Posted on 12/15/2011 1:35:20 PM PST by Kaslin
Compare public school teachers to private school teachers; in my area we have a kindergarten teacher not even 45 years old making over $80K. Do you know what this person will cost the taxpayer by the time she dies? Millions!
Private school principals don’t earn that much; this parasite milks the system, getting an un-needed advanced degree to push the salary higher (kindergarten isn’t even required in NJ - school officially starts in first grade). That is why NJ will be left with illegal aliens and the permanent underclass (neither of which pay taxes - read: teachers); this is also why Governor Christie is so popular in NJ - he exposed this nonsense on national TV.
You might want to argue that with how much administrators make, how much school principals make. How much those NJ toll booth operators make with no advanced degree’s BTW. Then of course the school janitors that make more. How much would those two government jobs cost over the years? Millions??
There were times when we were out on a date and he couldn’t stop from being so frustrated - over the kids, the parents the administrators, the union. It totally crushed him because he believed in what he was doing. Dedication. You don’t go into that field without some sort of dedication.
I used 8 months at $56/hr to get the $78k number, annualized it still sums to $116k full time.
$58k for 9 months is about $36/hr, a much more realistic figure that nets about $45k annual.
BLS $56/hr figure includes very highly compensated school administrators, or overvalued pension & benefit calculations.
I don't know what the pension payout is for a typical public school teacher, but hard to believe it equates to $20/hr average.
The hrs in the school are what produces the $56/hr. My late wife spent another 2-3 each night and probably another 6-8 on the weekends.
Rush does not do a good job on statistics when he is on a jihad against the unions. We love him anyway.
What is pretty indisputable though his the superior health care that is provided teachers. It is better than any other public or private employees.
How do you know that? Some do real estate during the busy season. Some work online. Moreover, looking at it in terms of total compensation per hour is the only way to account their opulent benefits, yet it does not consider job security, which unionized public employees enjoy to a scandalous degree. So in that respect, this analysis understates the disparity between public and private employment.
They might be overpaid, but an annual number would be more believable; too many variables in a "per hour" number.
Just as "believable" as adjusting downward every other worker's pay by three months a year, plus all the other time off these slugs get.
No. It's legit. People get paid for the time they spend working, and no other time. People get overtime for extra hours worked, "HOURS" being the constant here.
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Do you know that it is becoming more common among professionals to eliminate the small percentage of obnoxious clients and patients in their practice? Their money isn't worth the hassle. These bullies are politely asked to find another professional. One expression that I used in my office was, “We are not a good fit”.
I bet many private schools do that, too.
Parents do this in our nation's socialist schools because they can get away with it.
Privatize education. Starve the beast.
sheer numbers and tenure!!
How many teachers do you think there are in an individual school vs administrators, office clerks, janitors, principals, vice principals and any other staff?
“Science is not what you observe, or what the outdated so-called “scientific method” or what the backwards patriotic Americans tell you it is.
Science is what the government says it is.
Now, open the late Chairman Mao's little red book to page twelve........”
Obviously, a job that requires education and training is going to pay more than average.
Its salary including benefits. Under that formula he makes sense. The tax payer covers all that cost, but one has to include the taxes the teachers pay as well. So it may be slightly less but not by much. Salary plus my benefits I am near 110K, but I done see that on my w2’s.
Having a dad who was a teacher and a bro. who currently teaches and a child who teaches to. While they may work more ‘hrs’ then said (conferences and correcting homework/tests) the teachers who work the most hrs tend to be those just out of college. Once they’ve established their plans they really don’t vary a whole lot from year to year. Getting new texts does require going through them and implementing the plan with the new text.
And of course beginning teachers who end up putting in more time doing lesson plans and such, just because they are just starting out are lower paid then those with the years in and who have established plans that just need tweaking.
I really don’t recall my dad doing much ‘school’ business during the summer except when he had to take a class or such. I’m sure he did some but it wasn’t like he sat around every day working on lesson plans and whatever everyday during the summer, he did spend allot of time coaching tho.
Teachers always get a bum rap. Whenever things go bad in the economy the first thing is teachers salaries and how much they make, etc, blah blah. It really irritated me listening to Rush today bashing teachers pay. I think the people who pass information to him are not credible and thus he runs with it without checking details. I emailed him but I doubt that he’d read it. I hate it when teachers are maligned esp. about their pay. I think they deserve every penny they earn what with having to put up with all that they do.
There is a hatred of teachers in this culture that is truly baffling. Sometimes I wish WE could do an Atlas Shrugged and see how America likes bored children and teenagers running wild year around.
It’s interesting how the media finds fault with kids from Japan and China who are really taught in schools there. Then you look at what is being turned out here.
Public school teacher bashing and cop bashing is quite popular around here.
I don’t get it.
No hatred of teachers whom earn their keep and do a good job—however, public school teachers deserve all the scorn they get. Year after year, they receive more money, and the standard of public schooling declines. Public schools are disgraceful and should be abolished.
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