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Islamists Ready To Pounce As U.S. Lowers Flag In Iraq
IBD Editorials ^ | December 15, 2011 | Editor

Posted on 12/15/2011 5:04:32 PM PST by Kaslin

Mideast: Our premature departure from Iraq tells the world that the U.S., as in Vietnam, can't finish big jobs. But far worse, it opens the door to a nuclear-armed, pan-Islamist empire led by Iran.

Why, as Fox News correspondent Jennifer Griffin reported Thursday, did Iraqi leaders opt out of the official end-of-war ceremony in Baghdad?

Well over 4,000 U.S. servicemen and women gave their lives to free Iraq from Saddam Hussein, and some 32,000 were wounded over nearly a decade of war.

Shouldn't the elected representatives of the Iraqi people have been there to express their personal thanks?

After all, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told U.S. personnel they could now leave the ancient, storied land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers "secure in knowing that your sacrifice has helped the Iraqi people to cast tyranny aside, and to offer hope for prosperity and peace to this country's future generations."

Clearly, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, President Jalal Talabani and many other officials within the nation's embryonic republic see the writing on the wall.

They understand what President Obama does not seem to: that Iraq in its current state is far from secure; and that America's sacrifices may have ended Saddam's tyranny, but that future generations of Iraqis — and very possibly the present generation — may find themselves under the thumb of foreign invaders.

Talabani, a Kurd, is on record saying that all of Iraq's political factions except those connected to the Mahdi army of Shiite warlord Muqtada al-Sadr wanted some U.S. troops to stay and continue to train Iraqi forces.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: armenia; azerbaijan; iran; iraq; jalaltalabani; jennifergriffin; kurdistan; leonpanetta; nourialmaliki; syria; turkey

1 posted on 12/15/2011 5:04:41 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Remember, Tom Clancy wrote about an Iraq/Iranian anschluss..could happen...we forget that TRIBES, not nationalities, are the prime movers in the middle eats..


2 posted on 12/15/2011 5:09:50 PM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: Kaslin

Islamists aka the Muslim Brotherhood.


3 posted on 12/15/2011 5:11:20 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Kaslin

“Why, as Fox News correspondent Jennifer Griffin reported Thursday, did Iraqi leaders opt out of the official end-of-war ceremony in Baghdad?”

Because they knew that attending was a death sentence. Mookie will go wild first. Then Iran. The country is screwed.


4 posted on 12/15/2011 5:11:20 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: ken5050

Could happen? Try “will happen” now that the US is leaving. There were Iranians attacking US troops in Iraq for years. That was more than enough impetus for the US to finally deal with Iran.


5 posted on 12/15/2011 5:13:01 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
I don't think it is a coincidence that the US is pulling all of their troops out of Iraq at the same time that Israel is weighing the possibility of taking action on Iran.
6 posted on 12/15/2011 5:18:51 PM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: yank in the UK; Kaslin; All
The U.S. military’s fast-approaching Dec. 31 exit from Iraq, which has no way to defend its airspace, puts Israel in a better place strategically to strike Iran’s nuclear facilities.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/14/us-will-leave-iraqi-airspace-clear-for-strategic-i/

7 posted on 12/15/2011 5:25:37 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Kaslin
We can THANK our former RINO extraordinaire and COMPLETLEY CLUELESS, "Compassionate Conservative" George W Boosh for what surely has been an exercise in futility, when (albeit, though NOT an excuse, he was given bad advice) he allowed Iraq (as well as Af-Gan) to form new Gubmints with Islam (Sharia) as its "Controlling Authority."

This GUARANTEED that Iraq would never be a true ally and NONE of its peoples would ever enjoy what he pined for ("democracy") any liberties, freedoms or rights!

Of ALL of his screwups (and there were MANY) this was his worse.

I predict (in fact some of my Guard friends who served in one theathre or both, are already expressing this sad commentary) much as we Nam Vets did and that is: What did we accomplish and was the sacrifice and expenditure of so much blood and treasure worth it?

I suggest they will say the same as we did: A resounding NO; not because we ever lost ONE SINGLE major military engagement in Nam, but the politicians (both R's and D's) has NO intent on even trying to prevail (i.e. win) which we could have easily accomplished if we had wanted to.

Iraq (and Af-Gan, after we "Bug Out" of it) will end up being 2 more "Islamic Republics" and don't be surprised if some day they end up as our sworn enemy.

Less anyone think we could not have FORCED both countries to forsake Islam, do a little due dilligence as to what we did after defeating Japan and INSISTING they form a new gov't absent ANY connection to Shinto and we should have done the same when we had the opportunity to insist both countries form "Secular" governments.

8 posted on 12/15/2011 5:26:00 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Take up the White Man’s burden—
The savage wars of peace—
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.

Take up the White Man’s burden—
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper—
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.

Take up the White Man’s burden—
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:—
“Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?”


9 posted on 12/15/2011 5:27:20 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Kaslin

Why would anyone ever trust America again? Sad.


10 posted on 12/15/2011 5:29:05 PM PST by rhombus
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To: Kaslin

Let’s see,

9 years trying the help them get their act together.

9 days for the whole thing to come unglued once we leave.

9 months for another 100,000 Iraqis to die.

Priceless


11 posted on 12/15/2011 5:33:50 PM PST by super7man
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To: rhombus
Why would anyone ever trust America again?

That's what they asked when Saigon fell and it fell for much the same reasons.

The same traitorous Liberals pulled the rug out from under our efforts and undermined all our hard won gains and the Communists poured in and took over the place.

The same thing will happen in Iraq.

Color it "gone".

12 posted on 12/15/2011 5:39:14 PM PST by Gritty (America wants the Iraq War stopped and elected the Democratic Party for this purpose-Osama Bin Laden)
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To: Kaslin

We were there for 9 years. It was way past time to say Buh bye. Iraq is going to do what Iraq is going to do. It does not matter if we stayed 10 days or 10 years. They are a bunch of tribal muslims. Iran will grab their oil fields and then they will be a bunch of poor tribal muslims.


13 posted on 12/15/2011 5:40:49 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Gritty

Get ready for Iraqi boat people.


14 posted on 12/15/2011 5:43:13 PM PST by rhombus
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To: rhombus

Indeed why?


15 posted on 12/15/2011 5:43:59 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Hmm that is very interesting


16 posted on 12/15/2011 5:47:38 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Not as bittersweet as pulling out of Iran is gonna be.

But Hey!
Look on the bright side.

After we withdraw from Iran in ten years we will need to conquer Iraq again!


17 posted on 12/15/2011 5:51:30 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Kaslin

We knew it would eventually come to this again.

18 posted on 12/15/2011 5:51:30 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Kaslin

We could have put the Iraq war in the same category as our wars with Germany, Japan, and South Korea but I think it now more properly belongs in the category with Vietnam, Somalia and Haiti. Trust us, we’re here to help. See ya later suckers!


19 posted on 12/15/2011 5:52:53 PM PST by rhombus
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To: Kaslin

20 posted on 12/15/2011 6:00:01 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Obama’s tribe.


21 posted on 12/15/2011 6:03:26 PM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: ohioWfan; NordP; STARWISE; 4integrity; Wolfstar; dinasour; dmd25; DollyCali; Dr. Alex Cross; ...

Someone suffers from BDS and needs help


22 posted on 12/15/2011 6:05:34 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: nkycincinnatikid

I am afraid you could be correct


23 posted on 12/15/2011 6:08:25 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Have you read this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2820552/posts?page=1


24 posted on 12/15/2011 6:11:53 PM PST by ngat
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To: Kaslin

Once again, history will repeat itself. We end the war in Iraq/Vietnam and and within a few years the Islamists/Communists will take over.

We didn’t win in Iraq/Vietnam, we left. If we don’t go to war to defeat the enemy and win it’s a waste of time, money and most importantly our soldiers lives.


25 posted on 12/15/2011 6:37:16 PM PST by rllngrk33 (Things will continue getting worse until January 21, 2013.)
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To: Kaslin
Barry took credit and now when the whole thing crashes down he will not be able to blame Bush and It may even bring down his bid for pResident.
26 posted on 12/15/2011 7:38:54 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Gritty

“The same traitorous Liberals pulled the rug out from under our efforts and undermined all our hard won gains and the Communists poured in and took over the place.”

That deserves an additional comment. Right now, as we speak, the commie butcher Nuon Chea, Pol Pot’s No. 2 man in the Khmer Rouge, is standing trial in Cambodia for crimes against humanity, torture, mass murder and genocide. He and two other mass murders in the Khmer Rouge are charged with murdering 3.3 million Cambodians.

I don’t see this story getting coverage anywhere except Southeast Asia and foriegn editions of the American press.

The Khmer Rouge were the commies American leftists cheered on back in the 1970s. If you run into an American hippy leftist that’s older than 55-years-old, ask the SOB to explain himself concerning his support of mass murdering communism, and then smash him in the mouth.

Thank you.


27 posted on 12/15/2011 8:08:30 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Kaslin
Shouldn't the elected representatives of the Iraqi people have been there to express their personal thanks?

I've concluded that gratitude is not a trait common in Islamic societies. Especially toward Infidels.

28 posted on 12/15/2011 8:19:56 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: sergeantdave
If you run into an American hippy leftist that’s older than 55-years-old, ask the SOB to explain himself concerning his support of mass murdering communism...

I do - and have been doing that since my return from Vietnam in 1969. I find they are mostly abysmally ignorant or willfully stupid. In most cases, their mindset is irrational and impervious to facts.

...and then smash him in the mouth.

I haven't done that (although the temptation has at times been nearly overwhelming) because on occaision I have been able to bring them over to the side of reason. It is usually not a rapid progress but a slow and patient slog to win them over.

Those 10%-15% we win over are worth the cost of not taking out some teeth which badly need rearranging. But, that's my opinion.

29 posted on 12/15/2011 8:48:32 PM PST by Gritty (The US has abandoned its war against Islamic fascism, and cast its lot with the Arabs-Caroline Glick)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

The Kurds and the Sunnis must be united to stop Iran from taking over in Iraq and alQaeda in Syria

By Ted Belman

With the looming American withdrawal from Iraq, Caroline Glick, in Naming things by their name, summarizes America’s failure in the ME and the reasons for it. First and foremost it refuses to name the enemy but rather made war on a tactic. In its desire not to be identified with dictators because they are hated by the people, America helped to bring down allies of the US, Quaddafi and Mubarek (the enemy of my enemy is my friend) and choose instead to align with her enemies, made easier by having not named them.

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/41634


30 posted on 12/16/2011 8:08:23 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Kaslin.
Daily Star

31 posted on 12/16/2011 11:06:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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