:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: editor-surveyor

Thanks. There’s little question that domestic gun control was a key purpose for this operation. I also think they wanted to arm Marxist cartels and destabilize the governments of Mexico and Honduras, and possibly others.


20 posted on 12/15/2011 2:41:05 PM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: jiggyboy

How’s Hawkins fibbing by saying the email was sent to him back in March?


21 posted on 12/15/2011 4:17:00 PM PST by Ham Maker
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To: Nachum

This email is now makes the second of two I’ve seen — both of which clearly implicate the ATF in pushing gun control behind the scenes of Fast and Furious. Doesn’t anyone have the courage to prosecute these people for what they’ve done?


22 posted on 12/15/2011 4:17:14 PM PST by Ham Maker
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To: Ham Maker
'Doesn’t anyone have the courage to prosecute these people for what they’ve done?'

Not in this administration. :(

23 posted on 12/15/2011 4:43:00 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Ham Maker

The fib is that the email, and even the photocopy of the email, are “breaking news”. It’s available via the five-month-old link in comment 12.


24 posted on 12/15/2011 8:22:14 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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